Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

Game official: cougar killing no one's business
San Francisco Chronicle ^ | 2/28/12 | Marisa Lagos

Posted on 02/28/2012 10:53:32 PM PST by SmithL

California Fish and Game Commission President Daniel Richards said Tuesday that there is "zero chance" he will resign over a photograph showing him grinning as he holds up the body of a mountain lion he shot, killed and ate in Idaho recently.

In a letter addressed to Assemblyman Ben Hueso, D-San Diego, one of dozens of public officials who called for Richards' resignation in recent days, Richards blasted lawmakers and others for their criticism of his hunting expedition and mocked their condemnation of the kill.

Richards wrote that he did eat a cougar for dinner, did not use a high-powered rifle and said he has "consistently supported" conservation efforts as a commissioner when they were backed by scientific evidence. He compared his actions to a California official gambling in Nevada.

While it's legal to kill the big cats in Idaho, California has banned the hunting of mountain lions since 1972, and voters have twice renewed that restriction. After the photo surfaced online this week, at least 40 lawmakers and Lt. Gov. Gavin Newsom called for his resignation.

Newsom, in a letter, said the "actions call into question whether you can live up to the calling of your office," and "do not reflect the values of the people of California."

Richards was unapologetic.

"Do you really think a California commissioner is actually obligated to follow California laws across these United States? Really?" Richards wrote on Fish and Game letterhead in a two-page correspondence he also sent to the entire Legislature, the governor, the California secretary of Natural Resources, and members of the Fish and Game Commission.

(Excerpt) Read more at sfgate.com ...


TOPICS: Politics/Elections; US: California; US: Idaho
KEYWORDS: california; cougar; danielrichards; fishandgame; idaho
Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first previous 1-20 ... 61-8081-100101-120121-138 next last
To: DoughtyOne
WTH!!?!?!?

No one has yet said the guy didn't have all the proper tags, license, etc......

81 posted on 02/29/2012 10:19:21 AM PST by Osage Orange (E tan e epi tas)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 31 | View Replies]

To: org.whodat
Keep digging.....

You are border-line....

82 posted on 02/29/2012 10:24:52 AM PST by Osage Orange (E tan e epi tas)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 64 | View Replies]

To: ansel12

Here is what all this is about.

“Escalating a battle between hunters and animal welfare groups — a conflict that could result in major changes to California’s endangered species and hunting policies — 40 Democratic state Assembly members Friday sent a letter to Dan Richards, president of the California Fish and Game Commission, demanding that he resign.”
(snip)
The controversy has prompted an outpouring of support for Richards from hunting and fishing groups, many of which see Richards as the most reliable vote for their issues.
(snip)
The stakes are high. The five-member commission not only decides which species to list as endangered, it also sets policies on everything from hunting to California’s new system of “marine protected areas,” which ban fishing in areas off the coast.
If Richards, who was appointed to the five-member commission by Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger, resigns or is removed from the panel, his replacement would be named by Democratic Gov. Jerry Brown. And that’s a move that for the first time could give the commission a majority of members who tend to support the priorities of environmental groups.
(snip)
“There’s a lot at stake,” said Jennifer Fearing, state director of the Humane Society of the United States.
Gaines, the hunting advocate, agreed.
“We’re very well aware that this is a key seat, as are the animal rights groups,” he said. “There’s only five votes, so if you get three, you win.”

http://www.mercurynews.com/science/ci_20041625?source=pkg


83 posted on 02/29/2012 10:25:47 AM PST by ansel12 (Romney is unquestionably the weakest party front-runner in contemporary political history.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 76 | View Replies]

To: GladesGuru
However, Carrie_Okie is wrong, Wrong, WRONG!

FloriDUH does not just have hybrid pumas, we have both cats and ‘crats from H*ll.

We have a difference on nomenclature. The 'crats to which you refer are rodents.

The only other COUGERS in Floriduh (besides the usual Felix concolor) are the divorced hungries of the New Yawk finanklatura.

84 posted on 02/29/2012 10:25:47 AM PST by Carry_Okie (The RNC would prefer Obama to a conservative nominee.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 73 | View Replies]

To: org.whodat

Post #26 says you’re on drugs - I believe him.


85 posted on 02/29/2012 10:38:06 AM PST by GilesB
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 37 | View Replies]

To: org.whodat

Who “they”? Where do “they” say it? What evidence do “they” have?

This quote from the relevant article:

‘Richards went on. “While I respect our Fish and Game rules and regulations, my 100 percent legal activity outside California, or anyone else’s for that matter, is none of your business.”’

So at this point, without something more, all presented evidence says “LEGAL”


86 posted on 02/29/2012 10:38:24 AM PST by GilesB
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 13 | View Replies]

To: muawiyah

By your measure, anybody who is involved with passing or enforcing anti-gambling laws in any state, is prohibited from going to Las Vegas and gambling, or bringing their winnings back to their home state. PREPOSTEROUS!

