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What’s ailing the Chevy Volt? (They asked so fire away!)
WASHINGTON POST ^ | 3/4/2012 | Brad Plumer

Posted on 03/04/2012 5:24:47 PM PST by tobyhill

On Friday, GM announced it was halting production of the Chevrolet Volt until April, so as to maintain “proper inventory levels.” Sales of the electric vehicle have been disappointing, with the company missing its target of 10,000 Volts sold last year. Why hasn’t the car caught on?

GM executives have said the recent frenzy over a Volt battery fire in crash tests has hurt sales. On the merits, the fires weren’t a huge concern — the Volts only caught fire days or weeks after extreme lab testing, and according to a government investigation they’re no more likely to catch fire than gas-powered automobiles. Still, panicky headlines ensued. Conservatives started denouncing the company (Rush Limbaugh called GM “a corporation that’s trying to kill its customers”). And GM needed to retrofit new vehicles. Add that up, and GM sold only 603 Volts in January, down from 1,520 in December.

But the scare over batteries is only a partial explanation. After all, Volt sales rebounded in February to 1,023 vehicles sold, and it looks like the fire scare is slowly subsiding. But neither the pre-panic nor post-panic numbers were anywhere near the rate needed to meet GM’s goal of 45,000 Volt deliveries this year.

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KEYWORDS: chevy; gm; volt
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To: tobyhill

$25,000 over any other small car like it, all to go only as far as 1 gallon of gas could take it, and fueled by electricity made from coal power plants they want to shutdown in the first place. Some how they call that “green”. I call it dumber than dirt. Liberals always are.


81 posted on 03/04/2012 6:53:22 PM PST by CodeToad (NO TAXATION WITHOUT REPRESENTATION!!!)
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To: TigersEye
Grill is a hybrid Mack Truck/Cadillac. Corvette front fenders. Hood from Subaru wagon. Rear end from a Ford Pinto. Roof and glass a takeoff of a ZZ Top chopped Ford Coupe. Wheels made to look like warehouse fans.

Really?


82 posted on 03/04/2012 6:53:40 PM PST by nascarnation (DEFEAT BARAQ 2012 DEPORT BARAQ 2013)
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To: Gator113

financed by stolen money=financed ‘with’ stolen money


83 posted on 03/04/2012 6:54:55 PM PST by Gator113 (** President Newt Gingrich-"Our beloved republic deserves nothing less." ~Just livin' life, my way~)
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To: tobyhill
Recharging one might burn down your garage.

After N.C. Fire, Duke Energy Advises Customers to Suspend Use of Electric Car Chargers

84 posted on 03/04/2012 6:57:32 PM PST by Overtaxed
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To: MarkL; Kickass Conservative

http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/2012/03/blind-spot-the-twilight-of-the-volt/#more-433724

...just two months after Volt sales began trickle in, Obama’s Department of Energy released a still-unrepudiated document, claiming that 505,000 Volts would be sold in the US by 2015 (including 120,000 this year). By making the Volt’s unrealistic sales goals the centerpiece of a plan to put a million plug-in-vehicles on the road, the Obama Administration cemented the Volt’s political cross-branding.

When GM continued to revise its 2012 US sales expectations to the recent (and apparently still wildly-unrealistic) 45,000 units, I asked several high-level GM executives why the DOE didn’t adjust its estimates as well. But rather than definitively re-calibrate the DOE’s expectations, they refused to touch the subject. The government, they implied, could believe what it wanted. Having seen its CEO removed by the President, GM’s timid executive culture was resigned to the Volt’s politicized status, and would never make things awkward for its salesman-in-chief. And even now, with production of the Volt halted for the third time, GM continues to play into the Volt’s politicized narrative: does anyone think it is coincidence that The General waited until three days after the Michigan Republican primary (and a bailout-touting Obama speech) to cut Volt production for the third time?...


85 posted on 03/04/2012 6:59:09 PM PST by jjotto ("Ya could look it up!")
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To: tobyhill

Not as many dolts exist to buy O-bum’s Volt as was expected!


86 posted on 03/04/2012 6:59:24 PM PST by Jack Hydrazine (It's the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine!)
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To: ReagansShinyHair
That was the Concept car. Doesn't look a thing like that.
87 posted on 03/04/2012 7:02:44 PM PST by Kickass Conservative (New Tagline under construction, please watch your step.)
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To: tobyhill
Dictatorships tend to have "pet" state-approved automobiles. Hitler built Volkswagens and the Commies Trabants. Now we have the Volt, a symbol of Obama's push for socialist dictator status. We can rename it the Voltswagen.
88 posted on 03/04/2012 7:05:27 PM PST by Bernard Marx
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To: nascarnation
Really.
89 posted on 03/04/2012 7:11:44 PM PST by TigersEye (Life is about choices. Your choices. Make good ones.)
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To: nascarnation
"What is your source for 3 year battery life? "

I didn't say it had a "3 year battery life", I asked what the trade-in value would be on a 3-year-old VOLT with a dead battery.

You probably don't know what a "rhetorical question" is, so I understand your confusion.

So, let's say a five-year-old VOLT with a dead battery...or how about a 10-year-old VOLT with a dead battery. Actually, they would be much older model years, and would bring even less.

