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Five Reasons to Oppose Gay Marriage
Townhall.com ^ | February 17, 2012 | John Hawkins

Posted on 02/17/2012 4:43:39 AM PST by Kaslin

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1 posted on 02/17/2012 4:43:43 AM PST by Kaslin
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To: Kaslin

Simple. God’s way or mans way.


2 posted on 02/17/2012 4:51:50 AM PST by FES0844
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To: Kaslin

OK...now give me five good reasons against gay marriage without referring to god, religion, or the bible directly or indirectly.


3 posted on 02/17/2012 5:02:37 AM PST by Logic n' Reason ("To keep you is no benefit; to kill you is no loss.")
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To: Kaslin

Excellent


4 posted on 02/17/2012 5:13:55 AM PST by frogjerk (OBAMA NOV 2012 = HORSEMEAT)
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To: Mrs. Frogjerk

Pingage...


5 posted on 02/17/2012 5:16:36 AM PST by frogjerk (OBAMA NOV 2012 = HORSEMEAT)
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To: Logic n' Reason
How about AIDS.
Confused children who have two mommy's or daddy's.
Our anatomy is not designed to accommodate same sex, sex.
I'm sure that there are plenty more, but for me God's reasons are enough.
6 posted on 02/17/2012 5:21:17 AM PST by Coldwater Creek (He who dwells in the shelter of the Most High will rest in the shadow of the Almighty Psalm 91:)
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To: Kaslin
To accommodate gay marriage, the whole meaning of marriage has to be warped and twisted. The religious content has to be taken out and marriage has to become just one more reason to file paperwork with the government

Libertarians take notice.

7 posted on 02/17/2012 5:26:29 AM PST by frogjerk (OBAMA NOV 2012 = HORSEMEAT)
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To: Logic n' Reason

It is against the natural law. It is against biology.


8 posted on 02/17/2012 5:30:00 AM PST by frogjerk (OBAMA NOV 2012 = HORSEMEAT)
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To: Coldwater Creek
How about AIDS?
AIDS has spread very well into the heterosexual community as well; it is most definitely as "uni-sex" killer. Further, a monogamous union between two of the same sex has little chance of catching or spreading this virus. And let's not dismiss two women from the definition of "gay marriage"!

Confused children who have two mommy's or daddy's.
OK...that's one.

Our anatomy is not designed to accommodate same sex, sex.
This is an opinion, not a fact. Our human anatomy is far more versatile and agile than you give it credit for being.

I'm sure that there are plenty more, but for me God's reasons are enough.
Unfortunately, in your response, you've only provided one reason "against" gay marriage. Not homosexuality in general - just gay marriage.

And using god as a reason simply does not make an argument. However, if it suffices for you - that should be enough - for you.
Just don't try to foist your belief system on those who do not believe as you do. You're likely to run into some very stiff opposition!

9 posted on 02/17/2012 5:30:29 AM PST by Logic n' Reason ("To keep you is no benefit; to kill you is no loss.")
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To: Kaslin

Sadly I am more and more convinced that we are losing this battle.
The end of DADT will accelerate this progressive movement.

How did we end up with a generation of young adults that see homosexuality as just another race or sex?


10 posted on 02/17/2012 5:33:30 AM PST by sickoflibs (You MUST support the lesser of two RINOs or we all die!)
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To: Kaslin
 
"I KNOW BUT ONE CODE OF MORALITY FOR MEN WHETHER ACTING SINGLY OR COLLECTIVELY"
--Thomas Jefferson
 
Got Natural Law?
 
 
Sex, Evolution and Behavior
By Martin Daly and Margo Wilson
 
 
Got Socio-Biological Fitness?
 
 "Gay" penguins don't - not even in the San Francisco zoo
http://www.google.com/#sclient=psy-ab&hl=en&source=hp&q=San+Francisco+gay+penguins
 
FAIL.

