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Santorum Wins Mississippi and Alabama Primaries [Gingrich Vows To Continue To Tampa]
MSNBC ^ | March 13, 2012 | Michael O'Brien,

Posted on 03/13/2012 8:08:17 PM PDT by Steelfish

Santorum Wins Mississippi and Alabama Primaries

By Michael O'Brien, msnbc.com -- Rick Santorum scored victories in the Mississippi and Alabama primaries on Tuesday, depriving Mitt Romney of a signature win in a conservative stronghold and raising fresh doubts about the viability of Newt Gingrich's campaign.

The former Pennsylvania senator made his case for being the lone, serious Republican challenger to Romney for the remainder of the primary by besting Gingrich in states the former speaker's campaign had previously said were essential to its long-term viability.

“We did it again,” Santorum said to wild applause from supporters in Louisiana, and amid projections by NBC News that he would win both Mississippi and Alabama.

Romney had hoped to score a victory in Mississippi, thereby proving his ability to win a state that composes part of the heart of the modern GOP. But he appeared to be heading to a third-place finish in both contests, failing to even surpass Gingrich, a candidate who’s weathered growing calls to exit the race.

A former governor of Massachusetts, Romney acknowledged these contests were an “away game” for a figure like him, marking an effort to set low expectations for how he might finish in the contests.

John David Mercer / AP Republican presidential candidate, former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney greets supporters who braved the rain during a campaign stop at the Whistle Stop Cafe, Monday, March 12, 2012 in Mobile, Ala.

The Romney campaign was able to pick up delegates in both states, contributing to its march to collect the 1,144 delegates needed to secure the nomination. His campaign was also likely to pick up those crucial delegates in Hawaii's caucuses, which were set to take place overnight. A total of 107 delegates were up for grabs between the three states on Tuesday.

(Excerpt) Read more at nbcpolitics.msnbc.msn.com ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Alabama; US: Mississippi
KEYWORDS: byebyenewt; newt4obama; newt4romney
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To: Steelfish
C’mom. Had it not been for Gingrich, Santorum would have won MI and OH. Gingrich was tossed out of Congress by his own colleagues.

You have no way of knowing that, and indeed, it's likely that a lot of Newt supporters would simply have sat out.

Newt was tossed out of the Speakership (not Congress) by his own colleagues because they didn't like that he wasn;t going along to get along like a RINO. Grief, you people really don't know what you're talking about, do you?

51 posted on 03/13/2012 8:41:46 PM PDT by Yashcheritsiy
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To: Steelfish

It is now the time to ask this question ... why does Newt want Romney nominated? Because he obviously does.

Santorum 2012


52 posted on 03/13/2012 8:41:59 PM PDT by RIghtwardHo
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To: Steelfish

“Gingrich was tossed out of Congress by his own colleagues.”

That is to his credit.


53 posted on 03/13/2012 8:42:18 PM PDT by Psalm 144 ("I think we ought to listen to Alinsky." - Governor G. Romney, father of Bishop Willard M. Romney.)
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To: Steelfish
Gingrich was tossed out of Congress by his own colleagues.

Bunch of Dumbs*&^t GOP-E that had personality problems with Newt and who would rather support lying Democrats like David Bonior and that other Idiot Cooter. We all know Gingrich was innocent and exonerated.

54 posted on 03/13/2012 8:43:04 PM PDT by Red Steel
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To: no dems

Did Newt happen to mention anything about his “Southern Strategy”?


55 posted on 03/13/2012 8:43:10 PM PDT by tennmountainman
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To: Timber Rattler

“The corrupt, decrepit Republican Party needs to be thrown off the cliff. “

Not this cycle, but soon. Very, very soon.


56 posted on 03/13/2012 8:43:38 PM PDT by Psalm 144 ("I think we ought to listen to Alinsky." - Governor G. Romney, father of Bishop Willard M. Romney.)
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To: NavVet

ain’t that a little like peein’ in the wind?


57 posted on 03/13/2012 8:43:57 PM PDT by dps.inspect (the system is rigged...)
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To: Yashcheritsiy

Whistling past the graveyard are we?


