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Navy Seeking More Minority SEALs
Time Magazine ^ | February 24, 2012 | Mark Thompson

Posted on 02/24/2012 9:15:25 AM PST by lex33

In nature, most seals are black, with relatively few white ones. The Navy's SEALs have exactly the opposite problem -- they're overwhelmingly white, with hardly any blacks. So they're trying to do something about it. It's a fundamental challenge in a democracy with an all-volunteer force: recruits may be drawn from all segments of society, but elite military units -- and none is more elite these days than the SEALs, following their dispatch of Osama bin Laden last May -- tend to draw from small pools of talent. For the SEALs, that includes athletic young men who are smart and good in the water. For whatever reason, that has led to an overwhelmingly white SEAL force. (PHOTOS: Navy SEALs in Action) Say the SEALs: Gaps exist in minority representation in both officer and enlisted ranks for Special Warfare operators. Diverse officers represent only ten percent of the officer pool (for example, African Americans represent less than 2% of SEAL officers). Diverse enlisted SEALs account for less than twenty percent of the total SEAL enlisted population. Naval Special Warfare is committed to fielding a force that represents the demographics of the nation it serves. This contract initiative seeks effective strategies to introduce high potential candidates from diverse backgrounds to the opportunities available in Naval Special Warfare. (PHOTOS: A History of Special Ops) The SEALs are considering hiring help to attract thousands of "minority males in the 16–24 year-old target age range" to become SEALs. "This contract will create a mechanism to enhance Naval Special Warfare's ability to conduct outreach, raise awareness, mentor, and increase self-selection to a career as a SEAL within minority communities," a recently-posted draft contract solicitation says. The Navy isn't seeking only black SEALs: "Challenges for minority recruitment also exist in the Hispanic, Asian Pacific Islander (API), Native

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1 posted on 02/24/2012 9:15:27 AM PST by lex33
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To: lex33

“...Naval Special Warfare is committed to fielding a force that represents the demographics of the nation it serves....”

What, exactly does that mean?

Oh, silly me.

Quotas.


2 posted on 02/24/2012 9:19:00 AM PST by Da Coyote
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To: lex33

In the Special Ops community it doesn’t matter what race you are. The ONLY thing that matters is can you do the job and do it properly.

Who’s “brilliant” idea was this? Whoever it was should be fired.


3 posted on 02/24/2012 9:19:00 AM PST by rfreedom4u (Just because someone thinks it's a good idea doesn't make it legal.)
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To: lex33
The Navy's SEALs have exactly the opposite problem

The only "problem" is why anybody, anywhere, perceives this as a "problem"!

4 posted on 02/24/2012 9:19:06 AM PST by grobdriver (Proud Member, Party Of No! No Socialism - No Fascism - Nobama - No Way!)
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To: lex33

“In nature, most seals are black, with relatively few white ones. The Navy’s SEALs have exactly the opposite problem — they’re overwhelmingly white, with hardly any blacks. “

Ladies and Gentlemen, I give you one of the Top Ten Most Asinine Statements Ever.


5 posted on 02/24/2012 9:19:17 AM PST by Psycho_Bunny (Burning the Quran is a waste of perfectly good fire.)
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To: lex33

I guess we need a quota for brain surgeons as well


6 posted on 02/24/2012 9:20:02 AM PST by Nifster
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To: lex33

quick,someone post a picture of the singer Seal.


7 posted on 02/24/2012 9:20:16 AM PST by supremedoctrine
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To: lex33

Minorities are underreprented for one of two reasons. They choose not to become special operators or they can not meet the requirements. There is no solution to either of those problems without conscription or lowering standards, neither of which should happen. BTW this is not unique to Seal teams, it is common across all infantry MOS’s.


8 posted on 02/24/2012 9:20:50 AM PST by jwalsh07
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To: lex33
Navy, be careful what you wish for. Fort Hood is the price of diversity for diversity's sake.

Here's an idea some crazy guy had in the '60s, just go with the best of the best and pay no attention to race, creed or religion.

