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I do not know the Michigan laws well enough to say if is likely to win. I hope that he has a good attorney.
1 posted on 02/29/2012 12:23:08 PM PST by marktwain
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To: marktwain

‘gun free’ school zone violation is a Federal beef.


2 posted on 02/29/2012 12:27:27 PM PST by RitchieAprile
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To: marktwain

From Chip Hoyboer in the comments:

“The consensus of whether or not what this man did was legal or not seems to be that it was indeed legal, and I am not qualified enough in the specifics of gun laws to refute anything that has been sited, so I will take the consensus to be true. However, regardless of the legality, I find the ramifications of this act potentially disturbing. As a school teacher, how does one now handle a situation like this? Do I just allow a individual with a gun to stroll through our hallways because he or she has a permit? Does this act change the strategies of those that intend to do harm in a school? Get a permit, have a gun in plain site, walk into the school because there is no legal reason for you not to do this, and then open fire? As a parent, should I feel comfortable with my children being in a school that has a stranger walking the hallways with a unconcealed firearm? As adults we are so quick to site our individual rights of freedom of speech, the right to bear arms, freedom of expression, etc., we forget another cornerstone upon which our country was founded on, and that is our citizens responsibility to the common good. I am disappointed that very little has been mentioned here on the hundreds of children that were involved in this incident. I think we have lost focus on the message this acts sends to the students in a school that this happens to. I support the right of our citizenry to bear arms legally, but I also feel that a citizen who shows such a lack of judgement, responsibility, and common sense to be unworthy of licensing for such a right.”


3 posted on 02/29/2012 12:27:51 PM PST by marktwain
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To: Nicholas

"I just wanted to go home to have lunch"

From your lips to God's ears.


4 posted on 02/29/2012 12:27:57 PM PST by I see my hands (It's time to.. KICK OUT THE JAMS, MOTHER FREEPERS!)
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To: marktwain

In Iowa, you can’t carry any weapon into a school and you can’t bring a gun into a voting place. No if’s, and’s or butt’s.

I believe this guy may be saying goodbye to his right to carry after this.


5 posted on 02/29/2012 12:29:34 PM PST by Jack Burton007 (This is Jack Burton in the Pork Chop Express, and I'm talkin' to whoever's listenin' out there.)
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To: marktwain

Were the police armed when they arrived at the school? If so, how does that not violate the “school code”?

I’m all for individuals controlling their own property rules, but this is public property.


6 posted on 02/29/2012 12:29:45 PM PST by SampleMan (Feral Humans are the refuse of socialism.)
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To: marktwain

I know this guy voted, but was retaliated against for voting and how many others in the gun toting public didn’t vote because they feared intimidation.

I wonder if by placing a polling place in a school where the “right to carry” is presumably denied creates a violation of his rights under the voting act of 1965?

After all one is protected from discrimination because of other Constitutionally protected conditions, i.e. race, color, creed, national origin, and religion. Well the Second Amendment provides protection for the gun carrying class. Isn’t it as good as the first?

Where’s the ACLU?


11 posted on 02/29/2012 12:50:07 PM PST by Steamburg (The contents of your wallet is the only language Politicians understand.)
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To: marktwain
Reading between the lines of this truly rotten news article (what do they teach in J-school these days?), it seems that he left the boundaries of the polling place. A polling place located inside of a school doesn't encompass the whole building.

Even if he can claim a right to enter the polling place so armed (and I don't profess to be knowledgable in the Michigan law) I doubt that right then extends to rest of the building. If he was in an area where voters aren't privileged to enter, then he likely IS in violation.

All in all, he forced a stupid confrontation in order to become a test case. I don't think that it is wise, and I think it hurts the whole 2nd Amendment effort by giving the opposition an argument that the lay person would see as a reason to be distrustful of armed citizens.

12 posted on 02/29/2012 1:15:02 PM PST by SargeK
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School "codes" do not trump individual Rights.

Part of that whole "laws of any State to the contrary notwithstanding" clause in that Constitution thingie...

16 posted on 02/29/2012 1:19:14 PM PST by Dead Corpse (Steampunk- Yesterday's Tomorrow, Today)
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To: marktwain

At least he got to vote first.


20 posted on 02/29/2012 1:25:41 PM PST by NEMDF
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To: marktwain
...to exercise his rights as a licensed firearms holder.
22 posted on 02/29/2012 1:40:18 PM PST by real saxophonist (The fact that you play tuba doesn't make you any less lethal. -USMC bandsman in Iraq)
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To: marktwain
...state school code states that weapons of any kind are not allowed on school property.

What is "state school code"?

27 posted on 02/29/2012 2:51:38 PM PST by School of Rational Thought
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To: marktwain

In Texas it is illegal to carry a firearm into voting precinct regardless of whether one has a concealed carry permit. The only people allowed to carry firearms in a voting location are law enforcement.


28 posted on 02/29/2012 3:22:06 PM PST by Paleo Conservative
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To: marktwain

In Texas it is illegal to carry a firearm into voting precinct regardless of whether one has a concealed carry permit. The only people allowed to carry firearms in a voting location are law enforcement.


29 posted on 02/29/2012 3:22:06 PM PST by Paleo Conservative
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