58 posted on 03/13/2012 8:45:14 PM PDT by dps.inspect (the system is rigged...)
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To: Yashcheritsiy

Whistling past the graveyard are we?


59 posted on 03/13/2012 8:45:21 PM PDT by dps.inspect (the system is rigged...)
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To: dps.inspect
Whistling past the graveyard are we?

Nope, just thinking in terms of weeks, rather than hours.

60 posted on 03/13/2012 8:46:46 PM PDT by Yashcheritsiy
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To: Yashcheritsiy

Except that your guy has never been ahead of Obama in the polls while Santorum has spent quite a lot of time (including right now) ahead of Obama.


61 posted on 03/13/2012 8:47:26 PM PDT by GulfBreeze (Still a Santorum guy !)
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To: Steelfish

This primary season has been very eye opening for me. Many of those that I felt to be solid Conservatives have been exposed as establishment shills. Pawlenty, Christie, and Snyder are just a few that come to mind and will never get my vote for dog catcher.


62 posted on 03/13/2012 8:49:09 PM PDT by kempster
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To: Yashcheritsiy
Rick Santorum is possibly the only guy running who would likely lose to Obama, even with Obama tanking in his own polls.

That mantra is getting old. If Rick is so awful, if so many people AREN'T going to vote for him, then why is he winning so many states? Obviously he's doing something right. How 'bout Newt drop out sooner rather than later? If staying in until the convention will keep 0 on edge then fine, but he needs to get out of the way of the other conservative running when the time comes.

63 posted on 03/13/2012 8:50:51 PM PDT by madison10
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To: azcap
"the Rats are praying for Santorum."

Of course they are. Can you imagine santorum debating obumber with a hostel msm moderator. You think bush was bad for the conservative cause, this scenario will all but destroy what is left of the conservative movement. The only good news would be that I doubt the rnc could survive a santorum nomination.
64 posted on 03/13/2012 8:50:51 PM PDT by JoSixChip (santorum is Mr Rogers without a spine. Check his record, not his rhetoric.)
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To: Steelfish

Democrats continue to vote for Santorum in open primaries. He’ll be toast in the general against Obama.


65 posted on 03/13/2012 8:51:00 PM PDT by weston (As far as I'm concerned, it's Christ or nothing!)
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To: Kazan

I’ve already said tonight that Newt is my man, but, he needs to go. It would be nice if the Casino mogul who is financing the Super Pac for Newt, would now join forces with the billionare who is financing Rick’s Super Pac. They could team up and both back Santorum and run attack ads on RINO-Rom and give him a taste of his own medicine.


66 posted on 03/13/2012 8:51:05 PM PDT by no dems (No RINO-Rom, no Kook-Daddy and no "out of touch" Rev. Rick........Gingrich.... YES!!!)
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To: Red Steel

“Problem - Ricky would get rolled by Obama.”

Mc-Santor-Cain

ARE WE GONNA MAKE THIS MISTAKE AGAIN, FOLKS?


67 posted on 03/13/2012 8:51:05 PM PDT by tcrlaf (Election 2012: THE RAPTURE OF THE DEMOCRATS)
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To: azcap
the Rats are praying for Santorum.

Of course they are - that's why Santorum has received virtually no vetting so far. And he won't, unless he manages to squeak out the nomination. Then he will be hit from every angle and his inability to stay on task and control his tongue will send him to a flaming landslide loss.

Every Democrat I've talked to - and I mean every last mother's son among them - has emphatically hoped that the GOP nominates Santorum, even more so than Ron Paul. The GOPer they are most scared of tends to divide evenly between Newt and Romney.

68 posted on 03/13/2012 8:51:18 PM PDT by Yashcheritsiy
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To: Yashcheritsiy

Sigh... You’re whistling past the graveyard. Newt is going to go from hurting the Conservative movement to hurting his own reputation if he doesn’t get out soon. He is nothing more than a spoiler now...


69 posted on 03/13/2012 8:52:08 PM PDT by GulfBreeze (Still a Santorum guy !)
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To: tennmountainman
Just imagine what Santorum could do, if had all that Casino Owners money like Newt.