9 posted on 02/24/2012 9:20:49 AM PST by Drill Thrawl (Brass, copper, lead. The new precious metals.)
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To: Da Coyote

I’d be willing to bet the LGBT freaks are under-represented in the SEALs as well.....


10 posted on 02/24/2012 9:21:19 AM PST by treetopsandroofs (Had FDR been GOP, there would have been no World Wars, just "The Great War" and "Roosevelt's Wars".)
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To: Psycho_Bunny

Hear hear. I was just about to copy that line and comment on it myself.


11 posted on 02/24/2012 9:21:46 AM PST by jiggyboy (Ten percent of poll respondents are either lying or insane)
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To: lex33

This is like saying too many women give birth and we need to address this issue....bleeeech


12 posted on 02/24/2012 9:22:51 AM PST by Nifster
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To: lex33

Blacks, as a group, just aren’t into swimming...and to be a SEAL..ya gotta LOVE the ocean


13 posted on 02/24/2012 9:23:23 AM PST by ken5050 (The ONLY reason to support Mitt: The Mormon Tabernacle Choir will appear at the WH each Christmas)
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To: lex33

“Naval Special Warfare is committed to fielding a force that represents the demographics of the nation it serves.”

An idiotic reason for hiring people whose mission is mainly to stealthily kill bad guys and break their stuff. My Air Force has the same socially conscious idiots in charge of it. Argh.


14 posted on 02/24/2012 9:23:29 AM PST by jagusafr ("Write in Palin and prepare for war...")
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To: lex33

Imagine if we applied this same logic to the NFL or NBA. It would be called racist....


15 posted on 02/24/2012 9:23:55 AM PST by Old Teufel Hunden
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To: Da Coyote

Can’t wait for the EEOC to weigh in on this. They are probably already “subjected” to sensitivity training. Worse than cold water conditioning!!!!! Or waterboarding. Using more humane methods to off the baddies. War is......defeating the enemy! What fool doesn’t understand that? There is no reasoning with un-reasonable people.


16 posted on 02/24/2012 9:23:55 AM PST by rktman
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To: lex33
"athletic young men who are smart and good in the water."

Just sayin'...
17 posted on 02/24/2012 9:24:18 AM PST by FrankR (You are only enslaved to the extent of the entitlements you receive.)
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To: Psycho_Bunny

Right after the post-Ft. Hood idiotic statement, “Diversity is our strength.”


18 posted on 02/24/2012 9:24:34 AM PST by treetopsandroofs (Had FDR been GOP, there would have been no World Wars, just "The Great War" and "Roosevelt's Wars".)
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To: lex33

I thought all SEALs were green.


19 posted on 02/24/2012 9:24:42 AM PST by mnehring
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To: Psycho_Bunny; Travis McGee
Sometimes you don't have to read past the first line.

These SEALS don't get clubbed, they kick @$$.

20 posted on 02/24/2012 9:25:09 AM PST by HonkyTonkMan
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To: lex33
I guess Cuba Gooding, Jr. wasn't available.


21 posted on 02/24/2012 9:25:20 AM PST by dfwgator (Don't wake up in a roadside ditch. Get rid of Romney.)
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To: lex33

If they lower the standards far enough they should be able to find enough diversity candidates from Compton!


22 posted on 02/24/2012 9:25:35 AM PST by Jack Hydrazine (It's the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine!)
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To: lex33

This is the first step. Second step: Mandate minorities pass BUD/S, resulting in reduced standards from actual reductions to giving them additional tries at passing.

This is exactly why the SEALs needed to remain out of the limelight.


23 posted on 02/24/2012 9:25:40 AM PST by CodeToad (NO TAXATION WITHOUT REPRESENTATION!!!)
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To: lex33

Maybe that guy that quit “Top Shot” last season will re-inlist.


24 posted on 02/24/2012 9:26:14 AM PST by Roccus
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To: treetopsandroofs

Don’t you mean GLBT? Makes it easier to say “gilberts”. (Don’t want to know so don’t tell me.)


