Talk about a massive case of herp-derp!
Posted on 02/15/2012 12:10:39 PM PST by NoPinkos
...Jonah Goldberg explained that Mike Huckabee's brand of conservatism was inconsistent with traditional conservatism, in that the former Arkansas Governor believes that government exists, not to protect individual liberty, but to make people live moral lives in accordance with his personal beliefs....
While Rick Santorum doesn't have the record of supporting tax hikes that Tax Hike Mike had or some of the other points listed above--though some of the do apply, he certainly has a record of backing certain social policies based upon the notion that government exists to ensure a certain behavior from its citizens....
On the fiscal and regulatory side of the equation, Santorum doesn't even come close to having a record worthy of Tea Party support....
The only two conclusions I can draw from this is that the anti-Romney faction in the Republican electorate will so blindly follow whoever is deemed to be their "guy" at the moment that they don't care about his economic statism....
The other is that the Tea Party movement has been completely overrun with social conservatives. If that's the case, Republicans will lose this election, and lose it badly. That's not to say that social conservatives can't be fiscal conservatives, rather fiscal issues must come first in this election....
Santorum's social conservatism is going to turn away independent voters. For example, his strange rant against contraceptives is going to sound nutty and unserious to many on-the-fence voters in swing states. And national polls show that voters are now supportive of gay marriage, which Santorum vigoriously opposes.
This is the bed that Republicans have made. The idea that Santorum would be any better on fiscal issues than Romney is absurd. They're both fiscal moderates that aren't going to change the culture of waste in Washington.
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Talk about a massive case of herp-derp!
You do know that Ronald Reagan signed many bills into law were any of those things in them?
Would anyone have heard him if he did? They barely gave him a question at the debates.
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Santorum:
“This whole idea of personal autonomy, well I don’t think most conservatives hold that point of view. Some do. They have this idea that people should be left alone, be able to do whatever they want to do, government should keep our taxes down and keep our regulations low, that we shouldn’t get involved in the bedroom, we shouldn’t get involved in cultural issues. You know, people should do whatever they want. Well, that is not how traditional conservatives view the world and I think most conservatives understand that individuals can’t go it alone.”
Reagan:
"I'm convinced that today the majority of Americans want what those first Americans wanted: A better life for themselves and their children; a minimum of government authority. Very simply, they want to be left alone in peace and safety to take care of the family by earning an honest dollar and putting away some savings. This may not sound too exciting, but there is something magnificent about it. On the farm, on the street corner, in the factory and in the kitchen, millions of us ask nothing more, but certainly nothing less than to live our own lives according to our values — at peace with ourselves, our neighbors and the world.
If you really wanted to know you would, you post this as propaganda. He has given his reasoning many times, either accept his reasoning or not, but don't say you don't understand it.
Sort of like, I really like Sara Palin but.......
Yes they do, at least politically they do.Jim Demint rides the same wagon, how effective is he? Oh he is the new leader right? Have you noticed how Harry controls the Senate?
Unlike the current occupier.
Okay... okay.
:-P
More to the point, what kind of conservative goes looking for pictures like that?
You get this from DU? That is pure unadulterated cr@p. He lost but not for the reasons you state. Bush and Tokyo Rove delivers the biggest smack down to the party in my memory, Santorum was among them. Magic bullet idiot endorsement didn't help either.
Great Reagan quote.
Comparing the two quotes breaks Santorum’s “conservative” bubble.
Santorum is simply a statist, both welfare and nanny.
You are correct. This is a typical DU smear. She is quoting a CREW report from 2006...CREW, of course is a Soros funded group.
Ignore all responses from that poster. A clear troll.
You remain ignorant as to what these unions do with their ratings if you want to - and clearly you do. Cherry pick the years if your want to, and you clearly do.
Rick voted for increases in the minimum wage and for your tax dollars to go to Pennsylvania union fire fighters among other things. Among Republicans, he is one of the biggest pro union voters anywhere.
Well yes, we have. Have you heard one threat to filibuster every bill that comes up, after Obozo makes recess appointment when they are not in recess? McConnel is worse than Dingy Harry, because he pretends to be Conservative, Harry doesn't.
Sarah Palin called out the crooks in congress and soundly threatened them if they did not let the tea party candidates we send them, have a seat at the committees table. The old Bozo's collectively plotted to marginalize the tea party candidates before they even got there, Dick Armey being one of the worst, along with Mitch and crybaby Boehner.
Are you a mind reader now?
Cherry pick the years if your want to, and you clearly do.
No, I just picked the most recent years that were listed on the website I was on. The ratings I listed were not outliers but were consistent with how we was rated in the past.
Any article pointing out negatives of either Gingrich or Santorum is by definition a part of the Romney Slime Machine.
Santorum has a lifetime American Conservative Union (ACU) rating of 80+.
He did not get that being a fiscal liberal.
The only way people can injure either Gingrich or Santorum is by cherry-picking those issues when they voted contrary to the conservative dogma.
However, a lot of those supposed indiscretions are pulled out of omnibus type bills that include other items very important to the nation.
If you vote to fund troops, but someone has tacked onerous legislation onto that funding, and they also have the power to prevent troop funding from passing, then you sometimes decide to fund the troops and damn the other stuff you wouldn’t normally vote for.
That is one reason the problem with legislation is the who omnibus idea to begin with. All bills should be required by law to be single focused.
Well they chart a lot of things that have nothing to do with labor law, because Santorum is pro minimum wage, anti right to work, and got earmarks for PA union industries in the past.
I am particularly sensitive to labor unions - which is one reason I am so adamantly opposed to Santorum. I’ll vote for him in the general but he is not even as conservative as GWB and that’s a friggin shame.
If we were, I would probably be a Santorum supporter. I don’t say this stuff because I am anti Santorum — I am anti Santorum because of this stuff!
(well that, and I don’t think his personae will sell at all in the general election....)
They act like Santorum is fiscally liberal because they fear his deep social conservatism. They are more comfortable with those who talk conservative but live like liberals (i.e. libertines like Gingrich) than they are with candidates who live a conservative life. Talking the talk is more important than walking the walk.
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