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America cannot be saved on a technicality, by birthers or otherwise
SaintGeorgeNews.com ^ | Feb. 13, 2012 | Bryan Hyde

Posted on 02/14/2012 12:51:08 PM PST by Kukai

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1 posted on 02/14/2012 12:51:13 PM PST by Kukai
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The author has chosen to ignore that the real question is whether the “natural born citizen” requirements were met.


2 posted on 02/14/2012 12:54:22 PM PST by NEMDF
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No, the real question is why did a free people willfully elect a communist, muslim, homosexual fascist tyrant upon itself?

Until that question can be answered, no other question even matters.


3 posted on 02/14/2012 12:57:22 PM PST by chris37 (Heartless.)
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To: Kukai

If the “natural born citizen” requirement is considered just a technicality, does that mean the U.S. Constitution just a compendium of technicalities?


4 posted on 02/14/2012 12:57:31 PM PST by USFRIENDINVICTORIA
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demanding that Obama provide his original birth certificate as definitive proof that he was actually born in the U.S. After inexcusable foot-dragging, the Obama administration last April released a copy of the president’s certificate of live birth from the state of Hawaii.

The 2 are NOT the same.

5 posted on 02/14/2012 12:58:17 PM PST by Puppage (You may disagree with what I have to say, but I shall defend to your death my right to say it)
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Yes, yes it does...


6 posted on 02/14/2012 12:58:30 PM PST by GourmetDan (Eccl 10:2 - The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left.)
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To: Kukai
The bitter truth is that Barack Obama’s presidency is a result of, not the cause of, our societal decay.

Blame everyone except the Dem Party Liars. (ie Pelosi et al) The article is saying that societal decay did this. It was Fraud that brought this on. Yes society is decaying, but that did not elect this Quisling.

7 posted on 02/14/2012 1:03:20 PM PST by Texas Fossil (Government, even in its best state is but a necessary evil; in its worst state an intolerable one)
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No, the real question is why did a free people willfully elect a communist, muslim, homosexual fascist tyrant upon itself?

Public schools have been brainwashing children for decades. This is the end result. Astonishingly, from what I've seen, public schools seem to be doubling down....at least the ones that are still open.

8 posted on 02/14/2012 1:03:59 PM PST by ILS21R (Never give up.)
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To: chris37
Cutting, concise, truthful.

You win and thank you for your post.

9 posted on 02/14/2012 1:04:47 PM PST by elkfersupper ( Member of the Original Defiant Class)
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http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2846454/posts

The first “Birther” was a Hillary Clinton activist.

The entire Birther argument requires Judicial Supremacy, in order to win.

Judicial Supremacy is a LIBERAL idea!

10 posted on 02/14/2012 1:28:59 PM PST by Kansas58
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Violating the constitution is a ‘technical problem’?
The dummies still don’t see that this ‘technical problem’ is the cause of an anti-American, anti-constitution, Muslim with dual allegiance attacking USA from within!
This proves the keen insight of our founding fathers when they require ‘natural born citizen’ who has sole allegiance to USA to be our president/VP, to avoid invasion by foreigners (including people with ALLEGIANCE TO OTHER COUNTRIES)!

This is the most basic of the constitutional provision. When such a basic provision is violated, how can we uphold all the other provisions?
All those ills the author refers to come from violating the constitution - gov usurping power from the states and the people, legislating from the bench, taxation without representation, budget not balanced as required by the constitution......

It is true the constitution has been slowly dismantled. Letting a usurper thump his nose at article 2 nbc presidential requirement is the last straw!


11 posted on 02/14/2012 1:38:43 PM PST by chrisnj
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Do you know what you are talking about?

There certainly is ‘judicial supremacy’ going on now on the issue of obama elig - The courts/judges are the ‘supreme’ powers qaushing every legitimate challenge for 4 years!

This manifest ‘judicial supremacy’ surely is a liberal idea!


12 posted on 02/14/2012 1:46:47 PM PST by chrisnj
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Barack Obama is the poster child for exactly what the founding fathers were trying to prevent with the Natural Born Citizen clause.

He has divided loyalties to this country (if any loyalty at all). He bows to foreign leaders, some are our enemies. He thinks the U.S. is a MUSLIM nation. He has absolute contempt for Christians, who by the way founded this country. This IS a CHRISTIAN nation.

He has loyalties to Fascists, Communists, and Islamists. He fills his administration with them and supports them around the world at the expense of our traditional allies, like the UK & Israel.

I will oppose Marco Rubio and Bobby Jindal as fervently as I have Obama, if they run for president or vice president.

THE CONSTITUTION MATTERS.

13 posted on 02/14/2012 1:54:30 PM PST by faucetman ( Just the facts, ma'am, Just the facts)
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To: Kukai
The bitter truth is that Barack Obama’s presidency is a result of, not the cause of, our societal decay.

Can't really contradict that; can only add that it has accelerated the decay.

14 posted on 02/14/2012 2:25:12 PM PST by JimRed (Excising a cancer before it kills us waters the Tree of Liberty! TERM LIMITS, NOW AND FOREVER!)
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Actually, NO!

The Courts, in the birther cases, are NOT willing to over rule Congress (for a change!)

Congress had full Constitutional authority to determine the eligibility of John McCain.

Congress has full Constitutional authority to determine the eligibility of Obama.

Congress determined that BOTH were eligible!

Bithers are asking the Courts to interfere -— Birthers are therefore supporting the idea of Judicial Supremacy, which is a very liberal idea. Do not forget that the first “Birthers” were PUMA Clinton activists!

BTW, Congress HAS restricted the authority of the Courts, in the past:

http://www.eagleforum.org/column/2006/jan06/06-01-25.html

15 posted on 02/14/2012 2:42:15 PM PST by Kansas58
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No, the real question is why did a free people willfully elect a communist, muslim, homosexual fascist tyrant upon itself?

Because a significant fraction of the population is morally corrupt, miseducated, and either unable or unwilling to bear the strain of original, independent thought.

It's really quite as simple as that.

Even if 0bama had been proven in 2008 to be a native Kenyan, removing him from the election would simply have cleared the decks for Her Royal Thighness, President Hildebeeste I.

And you better believe she would have been just as bad as Zero has proven to be.

16 posted on 02/14/2012 2:49:51 PM PST by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilization is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
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Those who are serious about correcting America’s problems would be best served to begin by fixing the person we see in the mirror establishing a new country!
17 posted on 02/14/2012 2:52:41 PM PST by varon (Allegiance to the Constitution, always. Allegiance to a party, never!)
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That and the overwhelming fact tha some 53% of us voted to fundamentally transform America. Obama wasn’t shy about telling us what he wanted to do and a good portion of the dissatisfaction with him is that he hasn’t gone far enough.

Sobering at the least.


18 posted on 02/14/2012 2:54:49 PM PST by JimSEA
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To: Kansas58

Congress has NOT openly, bindingly ‘determined’ on constitutional eligibility of a presidential candidate!

Congress has the authority to clarify what exactly natural born citizen is as intended by the founding fathers, but they have not done a thing about it!

Congress has tried many times to change the definition of nbc but failed every time!

A few senators, including obama and hillary, passed a non-binding resolution 511 in April 2007 to ‘resolve’ that McCain is a nbc elig to be president, because he was born overseas to 2 USA citizen parentS! But that does not overrule the original definition of nbc as intended by the founders.

Congress has NOT addressed the obama elig question at all, much less ‘determined’ that obama is elig!! Get the facts!

On the contrary, the Dems passed resolution 511 for McCain to compromise him and the Republicans so they are not at liberty to challenge obama’s elig!

The supreme court is taking a pass (Clarence Thomas hinted so) on this issue, not because they are not willing to overrule congress (there is nothing to overrule!) , but because they would rather not be responsible for ousting obama!

GET THE FACTS!


19 posted on 02/14/2012 3:24:04 PM PST by chrisnj
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To: Kukai

The article’s author brings forth a false premise presuming that the court case in GA would result in removing Obama from office. The case was/is about his eligibility to appear on the 2012 GA election ballot. The states and not the federal government are the final arbiters of who may be included on their ballots. (He could, in theory, be removed from office, but that’s not likely to happen, even if he were found to not be an NBC.)

As for the “where would that leave us” question, I submit that a free-market approach to energy, education and many other areas, as espoused by many here on FR, would go a long way toward eliminating debt and lifting us out of our economic malaise.


20 posted on 02/14/2012 3:52:06 PM PST by RightSight
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