25 posted on 02/24/2012 9:26:33 AM PST by rktman
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To: lex33

Ya gotta get ‘em into the Navy for starters. That has always been the branch with the lowest minority enlistment (Army first, then Marines, then A.F., then Navy).


26 posted on 02/24/2012 9:26:50 AM PST by al_c (http://www.blowoutcongress.com)
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To: ken5050

Blacks as a group sink like rocks. I have this from two lifeguards who were constantly pulling blacks fromm the bottom of the pool.


27 posted on 02/24/2012 9:26:54 AM PST by oncebitten (Obama: "A Big Ole’ Hunk of Nothing on Two Thick Slices of Nada.”)
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To: lex33
Challenges for minority recruitment also exist in the Hispanic

Well they could just recruit directly from the Mexican Army, or even the Spanish Army.

After all, why have Americans in the American Army?

It's discrimination, clearly.

28 posted on 02/24/2012 9:27:36 AM PST by Regulator
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To: lex33

Have we ever had a more racist C-in-C?


29 posted on 02/24/2012 9:28:02 AM PST by treetopsandroofs (Had FDR been GOP, there would have been no World Wars, just "The Great War" and "Roosevelt's Wars".)
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To: lex33

Idiots. When the military successfully recruits lots of so-called “minorities” the liberal morons complain that minorities are being disproportionatly “forced” to join the military and risk their lives to earn a living. The horror!


30 posted on 02/24/2012 9:28:02 AM PST by Larry Lucido (My doctor told me to curtail my Walpoling activities.)
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To: lex33

-—...draw from small pools of talent. For the SEALs, that includes athletic young men who are smart and good in the water.-—
And courageous and patriotic.
-—For whatever reason, that has led to an overwhelmingly white SEAL force.-—


31 posted on 02/24/2012 9:29:08 AM PST by running_dog_lackey
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To: supremedoctrine

is he that burnt dude?


32 posted on 02/24/2012 9:29:33 AM PST by uddaudd (7 days - 7 ways a Guero y Guay Lao << >> with a floating, shifting, ever changing persona)
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To: rfreedom4u

Agreed. The entire article is insane. Zero has to directing this.


33 posted on 02/24/2012 9:29:51 AM PST by lex33
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To: Larry Lucido

Dead on. That is what happened in Vietnam. The liberals claimed white kids got college deferments while black kids got drafted, yet, that isn’t what the numbers show. The numbers show blacks were perfectly proportionally drafted as were the whites.


34 posted on 02/24/2012 9:30:08 AM PST by CodeToad (NO TAXATION WITHOUT REPRESENTATION!!!)
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To: rktman

Putting a G in there anywhere is an insult to the BLT.


35 posted on 02/24/2012 9:30:23 AM PST by treetopsandroofs (Had FDR been GOP, there would have been no World Wars, just "The Great War" and "Roosevelt's Wars".)
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To: lex33

Guess the Navy will be lowering some SEAL entrance standards in order to accommodate certain groups. Perhaps a new and secret force is the answer. The SEAL program, as great as it is, has become too open, and now, commercially exploited.


36 posted on 02/24/2012 9:30:32 AM PST by Jukeman (God help us for we are deep in trouble.)
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To: lex33
A backhanded compliment hitpiece on the US Military by the ever foul traitors at Slime Magazine.
37 posted on 02/24/2012 9:31:10 AM PST by Navy Patriot (Join the Democrats, it's not Fascism when WE do it. (plagiarized))
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To: lex33
Racial minorities are also under-represented in all the combat arms, and that is where the SEAL and Special Warfare operatives come from. These guys are double, triple-volunteers and they work their butts off just to get selected for the opportunity to become an operator.

This is a bit like NASCAR trying to get black drivers. There are definitely are black men with the innate talent, but you can't ram them through the process without seriously short-circuiting the overall training criteria.

And here's a key difference. SEALs are supposed to be annonymous. What's the difference (to the general public) if there are few minorities? It only matters that they get the job done. Hollywood can put a few black faces in the movie version. Spike will do it.

