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Colleges Worry That Court Could Make Diversity Harder to Maintain
New York Times ^ | February 21, 2012 | TAMAR LEWIN

Posted on 02/21/2012 6:54:26 PM PST by reaganaut1

The news that the Supreme Court is revisiting the use of race as a factor in admissions decisions, just nine years after upholding it in a University of Michigan case, has admissions officials worried about maintaining diversity and confounded that the question is being reconsidered so soon.

“Nine years, when you’re talking about a decision of this magnitude, it really took me aback,” said Tom Parker, the dean of admissions at Amherst College. “What happens with the next president, the next Supreme Court appointee? Do we revisit it again, so that higher education is zigging and zagging? If the court says that any consideration of race whatsoever is prohibited, then we’re in a real pickle. Bright kids have no interest in homogeneity. They find it creepy.”

While a handful of states have laws banning affirmative action, most colleges and universities seeking a diverse student body do consider race in admissions, said Ada Meloy, general counsel of the American Council on Education.

“You can’t give extra points or say you’re looking for three more black students,” she said. “That would be dangerous. But reviewing the entirety of an application, colleges and universities that use holistic admissions talk about, ‘Here’s this person, from this part of the country, who went to this kind of high school, is of this ethnicity and would bring these qualities.’ ”

And if they could no longer be allowed to do that, admissions officials say, it would be impossible to maintain their current level of diversity.

“We do focus on socioeconomic status and other factors, and they’re helpful, but without race-conscious admissions, I don’t think we could get the same results,” said Stephen Farmer, vice provost at the University of North Carolina, Chapel Hill.

(Excerpt) Read more at nytimes.com ...


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To: formosa

I like your idea!


21 posted on 02/21/2012 8:29:02 PM PST by Netizen (Path to citizenship = Scamnesty. If you give it away, more will come. Who's pilfering your wallet?)
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22 posted on 02/21/2012 8:30:55 PM PST by musicman (Until I see the REAL Long Form Vault BC, he's just "PRES__ENT" Obama = Without "ID")
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To: nathanbedford

“The essential truth of Nathan Bedford’s first maximum of American politics (all politics in America is not local but ultimately racial) is confirmed by this article.”

I can’t argue with this maxim.

But - if true - what does this portend for the future?

And, how much longer before the boiling point is reached?


23 posted on 02/21/2012 8:39:47 PM PST by Road Glide
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To: reaganaut1
If the universities are prohibited from using race as a factor and the percentage of black students goes down, will they then conclude that America's High Schools are shortchanging minority students?

NAH! It's NEVER the fault of the Educrats. They would be more likely to find minority students inferior because of their race.

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(Keep the Faith, my friends! We are the saviors of the Republic! Now and Forever!)

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24 posted on 02/21/2012 8:48:24 PM PST by LonePalm (Commander and Chef)
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To: LonePalm
If the universities are prohibited from using race as a factor and the percentage of black students goes down, will they then conclude that America's High Schools are shortchanging minority students?

Not if the other students in the same classes are excelling. It will then be apparent that some students just don't put forth the effort.

25 posted on 02/21/2012 8:59:04 PM PST by Netizen (Path to citizenship = Scamnesty. If you give it away, more will come. Who's pilfering your wallet?)
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To: Road Glide
I don't think there is any question that Obama and Soros are attempting to bring race and class warfare to a boiling point this summer and I believe that is why they set up the Occupy movement.

The news yesterday was that Obama has set up an African Americans for Obama movement. Can you imagine a, "whites for George Bush" movement and the reaction it would have generated?

I think they're looking for violence this summer and will exploit both of these Astroturf movements to gain it.


26 posted on 02/21/2012 9:08:37 PM PST by nathanbedford ("Attack, repeat, attack!" Bull Halsey)
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To: nathanbedford

Maybe that’s what is needed is a ‘whites for X’ movement. They won’t be able to complain without being shown for what they are.


27 posted on 02/21/2012 9:11:49 PM PST by Netizen (Path to citizenship = Scamnesty. If you give it away, more will come. Who's pilfering your wallet?)
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To: Major Matt Mason
I'm sure most kids could care less about homogeneity.

Actually, they couldn't care less about homogeneity.

28 posted on 02/21/2012 9:20:27 PM PST by Isabel C.
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To: reaganaut1
Colleges Worry That Court Could Make Diversity Harder to Maintain

Colleges Worry That Court Could Make Racial Discrimination Harder to Maintain


29 posted on 02/21/2012 10:40:10 PM PST by Iron Munro ("Don't pick a fight with an old man. If he is too old to fight he'll just kill you." John Steinbeck)
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To: reg45

Great point.

Unless you agree that Zimbabwe is the same as Zurich

That God is a fictional character

That a baby isn’t precious

That driving a car or breathing is killing the planet

That murdererers need educations, not retribution

That no person is illegal

That Government should take from one to pay for another

That any criticism of Obama is racially-tinged

That Pat Buchanan is racist, but Rev. Wright and Cornel West are fine for interviews on MSNBC

That people who hunt, fish or fix cars are bitter clingers

That Government produces better medical care than private sector doctors, hospitals and prescriptions

That the Europeans are smarter than Americans

That Islam is merely mis-understood, not dangerous

That cutting off your penis or two men marrying and adopting is normal

That everyone but Christian White Males are victims, even though they are outweighed by 92% of the world

That Hitler was Right Wing

That Mao, Stalin, Che, Castro, Chavez or Pol Pot were for the worker and always left out of history lessons

That Teddy Kennedy was a good man

That the Immigration Reform Act of 1965 was good for the USA

That only cops and military people need guns

That protesting lenders who refeused to make loans to people with no ID or job was bad...but those same lenders were bad for lending the money to people who had no ID or job

That Bill Clinton is a Saint and GW Bush is a demon

That meeting with Hugo Chavez on a private plane to spew hate about the country that made you rich and safe is cool

That skewing the lines between W2 or 1099 income vs. investmement income is really just greedy

That ID for voting is disenfranchising, but using ID for free cell phones and taxpayer handouts is OK

That somehow when a Koran is burned or deal Taliban is pissed on, you never blame Obama, but anything with Haditha was a direct order from GWB

Attacking Libya and Africa is OK, if you are Obama

100 rounds of golf in 4 years is relaxation and OK for Obama, but 20 in 3 is the seed of hatred for Bush.

Obama’s grades - not a question. Bush’s C and D’s were mocked.

ABC, NBC, MSNBC, CBS, CNN, NPR< PBS, LAT, NYT and WaPo are reliable sources of info, Fox is Faux News.

OWS is sympathetic but going to a 1%’er for DNC fundraisers is A-OK.

George Soros and Bill Gates are good for humanity but Abelson and the Koch Bros. are evil.

If you are a Liberal, you place you head in the sand and weep for a dictator like Mao or Stalin to lead you and your tenured professors or OWS fleabag buddies to the promised land.


30 posted on 02/22/2012 12:01:28 AM PST by wac3rd (Somewhere in Hell, Ted Kennedy snickers....)
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