I was trying to be as kind as possible to this POS car, but now that you've weilded your hair-splitting knife, we'll look at all scenarios.

Batteries die...they all eventually do. WHENEVER the VOLT battery dies, you're left with an empty, expensive, and useless, car body.

But wait! There's another factor.

If I go to one of the home center stores and buy, say, a new battery for my lawn mower, or even a re-chargeable drill...there is the infamous "disposal fee" for the old battery. Can you imagine what the "disposal fee" will be for a battery the size of the one in the Volt will be? It's pretty complicated just removing the thing, and then you have to pay some sort of EPA fee to have it disposed.

Three year, five year, fifty year...it doesn't matter, and it's not the point.

Missing the point, Missing the Point
90 posted on 03/04/2012 7:16:45 PM PST by FrankR (You are only enslaved to the extent of the entitlements you receive.)
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To: tobyhill

Way too expensive, has about enough range to pickup movies at Redbox but not take them back, and it tends to explode.
Other than that, it’s gold Pony Boy, just like you.


91 posted on 03/04/2012 7:21:12 PM PST by tumblindice (It is the duty of every man, as far as his ability extends, to detect and expose delusion and error.)
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To: tobyhill
The kicker is, this car does not represent any significant advancement in technology over a 1915 electric car.

Yes, a much bigger engineering budget was spent on it. Yes, a lighter, fancier battery chemistry was employed in it. Yes, it meets modern crash-test and other safety standards.

But for all that, I could buy a 1970 Ford Courier, replace the engine with the motor out of an electric forklift, pack the bed with standard-tech lead-acid batteries (with helper springs added to the rear suspension), and probably get comparable performance.

And have maybe a quarter of the cost invested.

92 posted on 03/04/2012 7:26:24 PM PST by Oberon (Big Brutha Be Watchin'.)
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To: truth_seeker

I’m thinking of getting a Leaf after they’ve been out for a while. Even the range on the current model will take care of all of my weekly commuting and errands just using nightly wall plug charges. I drive further out every week or so, and that’s where the gas-powered car comes in.

I’ve run the numbers and it looks equivalent to 100 mpg at today’s gas prices, without the need for oil changes and such.

Now all I need is to buy a PA and go “vroom vroom.”


93 posted on 03/04/2012 7:30:16 PM PST by antiRepublicrat
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To: truth_seeker

But Prius is guaranteed sales from liberals that love everything ugly, and without purpose.

Volt needs to be uglier.


94 posted on 03/04/2012 7:36:14 PM PST by editor-surveyor (No Federal Sales Tax - No Way!)
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To: Seaplaner
the result is a "car" that I would pay money NOT to own.

With the subsidies being dumped on it, you ARE paying money not to own it.

95 posted on 03/04/2012 7:56:21 PM PST by Squawk 8888 (Tories in- now the REAL work begins!)
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To: jjotto
Remarkably similar to production and distribution of products in the old Soviet Union. The government's numbers never quite jibed with reality, but it didn't matter, everyone just "went along with it." Of course, this is the sort of thing that's normal with central planning.

Mark

96 posted on 03/04/2012 7:57:52 PM PST by MarkL (Do I really look like a guy with a plan?)
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To: lurk
Limited range wouldn't be able to get to work and back
my husband work is 25 miles away and if you get stuck in traffic I would think that would use some battery charge as well.

we have no where to plug the battery in at our home our garage is not used for parking it is used for storage and our laundry is in the garage so are we supposed to run a
cord outside to our car parked on the street only to have it used by other people who park in front of our house not a good idea.

In California where I live my electric provider PG&E gives you a baseline allotment each month of your kilowatts ours is 338 and we use about 580 each month. They put you on a tiered system from 100-101% of your baseline, 101-130
130-200% and so on each bracket has a different and higher cost the 100-101 was .12 cents a kwh and the 130-200
was .29 cents a kwh. If I had to charge the battery every day it would add about 200 more kwh to my electri bill each month and I would be in the 300% baseline bracket which is even more than I listed above.\

I don't want a car that I can't drive where I want when I want and I don't want a car which would force me to use public transportation because my car does not work for my needs.

97 posted on 03/04/2012 8:00:21 PM PST by funfan (and his crew)
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To: MarkL

Like Soviet planned industries, GM is already dead, with various subterfuges used to animate the corpse with government subsidies. When they end - and they will - GM will enter conventional bankruptcy.


98 posted on 03/04/2012 8:16:17 PM PST by jjotto ("Ya could look it up!")
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To: lurk

Obama and his friends have a magical idea of science. He probably doesn’t know one end of a test tube from another.


99 posted on 03/04/2012 8:50:05 PM PST by RobbyS (Christus rex.)
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To: Squawk 8888
With the subsidies being dumped on it, you ARE paying money not to own it.

True, that. Also, we are paying some of the costs for the fools who do buy this alleged car.

That stipulated, I would pay even more to not own a Volt. There is no other car away from which I feel this strongly repelled.

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100 posted on 03/04/2012 8:50:42 PM PST by Seaplaner (Never give in. Never give in. Never...except to convictions of honour and good sense. W. Churchill)
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