Posted on 03/02/2012 11:21:24 PM PST by MadJack
A Pentagon investigation has found five soldiers responsible for burning copies of the Quran, the Muslim holy book, which set off a spate of anti-American protests and violence across Afghanistan, two U.S. military officials said Friday. The officials, who spoke on condition of anonymity because the findings hadn't been released publicly, didn't further identify the soldiers, and there was no indication that the investigation found that they violated military laws. However, the troops could face disciplinary action.
Read more here: http://www.miamiherald.com/2012/03/02/2672326/5-us-soldiers-responsible-in-afghan.html#storylink=cpy
(Excerpt) Read more at miamiherald.com ...
““I wonder what would happen, if all of the military walked off the job over this?”
....and visited the arms rooms/magazines/weapons depots before they left?”
I’d love to see it happen. I have never been so revulsed by any person as this pos, poseur. creepinchief
Oblama is God’s curse on America.
How in the world are the Soldiers to dispose of the Korans once they have been defaced by the detainees?? Are they supposed to leave defiled Korans for other detainees to look at? What if word got out that the US made detainees read defaced Korans?!?
It is the detainees who desecrated the the Korans that are responsible for their ultimate destruction.
Let’s bring them home to a HERO’S welcome!
If these five worked for me, I would not be able to give them medals for it, but I would do everything possible in terms of their evaluations and their assignments and free time to make their lives and their official records as nice as possible. It might not be enough to balance the political actions that will be taken against them, but it’s the least I could do.
Any enlisted man coming to the end of his contract, any officer who’s fulfilled his obligation and anyone who’s eligible to retire needs to think long and hard about what this implies. While I cannot condone desertion, anyone in a position to leave the service should do so. Anyone who remains, or who enlists from this point on, should realize they are utterly expendable for political gain.
Quality means nothing, loyalty means nothing, faithful service means NOTHING. The war is over. We have lost. And our armed forces are being left to the mercies of the merciless. Sauve qui peut.
LOL...citation?
Aren’t you the one making the claim?
You claimed an action was mutinous with no supporting evidence.
I claim otherwise and you demand a citation.
Hilarious.
(a) “Any person subject to this chapter who—
(1) with intent to usurp or override lawful military authority, refuse, in concert with any other person, to obey orders or otherwise do his duty or creates any violence or disturbance is guilty of mutiny;
http://usmilitary.about.com/od/punitivearticles/a/mcm94.htm
“(b) Mutiny by refusing to obey orders or perform duties. Mutiny by refusing to obey orders or perform duties requires collective insubordination and necessarily includes some combination of two or more persons in resisting lawful military authority. This concert of insubordination need not be preconceived, nor is it necessary that the insubordination be active or violent. It may consist simply of a persistent and concerted refusal or omission to obey orders, or to do duty, with an insubordinate intent, that is, with an intent to usurp or override lawful military authority. The intent may be declared in words or inferred from acts, omissions, or surrounding circumstances.”
There needs to be two important intentions by the mutineer.
1)..it must be concerted and persistent in disobeying orders...a one time walk out due to perceived unconstitutional actions by the government wouldn’t meet the definition of persistent.
2) “an intent to usurp or override lawful military authority.” There is no intent by the act described to actually usurp or override lawful military authority. In fact the clear intent of the described act would be to conform government policy to “lawful military authority.”
The intent is not to usurp military authority but to enforce proper Constitutional authority and the act of defiance is not persistent.
A key point is that, in general, the US military is apolitical. It is a fundamental aspect of what makes our armed forces great. Ive served with officers from other countries who cannot get their heads around the fact that (1) our people can vote for whomever they wish without command interference and (2) that the military has no control, direct or indirect, over elections. In the hypothetical presented I believe the action contemplated would meet the legal definition of mutiny. As a commander I would hammer them without mercy, but would likely not prefer charges of mutiny for the first attempt.
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