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To: patlin


Thank you for rephrasing that, now I can respond:

While there is no direct statement in the New Testament against polygamy, there is also no direct reference of any of the Apostles/Disciples engaging in polygamy and all references to the duties of both husbands and wife refer directly to monogamous relationships.

Furthermore, there are several scriptures in the New Testament that equate a monogamous relationship with a good and blameless reputation:

1 Timothy 3:2:

2 A bishop then must be blameless, the husband of one wife, vigilant, sober, of good behaviour, given to hospitality, apt to teach;

1 Timothy 3:12:

12 Let the deacons be the husbands of one wife, ruling their children and their own houses well.

1 Timothy 5:8-10

8 But if any provide not for his own, and specially for those of his own house, he hath denied the faith, and is worse than an infidel.

9 Let not a widow be taken into the number under threescore years old, having been the wife of one man.

10 Well reported of for good works; if she have brought up children, if she have lodged strangers, if she have washed the saints' feet, if she have relieved the afflicted, if she have diligently followed every good work.

Titus 1:6-7

6 If any be blameless, the husband of one wife, having faithful children not accused of riot or unruly.

7 For a bishop must be blameless, as the steward of God; not selfwilled, not soon angry, not given to wine, no striker, not given to filthy lucre;

So the ball is now in your court, show us any scripture in the New Testament that would support polygamy.
129 posted on 03/01/2012 6:42:12 PM PST by SoConPubbie
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To: SoConPubbie
#1: The law of YHVH is not found in the NT although it is quoted a lot. The NT wasn't even Scripture during the time of Christ and thus the only Scripture Jesus, Paul & the others speak of is found in Gen-Mal, but mainly Gen-Dt which we will be judged against.

#2: Had you studied 1st century history, you would know that deacons, bishops, etc were pharisees, scribes, rabbis etc who had formal training and were of the levitical background. They were all very well studied in Torah as Paul was.

#3 Widows, widows under a certain age were the responsibility of the family of the deceased husband and were to be given in marriage in the event the husband died. Only widows with no family, i.e., children and who were past marriage/childbearing age were the responsibility of the church.

Mt 5:17-19 I did not come to destroy the Torah or the Prophets, I cam to fill up with meaning...not one jot or tittle shall be taken away or added to Torah until heaven & earth pass away.

Well, since we are still here, then Torah still stands. I suggest you start in the beginning and not 2/3 of the way through because the last 3rd didn't even exist and there is no new law in it. Nothing new under the sun. Want to follow Christ, then study the Scripture He taught, the Scripture he gave from the beginning as he was there in the beginning(John 1:1-14) and all the way through until he came in the flesh.

Had Jesus even broke the tiniest of Torah instructions, he would have been disqualified as being the Messiah and he certainly did not come to abolish that which was his essence, his being, which is the Torah, the Word of God, the Memra.

In 2 Ti 3:16 Paul says: "All Scripture is given by inspiration of God, & is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instrution in righteousness" Well, since this was merely a letter as are all his other works, Paul wasn't speaking of any NT, when referencing Scripture, Paul was speaking of Gen-Mal.

133 posted on 03/01/2012 7:10:10 PM PST by patlin ("Knowledge is a powerful source that is 2nd to none but God" ConstitutionallySpeaking 2011)
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To: SoConPubbie
Since Messiah only taught the law of his Father YHVH, what was his Father's law

Exo 21:10 “If he takes another wife, her food, her covering, and her marriage rights are not to be diminished.

Gen 29-30, Jacob had many wives

Lev 18-21; Num 30; Dt 25 laws of marriage, sexuality & widows

Yeshua Messiah quotes from these references as well as the apostles. Nothing new under the sun, when they said Scripture, they were mostly talking about Torah, the 1st 5 books also known as Moses.

Act 15:21 “For from ancient generations Mosheh has, in every city, those proclaiming him – being read in the congregations every Sabbath.”

2Co 3:15 But to this day, when Mosheh is being read, a veil lies on their heart. 16 And when one turns to the Master, the veil is taken away. 17 Now YHVH is the Spirit, and where the Spirit of YHVH is, there is freedom.

138 posted on 03/01/2012 7:38:04 PM PST by patlin ("Knowledge is a powerful source that is 2nd to none but God" ConstitutionallySpeaking 2011)
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