11 posted on 02/17/2012 5:34:31 AM PST by LomanBill (Animals! The DemocRats blew up the windmill with an Acorn!)
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To: frogjerk
It is against the natural law.
And specifically, what "natural law" might that be? Are you applying this "natural law" to just humans, or to non-humans (animals, insects) as well? And are you referring to "gay marriage" or homosexuality?

It is against biology.
What is "it"? Are you referring to "gay marriage" or homosexuality? If you are referring to pro-creation, then I would suggest there are huge numbers of parentless children strewn about just begging for a comforting home.

12 posted on 02/17/2012 5:35:50 AM PST by Logic n' Reason ("To keep you is no benefit; to kill you is no loss.")
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To: sickoflibs
Q:  How did we end up with a generation of young adults that see homosexuality as just another race or sex?
A:
"According to my opinion, and the opinions of many defectors of my caliber, only about 15% of time, money, and manpower is spent on espionage as such. The other 85% is a slow process which we call either ideological subversion, active measures, or psychological warfare. What it basically means is: to change the perception of reality of every American that despite of the abundance of information no one is able to come to sensible conclusions in the interest of defending themselves, their families, their community, and their country.
 
It's a great brainwashing process which goes very slow and is divided into four basic stages.
 
The first stage being "demoralization". It takes from 15 to 20 years to demoralize a nation. Why that many years? Because this is the minimum number of years required to educate one generation of students in the country of your enemy exposed to the ideology of [their] enemy. In other words, Marxism-Leninism ideology is being pumped into the soft heads of at least 3 generation of American students without being challenged or counterbalanced by the basic values of Americanism; American patriotism.  "
--KGB Defector Yuri Bezmenov
--Soviet Subversion of the Free Press (Ideological subversion, Destabilization, CRISIS - and the KGB)
 
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2095202/posts
 
 

13 posted on 02/17/2012 5:36:30 AM PST by LomanBill (Animals! The DemocRats blew up the windmill with an Acorn!)
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To: Logic n' Reason
From Commentaries on the Laws of England by William Blackstone. The standard legal textbook (along with Edward Cokes Reports) in the United States up until at least the era of Lincoln.

Our law considers marriage in no other light than as a civil contract (not a right). . . . The duty of parents to provide for the maintenance of their children is a principle of natural law; an obligation, laid on them not only by nature herself, but by their proper act, in bringing them into the world: for they would be in the highest manner injurious to their issue, if they only gave the children life, that they might afterwards see them perish. . . And thus the children will have a perfect right of receiving maintenance from their parents. And the president Montesquieu has a very just observation upon this head: that the establishment of marriage in all civilized states is built on this natural obligation of the father to provide for his children; for that ascertains and makes known the person who is bound to fulfill this obligation: whereas, in promiscuous and illicit conjunctions, the father is unknown; and the mother finds a thousand obstacles in her way.

and I would add that fellow citizens, as a consequence, must be deprived of the natural right to the fruit of their own labor to provide maintenance for the child.

Governments are instituted to protect the natural rights of citizens (Declaration of Independence). Civil marriage is a contract that delegates that responsibility (for the child) to the parents who created the child. A child has a natural right to a mother and a father. Civil marriage insures that right. It requires parents to care for children they create thereby protecting the natural right of other citizens.

Gay marriage cannot produce children. What they do or how they live there lives is not a civil concern. If there are impediments to there pursuit of happiness, they should be removed.

14 posted on 02/17/2012 5:39:15 AM PST by ALPAPilot
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To: sickoflibs

Q: How did we end up with a generation of young adults that see homosexuality as just another race or sex?

A:

Don't need no Weatherman to see which way the wind blws.

 
"Behind the Violence, Says Jane Alpert, Was Sex"

--November 09, 1981--
"The leaders of the Weather Underground, she believes, followed a similar pattern of constantly shifting sexual alliances..."

http://www.people.com/people/archive/article/0,,20080637,00.html

"He [Bill Ayers] also writes about the Weathermen's sexual experimentation as they tried to 'smash monogamy.' The Weathermen were 'an army of lovers,' he says, and describes having had different sexual partners, including his best male friend."