38 posted on 02/24/2012 9:31:20 AM PST by Tallguy (It's all 'Fun and Games' until somebody loses an eye!)
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To: rfreedom4u

It was the idea of our pResident and his hangers-on. He stands with blacks, although he is half white; he stands (shall) with Muslims (should the sh!t hit the fan); he is committed to increasing the diversity among government employees; and he is determined to debase the capability of our most elite forces. I am not saying blacks per se couldn’t qualify, but the structure and review apparatus is being set up here to allow unqualified candidates to be approved. It will come as sure as the sun rises in the East.


39 posted on 02/24/2012 9:32:46 AM PST by Gaffer
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To: ken5050
"Blacks, as a group, just aren’t into swimming...and to be a SEAL..ya gotta LOVE the ocean"

That's true. Last summer, my local Y launched a program to try and get more black kids swimming. WHY?? Clearly if they wanted to learn to swim---OR be Navy Seals---they would do it! Why the need to try and force the issue?

40 posted on 02/24/2012 9:33:00 AM PST by CatherineofAragon (I can haz Romney's defeat?)
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To: HonkyTonkMan

Stop clubbing seals.

They smell like fish and never buy drinks.


41 posted on 02/24/2012 9:33:51 AM PST by treetopsandroofs (Had FDR been GOP, there would have been no World Wars, just "The Great War" and "Roosevelt's Wars".)
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To: lex33

I’m going to puke up my lunch.

If there were anything less biased or prejudice that SEAL training, it’s the weather.

In that world, either you are human or you are not. The humans get rotated back into the military from which they came. The rest resume training as SEALs.


42 posted on 02/24/2012 9:33:51 AM PST by Tenacious 1 (With regards to the GOP: I am prodisestablishmentarianistic!)
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To: lex33
For the SEALs, that includes athletic young men who are smart and good in the water. For whatever reason, that has led to an overwhelmingly white SEAL force

Have you ever just come out and said 1+1=2 and then in the very next breath pondered why and/or how adding one thing unto another renders two things?

Any young athletic black man who is smart enough to be a SEAL (I think its 110 ASVAB) can win a full scholarship to practically any university in the country.

43 posted on 02/24/2012 9:34:03 AM PST by douginthearmy (Obamagebra: 1 job + 1 hope + 1 change = 0 jobs + 0 hope)
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To: oncebitten

“Blacks as a group sink like rocks. ... “

Not sure why they sink, but they do. In my boot camp company, we had about 15 black guys to begin. After the swim test, we had 2. The rest were held back and taught to swim.


44 posted on 02/24/2012 9:34:20 AM PST by brownsfan (Aldous Huxley and Mike Judge were right.)
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To: lex33

And the Harlem Globe trotters need more whites.


45 posted on 02/24/2012 9:34:33 AM PST by Wildbill22
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To: lex33

I’m surprised nobody has put together some affirmative action study and grievance about the NBA. That group must be prejudice. Just look at the demographic to prove it.

(sarc)


46 posted on 02/24/2012 9:35:35 AM PST by Tenacious 1 (With regards to the GOP: I am prodisestablishmentarianistic!)
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To: lex33
Well, the handicapped need to be represented.
Not just those lame, but the blind, too.
And how about some illegal aliens. Prison inmates, and French citizens, too.
47 posted on 02/24/2012 9:35:44 AM PST by Psalm 73 ("Gentlemen, you can't fight in here - this is the War Room".)
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To: lex33

While they are at it, I found that quadriplegics and those with mental disabilities are not properly represented.


48 posted on 02/24/2012 9:36:12 AM PST by mnehring
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To: ßuddaßudd

yeah, but I think his facial disfigurement was due to childhood disease.


49 posted on 02/24/2012 9:36:54 AM PST by supremedoctrine
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To: lex33

Affirmative action Seals.


50 posted on 02/24/2012 9:37:30 AM PST by LibWhacker
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