Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

To: KrisKrinkle
I infer that you don’t think it’s a contribution to try to point out weaknesses in your position, thus giving you an opportunity to strengthen it.

Trying to point out weakness in an established fact with nothing more than opinion is an 'opportunity' based on a fallacious argument.

A historically recognized legal work shows the States do have and always have had the ability to leave the Compact at will.

-----

Arguably, by their voluntary acts they prohibited themselves from violating that to which they bound themselves.

LOL! Such twisted logic to try to argue against such a simple concept.

“Each State...is considered as a sovereign body independent of all others, and only to be bound by its own voluntary act.”

If a State is bound by its own voluntary act, it can be unbound by it.

Otherwise, the association is no longer 'voluntary', but compulsory.

-----

The powers delegated by the proposed Constitution to the federal government, are few and defined. Those which are to remain in the State governments are numerous and indefinite. The former will be exercised principally on external objects, as war, peace, negotiation, and foreign commerce; with which last the power of taxation will, for the most part, be connected. The powers reserved to the several States will extend to all the objects which, in the ordinary course of affairs, concern the lives, liberties, and properties of the people, and the internal order, improvement, and prosperity of the State.
The Federalist No. 45 January 1788
[James Madison]

197 posted on 02/20/2012 3:51:47 PM PST by MamaTexan (I am a ~Person~ as created by the Law of Nature, not a 'person' as created by the laws of Man)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 191 | View Replies ]


To: MamaTexan

“Trying to point out weakness in an established fact...”

We disagree that your position is the same as an established fact.

“A historically recognized legal work shows the States do have and always have had the ability to leave the Compact at will.”

That contains the assumption the point in contention is true.

“If a State is bound by its own voluntary act, it can be unbound by it.”

Do your voluntary acts mean nothing? Does your voluntary word, promise or agreement mean nothing? If you habitually voluntarily unbind yourself from them at whim, then they don’t.

How does that work when you sign a contract or other legal paper? If you were about to take the witness stand in court and you voluntarily took the oath to tell the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth do you think you could voluntarily unbind yourself from that oath as soon as you sat down? Do you think nothing could happen if you did so?

“Otherwise, the association is no longer ‘voluntary’, but compulsory.”

Well, maybe yes. When you break a contract made voluntarily, some sort of compulsion may be in order.


201 posted on 02/20/2012 4:33:29 PM PST by KrisKrinkle (Blessed be those who know the depth and breadth of their ignorance. Cursed be those who don't.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 197 | View Replies ]

Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article


FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson