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Two Sets of GOP Voters: Rationals and Notionals (non-Romneys aren't stupid or irrational...per se)
National Journal ^ | March 6, 2012 | Major Garrett

Posted on 03/06/2012 6:00:39 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife

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1 posted on 03/06/2012 6:00:46 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

I was a “Notional”. I voted for Ross Perot TWICE and put Bill Clinton in the White House. Shame on me.


2 posted on 03/06/2012 6:05:22 AM PST by svxdave (Life is too short to wear a fake Rolex.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
We (Conservatives) are soooooooo screwed.

If I have the resources I'd be looking to sell everything and book a one-way fare to Australia, New Zealand or somewhere else.

Not giving up quite yet, but I fear we will end up with Mittens (another McPain) who will NOT-NEVER take the fight to (or say anything "untoward") against out Fascist, Neo-Commie, Dear Leader and that bodes ill toward a shoo-in for Barry Hussein's re-election.

3 posted on 03/06/2012 6:05:56 AM PST by Conservative Vermont Vet (l)
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I don’t think you did that. I believe that Clinton would have defeated GHWB face to face without “their ross.” Bob Dole acted like a defeated candidate the moment he was nominated: even dissed his own party platform. Then Jack French Kemp committed debate hari kari.


4 posted on 03/06/2012 6:08:39 AM PST by Theodore R. (Santorum has one election day left, and I question whether the American people will respond.)
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To: Conservative Vermont Vet

Conservatives screwed themselves from the start. Romney, with advice from GHWB and Dole, knew that the path to the nomination could easily be obtained by hopeless splits in conservative ranks. Republicans in states like PA, OH, IN, IL, and MI for years have been nominating “moderate” House candidates because of such splits among multiple conservative contenders, and of course only some eight southern states have runoffs to prevent minority nominations.


5 posted on 03/06/2012 6:10:55 AM PST by Theodore R. (Santorum has one election day left, and I question whether the American people will respond.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Rational and notional....Garrett is spinning.

The choice is liberal versus conservative.

Many “republicans” don’t mind voting for a liberal as long as he has an “R” next to his name.

The intelligent ones, however, are conservatives, and they don’t mind voting for a conservative no matter what letter is beside his name.


6 posted on 03/06/2012 6:13:42 AM PST by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Pray Continued Victory for our Troops Still in Afghan!)
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To: svxdave; Conservative Vermont Vet; Theodore R.

We'll have none of this negativity!

7 posted on 03/06/2012 6:16:05 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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Ohio and Tennessee will be interesting as their outcome based upon polling data for the last couple of days indicates no clear cut favorite.

OH has seven polls all ending on Mar. 4 that are essentially within the margin of error between Romney/Santorum. TN has three polls ending Mar. 3/4 that show it basically a three way coin flip.

Tonight will be interesting.....


8 posted on 03/06/2012 6:17:41 AM PST by deport (..............God Bless Texas............)
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There’s nothing “rational” about a conservative accepting Romney, who is not conservative in any way, shape or form.

The problem is that many Republicans are not conservative, either; they’re as much in love with big government and the welfare state as any Dem.

All of the conservatives together would easily overwhelm Romney’s numbers. Even Ron Paul’s followers are pretty conservative in some ways, and if they didn’t have the libertarian option (why was Paul even allowed to run in the GOP?) they’d probably get behind one of the other candidates. Santorum is unfortunately also a nanny-stater, but because he wants the nanny-state to enforce “family values,” this appeals to social conservatives.

And Gingrich probably has the most conservative and practical ideas, but we are now being told that this contest is not about a vision for the future (that would be the notional voter, I guess) but instead finding a way to adapt ourselves to our new totalitarian welfare-state, perhaps simply by putting a new face in charge.

As for Romney’s experience, “business experience,” especially in the financial services industry, has never been considered a qualification for being president. Executive or governing experience, yes; but Romney doesn’t want to mention his years as Governor of MA because he knows that his record reveals him to be exactly what people claim he is, a Mormon Obama.


9 posted on 03/06/2012 6:17:51 AM PST by livius
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The choice is liberal versus conservative.

EXACTLY! That the GOP-e has had to carefully orchestrate the GOP Primary process and are having to work so hard ($$$$$$$) to drag Mitt up to the White House (he can't break 33% most days despite all the help from the MSM, Fox News and Drudge) SHOWS us conservatives are the majority. WE WILL prevail.

10 posted on 03/06/2012 6:19:27 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Would Romney be where he his without overwhelming financial resources, organization, Republican establishment support, and Fox on his side? When most of those advantages are offset in the general, we’ll see how rational the choice was.


11 posted on 03/06/2012 6:21:19 AM PST by throwback ( The object of opening the mind, as of opening the mouth, is to shut it again on something solid.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

There are two republican voters - the insiders and those in thrall to the insiders and there are the voters the insiders hate and trash, insult and lecture at every chance.


12 posted on 03/06/2012 6:22:51 AM PST by DManA
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

What people who plan to vote Mitt, BELIEVE to be true about him, ain’t necessarily so.

This article places everyone and everything into neat piles...unfortunately, no pile has the correct sign on it.

There needs to be a reality check pile.

The Dems/Media look at Romney as a dream GOP candidate.

Santorum as well, but for different reasons.

Newt scares the livin’ daylights out of ‘em.


13 posted on 03/06/2012 6:23:23 AM PST by txrangerette ("HOLD TO THE TRUTH...SPEAK WITHOUT FEAR" - Glenn Beck)
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To: livius; deport

Americans must get up off their butts and care enough to vote.

That 80-90% of eligible voters don’t show up every time they have the opportunity to have a say is appalling.

Newt gets their attention and he took a lot of Romney incoming. He’s still standing and the voters can get out there and vote for liberty or sit home and lose it.


14 posted on 03/06/2012 6:25:44 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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....Newt scares the livin’ daylights out of ‘em.

Yes!

Newt will hold them accountable. He connects with the people. Capital Hill can't bs the public with Newt on the Bully Pulpit.

15 posted on 03/06/2012 6:29:36 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: throwback

Bump!


16 posted on 03/06/2012 6:30:36 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Translation: anti-Romney = Bitter Clinger


17 posted on 03/06/2012 6:33:41 AM PST by rhinohunter (Not voting for RINO Romney...no way...no how)
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To: svxdave
Rational voters have been with Romney from the beginning and remain with him now. For them, he has always looked and acted the most presidential

Sorry. Gingrich consistently looks, acts and speaks the most presidential of any candidate I've seen in years.

18 posted on 03/06/2012 6:43:01 AM PST by Maceman (Liberals' only problem with American slavery is that the slaves were privately owned.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

That is what Reagan did.

You need a conservative, you need a leader, you need a connector to the grass roots.

You need answers and the ability to explain the source of problems and their corrective measures.

Newt has all of this.

Remember Reagan saying the government can’t fix the problem because the government IS the problem.

This next one is even more on point, if possible, than that one:

The most feared words in the English language are, I’m from the government and I’m here to help.


19 posted on 03/06/2012 6:43:54 AM PST by txrangerette ("HOLD TO THE TRUTH...SPEAK WITHOUT FEAR" - Glenn Beck)
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Two comments about that...

Again, what some people BELIEVE about Mitt, ain’t necessarily so.

And, in the minds of many, appearing “presidential” equates to the best looking candidate.


20 posted on 03/06/2012 6:50:23 AM PST by txrangerette ("HOLD TO THE TRUTH...SPEAK WITHOUT FEAR" - Glenn Beck)
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