Furthermore - The Lt. Gov. has no doubt done that very thing himself, and is a hypocrite. (BTW - the fact that his daddy was a big lion lover has ZERO bearing on the case at hand).


87 posted on 02/29/2012 10:42:56 AM PST by GilesB
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 36 | View Replies]

To: GilesB; org.whodat
You've some explaining to do.....

That seems to be your M.O.

88 posted on 02/29/2012 1:08:45 PM PST by Osage Orange (E tan e epi tas)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 85 | View Replies]

To: Osage Orange

Try reading post nine and hang it in your ear. Is that simple enough for you???


89 posted on 02/29/2012 1:34:22 PM PST by org.whodat
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 88 | View Replies]

To: Osage Orange

Fair enough. I would find it interesting to know how many such proper tags, licenses, etc., this guy has approved in California.


90 posted on 02/29/2012 1:41:33 PM PST by DoughtyOne (Abortion? No. Gov't heath care? No. Gore on warming? No. McCain on immigration? No.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 81 | View Replies]

To: org.whodat
You have problems.....

Just trying to help you....

Seek some.......

91 posted on 02/29/2012 1:45:03 PM PST by Osage Orange (E tan e epi tas)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 89 | View Replies]

To: Osage Orange

Yes, you are proof not all nuts come off of trees.


92 posted on 02/29/2012 1:50:51 PM PST by org.whodat
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 91 | View Replies]

To: DoughtyOne
Probably none...for game that is illegal in CA.

I would assume all legal game tags, and licenses were approved, if that person was legit...and the game was legal in CA...though.

I lived in...and grew up in CA.

I never hunted big game there...Fished, shot doves...that was about it. Never had any problems....

I hunt deer, turkey, pigs, small game and fish here in OK...now.

It's pretty easy, when you follow the rules.

93 posted on 02/29/2012 1:53:47 PM PST by Osage Orange (E tan e epi tas)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 90 | View Replies]

To: org.whodat
You are goofy...

And most serious folks here know it...

Good luck...

94 posted on 02/29/2012 1:58:17 PM PST by Osage Orange (E tan e epi tas)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 92 | View Replies]

To: Osage Orange
Well you only get to speak for you and the mouse in your pocket, and all of those split personality's you carry around. And none of them care what your other personality thinks.
95 posted on 02/29/2012 2:01:47 PM PST by org.whodat
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 94 | View Replies]

To: org.whodat
Ha!!

You continue to make yourself of no regard....here.

No respect, no much of anything....

I wish you well here....

And I will always, as other FReepers do, counter your dumb-ass replies and posts.

96 posted on 02/29/2012 2:08:35 PM PST by Osage Orange (E tan e epi tas)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 95 | View Replies]

To: Osage Orange

Only in your knuckle dragging little mind.


97 posted on 02/29/2012 2:15:59 PM PST by org.whodat
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 96 | View Replies]

To: hattend

when the mountain men went hunting they considered moutain lions a real delicacy...lion hunting isn’t a big sport in numbers but it isn’t the first time i’ve heard they’re good to eat

if you want to hunt them you don’t have to use dogs...you can use a dying rabbit call and they will come in just like coyotes or any other predator to a ‘lunch in distress’ call

but...since they are stalkers par excellence, not only is your shooting problem something low, fast, close to the ground and potentially deadly, you’ve also added the wild card that its probably gotten a lot closer than you intended, and heres your head-on shot

that’s why they call it ‘sport’...lol


98 posted on 02/29/2012 2:16:26 PM PST by AnTiw1
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 51 | View Replies]

To: org.whodat; Georgia Girl 2
I bet you have never been there, I have/?//

That's an example of your goofy posting....

"I have/?//"

I'm not sure in your world that gives you an out...by placing a question mark there...or you are just quite nuts.

But it's all recorded here.....

I could give you more.....no problem.

99 posted on 02/29/2012 2:18:21 PM PST by Osage Orange (E tan e epi tas)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 65 | View Replies]

To: Osage Orange

There are mountain lions in California. Every once in a while you hear of them attacking someone.

Illegal or not, if a Californian launched a hunting party for one that hadn’t caused problems without approval, I’ll bet they’d still be in danger of being taken to task by the state.

The enviro whack-jobs would see to that.

If a species is in danger of becoming extinct, I think it is reasoned to regulate. Beyond that, I want the state as far out of my business as I want the federal government out of it.

I’ve not been exposed to hunting. Fishing yes. I am inclined to be a strong supporter of both. It goes back to our nation’s founding. As long as the kill isn’t for just sport, I support it.

I will tell you that some of the kill-off by our predecessors on U.S. soil, absolutely disgusts me.


100 posted on 02/29/2012 2:18:39 PM PST by DoughtyOne (Abortion? No. Gov't heath care? No. Gore on warming? No. McCain on immigration? No.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 93 | View Replies]


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first previous 1-20 ... 61-8081-100101-120121-138 next last

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson