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To: SatinDoll

We reduced Germany and Japan to rubble, and a lot of their people to the graveyards before they turned and were willing to unconditionally surrender and reject Nazism and Imperialism.

We have to do the same to radical Islam for starters...then and only then will they be utterly defeated and then we can talk about what happens to the lands where their Sharia Law and tyranny once ruled...to whom it should belong and who can govern it in peace. But not until then IMHO.


14 posted on 02/23/2012 2:29:45 PM PST by Jeff Head (Liberty is not free. Never has been, never will be. (www.dragonsfuryseries.com))
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To: Jeff Head

Sure. I see your point. But do piracy and terrorism deserve such treatment? If a nuclear attack was inititated against us, yes; I could see reducing a nation to rubble.

I seriously believe that neither Somalia nor Afghanistan have been dealt with properly. Quick, devastating strikes that hurt the populations shielding the pirates/terrorists seems a far more effective and personal means of getting our message of “cease and desist” protecting the criminal element, or your people will suffer greater consequences.

I do not consider 9-11 to have been a minor event. I’m old enough to remember the warnings back in the early 1970s that eventually a devastating terrorist attack would happen on our shores. But I know perceive the attack to be against Western Civilization and not just against the U.S.

Islamic Civilization has been an abject failure compared to the west. It depresses many Muslims, and their first impulse is to destroy us rather than learn how we achieved so much in a short period of time. The ME has been called, by historian, the graveyard of empires. The people who inhabit that region must change and is will have to come from within. I think we should just contain the insanity and no longer do business with the region.

Five hundred years ago the two existing Global Powers were the Ottoman Empire and China’s Ming Dynasty. If someone had spread the belief that in the future millions of people would know and live in unimaginable wealth generated by great industries in what was then a rustic Europe and a wilderness in North America, that someone would have been declared insane.

The Muslims seem headed on a self-destructive trajectory while the Chinese are headed out to space, a bold move, as that nation doesn’t have a history of settling and civilizing frontiers. We do.

I’m not comfortable dealing closely with nations of the ME but China is different. We should look towards building closer commercial relations with China for our mutual benefits. They are intending to weaponize near space. We should work towards creating a relationship where that isn’t necessary.


22 posted on 02/23/2012 3:24:31 PM PST by SatinDoll
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29 posted on 02/23/2012 5:34:17 PM PST by mdel747
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