Not so saintly Santo has his big time Super Pac supporters.

Oh, here is Ricky not being truthful and getting caught at fibbing:



"Rick Santorum on Thursday afternoon slipped away from the campaign trail to speak to a fundraiser for a supportive super PAC, despite denying previous reports that he planned to do so.

The fundraiser drew between 20 and 25 donors to a gated country club in Dallas where Santorum spoke for about half-an-hour about the previous evening’s debate and the upcoming primaries, then chatted briefly with supporters, according to a source familiar with the event...."

Read more: http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0212/73262.html#ixzz1p3kqrqKF

70 posted on 03/13/2012 8:52:38 PM PDT by Red Steel
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To: Red Steel

John King just sketched in a scenario on CNN whereby if Gingrich leaves now, Santorum could catch up to Romney’s delegate count. But it would be IMPOSSIBLE to do so if Gingrich continues in the race.

Time for true conservatives to now demand that Gingrich quit. He was a spoiler in WA, MI, and OH. Enough is enough unless we want Romney. Interestingly, on Super Tuesday Carl Cameron reported on FoxNews that the Romney camp is “happy” to have Gingrich in the race. Gingrich’s sugar-daddy dropped him a $20m rope because he dislikes Santorum’s social conservative views and is a strong supporter of Israel and likes Gingrich’s idea of wanting to move the US Embassy to Jerusalem- a move that every American president since 1980 has been unwilling to do.

Gingrich has been described as an erratic and unstable “Hindenberg ready to explode” and it will we who will end up sweeping the debris if he helps Romney get the nomination.


71 posted on 03/13/2012 8:53:48 PM PDT by Steelfish (ui)
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To: madison10
If Rick is so awful, if so many people AREN'T going to vote for him, then why is he winning so many states?

Because what it takes to win Republican primaries and what it takes to win the general election are not the same thing.

72 posted on 03/13/2012 8:54:22 PM PDT by Yashcheritsiy
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To: madison10
If Rick is so awful, if so many people AREN'T going to vote for him, then why is he winning so many states?

Because what it takes to win Republican primaries and what it takes to win the general election are not the same thing.

73 posted on 03/13/2012 8:54:44 PM PDT by Yashcheritsiy
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To: Yashcheritsiy

“...Newt is rising, and Santorum is dropping...” la la la... La LA LAAA... la la LA... laaa laaa laaaaaaa la la... la la... la... la... l... l... ... ... .. .. . “o


74 posted on 03/13/2012 8:59:15 PM PDT by dps.inspect (the system is rigged...)
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To: All

Newsflash to Santorumites: You need Gingrich to stay in the race in order to deprive Romney from hitting 1,144.

In a 1-1 with Romney vs. Santorum, Santorum would be far less competitive; this has already been demonstrated in Ohio and Michigan.

Mind you, not all Gingrich voters would go Santorum’s way. Also, it’s good that he stays in to keep Romney divided on two fronts.


75 posted on 03/13/2012 8:59:39 PM PDT by Utmost Certainty (Our Enemy, the State | Gingrich 2012)
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To: Steelfish
Time for true conservatives to now demand that Gingrich quit.

Another problem, your guy is not a completely 'true conservative' candidate.

76 posted on 03/13/2012 8:59:56 PM PDT by Red Steel
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To: RIghtwardHo; All
WHY NEWT IS STAYING IN: Newt cannot stand Mitt Romney and he does not want Mitt Romney to get the GOP nomination. He said a few minutes ago, on FOX, that if he dropped out, Mitt Romney would have only one candidate on whom to spend all his money and spew all his venom. Newt feels that by staying in, he forces RINO-Rom to divide his money, energy and false, attack ads between two candidates rather than zeroing in on just one.
77 posted on 03/13/2012 9:01:35 PM PDT by no dems (No RINO-Rom, no Kook-Daddy and no "out of touch" Rev. Rick........Gingrich.... YES!!!)
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To: Steelfish
I'm ok with Newt staying in. He can't win at this point, but he can make Romney's life really difficult by picking his spots and running hard against Mitt in some key states. I just hope he doesn't hand Romney any more victories in winner-take-all states like he did in Michigan and Ohio.

