Posted on 03/08/2012 5:47:11 PM PST by VinL
Rick Santorum may have won more primaries but the Republican National Committee's current delegate count shows former House Speaker Newt Gingrich has more bound delegates than Mr. Santorum in the race for the party's presidential nomination.
Frontrunner Mitt Romney has earned 339 delegates to the August nominating convention in Tampa, Fla., or more than the rest of the field combined, according to a chart the RNC sent to its members on Thursday.
Mr. Gingrich is second with 107 delegates, topping Mr. Santorum's 95 delegates and the 22 delegates pledged to Rep. Ron Paul of Texas.
Winning the nomination will take 1,144 delegates.
Press reports have put Mr. Santorum in second place based on projections about how delegates will be allocated in some of the caucus states where voters have cast their ballots, but where the actual delegates won't be decided until later, at county, district and state conventions.
Delegates have yet to be fully awarded in Iowa, Colorado, North Dakota, Minnesota, Maine and Washington. Mr. Santorum won the first four of those contests, while Mr. Romney won the other two.
Mr. Santorum and Mr. Gingrich are battling to be the conservative alternative to Mr. Romney in the race, and Mr. Santorum says his victories in seven primaries and caucuses gives him a leg up.
Mr. Gingrich, meanwhile, has won just two primaries — Georgia and South Carolina. But both those states bind nearly all their delegates to support the Primary winner.
Meanwhile Mr. Santorum has notched close wins in places such as Oklahoma, where he collected 14 delegates for his victory. But the Sooner State awards its delegates proportionately and so Mr. Romney and Mr. Gingrich earned 13 delegates each, making Mr. Santorum's victory gains him almost no ground on his rivals.
(Excerpt) Read more at washingtontimes.com ...
ONE of these guys has GOT to stand down or we have to choose between Obama and Obama Lite.
Newt winning enough delegates could give him some negotiating power at the convention. The establishment needs to be sent a clear and resounding message. How many times will we be forced to vote for a watered down rino? and to be honest...I also consider RS to be weak on many fiscal and social issues after viewing his record.
Let's make Mitt sweat!
Rewind here. :-)
http://video.foxnews.com/v/1496616401001/newts-last-stand-in-the-south/?playlist_id=87485
YOU are too kind.
Couldn’t care less if you credit me, just get the word out what the facts are, as VinL advanced first.
It was VinL who was the “vanguard” (a nice word, btw) and dared tonight to answer a poster with the truth, and the facts on the ground.
Once he led, I followed suit.
The thesis is pretty simple but it deals with the universe of factors in this election, from my point of view.
Share away, whatever way you wish. You are welcome to clean up my word misfires also! Ha!
Thank you! YOU do plenty! :)
If you apply the williard rule, williard had to carry michigain because he grew up and was born there. Newt was born and grew up in Pa, so he needs to carry it.
I just managed to catch bits and pieces of it... but his message was Endurance, a big-picture, long-road focus. It would make me feel better if I could know how much of this alliance is being stoked behind the scenes. Did you catch it when he said, “it’s all a game” - candidates calling on each other to get out? He is just holding his cards close, not a blink.
Somebody needs to talk Santorum into doing something else, he’s the one basic shot we have at losing this thing in November.
Many of the “unbound” delegates simply aren’t chosen yet, but the process will lead to them being chosen as people project. It’s not like they are free. It’s like their election is next month, but the outcome is already set in stone.
Pretending otherwise is just silly.
Of course, I understand why Gingrich supporters want to play that game — he’s only won two states, and they happen to both be primaries so their assignments are done.
The Gingrich folks were also using the “who got more votes” argument — until the day their candidate stopped being the one with more votes.
If Rick Santorum dropped out, Romney would be our nominee. Gingrich has no chance of capturing more than half of Santorum supporters. If Santorum had dropped out after Newt’s disastrous showing in Florida, Romney would have swept February and the primary season would be over. Newt wasn’t competitive anywhere until Super Tuesday, and then was an also-ran in half the contests.
He could rise again, and if he does, more power to him. But if he needed Santorum to drop out so that people felt forced to support Gingrich, he wasn’t going to win anything anyway.
WOW.
The message was certainly sent but was it received?
Get real? reality has little to do with these threads.
There was a story that was going to be told after Super Tuesday. It was based on Newt sweeping the south, and rising again in places like Ohio and winning Alaska.
Oddly, he fell flat on his face everywhere but Georgia.
But the story must be told anyway. So even though there hasn’t been a SINGLE state where Newt came in 2nd where Santorum’s votes would have put Newt into first place, the Newt folks still argue that Newt’s problem is Santorum.
And even though Newt has a SuperPac that has been given 20 million dollars, they still complain that Newt’s problem is Santorum getting too much of the “conservative money”.
I failed to ping you at 84.
I always forget to do that! When I mention another poster..just,dang!
Wish people would give up that idea ~ it's just so wrong.
Yes. If Rick Santorum cannot win his home state, he probably should quit. If that happens, Romney will be the nominee anyway, whether Rick continues or not.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Republican_Party_%28United_States%29_presidential_primaries,_2012
There are 457 unbound delegates going onto the floor in Tampa by design. They are essentially "the Party".
A candidate has to win only about 685 bound delegates and the party can push them over the top.
However, if you read the article and understand it you'll see it's an imminently fair process and count method.
IF you have 685 and another guy has 604 and another guy has 505...you have a brand new hose race on the convention floor.
Folks, you want D R A M A?
Read about the '76 GOP Primary. It's was the last GOP primary to go to the convention floor.
Millions of us dropped to the floor weeping when it was over.
Or the grand fight on the floor of the Cow Palace in '64 when Goldwater won on the first ballot. There were fist fights in the aisles!!
Now imagine these things in the modern TV/Internet era.
Simply wow.
You must be listening in some alternative reality, because Santorum's campaign has not, and will not, ask Gingrich to quit, and Santorum has publicly stated that he will not call on Gingrich to quit.
The guy who runs a SuperPac supporting Santorum called on Gingrich to quit. That's not part of the Santorum campaign.
In the end they look like political prostitutes.
Some of the votes you noted in your list are certainly questionable. Some of them were just political swapsies.
This is one of the reasons Obama voted "present" so terribly many times!
So true, it's like a cult. These believers think Newt was "attacked" and brought down from his throne. Truth is, Newt attacked and people didn't like the side he showed. But whatever, as long as everyone's happy with Romney who am I to protest.
So true, it's like a cult. These believers think Newt was "attacked" and brought down from his throne. Truth is, Newt attacked and people didn't like the side he showed. But whatever, as long as everyone's happy with Romney who am I to protest.
ABSOLUTELY NOT TRUE!
Please, study the party rules. Look at party history.
They be breakin’ them cellphones on they haids!
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