Source: New York Times, September 11, 2001: "No Regrets for a Love Of Explosives; In a Memoir of Sorts, a War Protester Talks of Life With the Weathermen"
http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9F02E1DE1438F932A2575AC0A9679C8B63&sec=&spon=&pagewanted=1

"...the Weathermen, when not engaged in group sex, committed such revolutionary acts as parading with a Viet Cong flag through a local park on Independence Day and spray-painting the walls of a high school with the slogans, "Off the Pigs," "Viet Cong Will Win," and "F#$k U.S. Imperialism."..."

Campus Wars: The Peace Movement At American State Universities in the Vietnam Era

 

"What happens next bears watching closely, as does the response of the president, ex-Speaker Pelosi, and others on the left.  Encouraged by leftists in the Democratic Party and funded by left-leaning nonprofit organizations and celebrity contributors, Occupy Wall Street may in time morph into something resembling the radical factions of the late 1960s and 1970s."

http://www.americanthinker.com/2011/10/predicting_the_weatherman.html

The Osawatomie Coincidence

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2818309/posts

 

 

 

15 posted on 02/17/2012 5:39:32 AM PST by LomanBill (Animals! The DemocRats blew up the windmill with an Acorn!)
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To: FES0844

My answer is God’s way


16 posted on 02/17/2012 5:40:58 AM PST by Kaslin (Acronym for OBAMA: One Big Ass Mistake America)
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To: Logic n' Reason
OK...now give me five good reasons against gay marriage without referring to god, religion, or the bible directly or indirectly.

Well, you could google "five reasons against gay marriage secular view: and find some for yourself. Here's one article: A Secular Case Against Gay Marriage?

Here are there highlights....go to the article to read their logic/justification.

(1) Anti-Minoritarianism. The majority has rights, too..........

(2) The social recognition of committed heterosexual bonding has been a constant for thousands of years.........

(3) There really is a slippery slope here. Once marriage has been redefined to include homosexual pairings, what grounds will there be to oppose futher redefinition —

(4) If you have a cognitively-challenged underclass, as every large nation has, you need some anchoring institutions for them to aspire to; and those institutions should have some continuity and stability. ........

(5) Human nature exists, and has fixed characteristics. We are not infinitely malleable. ..........

(6) There is a thinness in the arguments for gay marriage that leaves one thinking the proponents are not so much for something as against something. How many times have you heard that gay marriage is necessary so that gay people will not be hindered in visiting a hospitalized partner? .........
17 posted on 02/17/2012 5:41:06 AM PST by Girlene
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To: Logic n' Reason; frogjerk

>>And specifically, what “natural law” might that be?

The law that says that when cultures “normalize” behavior that reduces their socio-biological fitness, they FAIL to compete with more reproductively fit cultures.

Simple.


18 posted on 02/17/2012 5:43:03 AM PST by LomanBill (Animals! The DemocRats blew up the windmill with an Acorn!)
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To: Kaslin
Yea, but gay divorce court would be really funny.

Just a joke, lighten up.

Here is a reason I give to my gay friends- Do you really want big brother having a list of who all is gay? Do you want to be on some government's list? What happens if by some weird twist of fate, you get some Fred Phelps type person in charge?

19 posted on 02/17/2012 5:47:36 AM PST by mnehring
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To: LomanBill

I, for one, will refuse to give up the biblical worldview just because a fool doesn’t recognize its authority.

What the anti-theists refer to as “natural law” is simply the way the Creator made things and how He tells us is best to live in the reality He created.

And, rather than just guess, I will look to the special revelation He has given us.


20 posted on 02/17/2012 5:49:44 AM PST by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter knows whom he's working for)
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