NOW is the time for us to unite to defeat Romney--and it looks like Santorum is the man.
78 posted on 03/13/2012 9:03:54 PM PDT by Antoninus (Goal #1: Defeat Romney. Goal #2: Defeat Obama. If we don't achieve both goals, 2012 is a loss.)
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To: azcap; GulfBreeze; Lazlo in PA

“the Rats are praying for Santorum.”

Don’t be deceived. They fear Santorum the most because he connects with blue-collar voters and Reagan Democrats. If any of the battleground states like OH, PA, or other rust-belt states go for Santorum, its all over for Obama. Gingrich has baggage to bring down a fleet of commercial airliners and his unfavorability ratings are through the cellar and suffers from a Grand Canyon-size gender gap.


79 posted on 03/13/2012 9:05:08 PM PDT by Steelfish (ui)
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To: Utmost Certainty

Newt stated (post 77) on Fox mirrors what you said.


80 posted on 03/13/2012 9:06:47 PM PDT by Red Steel
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To: Red Steel

And your guy wants trillion dollar cap and trade; favored individual mandates; and wants amnesty because it helps grandmothers


81 posted on 03/13/2012 9:07:16 PM PDT by Steelfish (ui)
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To: Antoninus

I’m for whatever works to keep Romney from picking up more states, as long as it doesn’t destroy both of the conservatives.


82 posted on 03/13/2012 9:10:28 PM PDT by madison10
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To: tcrlaf

To all who are saying that Santorum would lose to Obama:

Remember that a collie or Persian cat could beat Obama.

Note that hard core liberals who mock Santorum as a “saint” (just like some Freepers do) would never vote for him. But they fall on the ground laughing at the thought of voting for newt.

And ask your moderate friends which they would rather have, if their choice was Santorum or obama. A lot of the family people would rather have a good guy with the Christian values they know and trust than a somewhat subversive person who has proven he can destroy the economy without missing a beat, and whose motivations are entirely secretive. You might be surprised how many religious blacks and Jews will vote Santorum. Again, I am talking about moderate or apolitical families. Not the hard core libs. Newt or Rick could not get their vote. But people were burned by voting Obama, and they don’t want him back in there.

It is a MYTH that you have to be a milquetoast romney to beat Obama. Real conservatives win. They surprise the media and everyone who sucks the media’s boob, but they do win!


83 posted on 03/13/2012 9:14:15 PM PDT by Yaelle (Santorum 2012 - we need a STEADY conservative President)
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To: Steelfish

While Santorum voted to confirm Sonia Sotomayor while on her career way to become Obama’s Supreme Court nominee who will keep on giving and giving to the socialist agenda for decades to come.


84 posted on 03/13/2012 9:16:40 PM PDT by Red Steel
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To: Yashcheritsiy

“Newt is rising, and Santorum is dropping. Santorum should have had both states by ten points”

???????????????????????

You Newters get to make up any crazy crap you want, I guess. No one had Santorum up by 10 points. Newt staked everything on winnning big in the South. And he was up by 10 points and more in a number of polls.

He lost tonight. Period. And your response is to make up some absolute fantasy nonsense about Santorum having been up by ten so winning by 5 in Alabama don’t count?

Can you not see how foolish this sort of argumentation is? Tinfoil quality.


85 posted on 03/13/2012 9:17:40 PM PDT by Houghton M.
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To: Steelfish

The real problem is that all the GOP candidates are weak candidates, all are flawed candidates, and all for different reasons. It isn’t going to be easy in the fall no matter who faces B. Hussein.


86 posted on 03/13/2012 9:19:44 PM PDT by Belteshazzar (We are not justified by our works but by faith - De Jacob et vita beata 2 +Ambrose of Milan)
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To: Yaelle
Remember that a collie or Persian cat could beat Obama.

That's BS. I wish it weren't. Please do not get into a false sense of security over how supposedly beatable Obama is.
87 posted on 03/13/2012 9:20:12 PM PDT by Utmost Certainty (Our Enemy, the State | Gingrich 2012)
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To: tennmountainman

Nah, that would have been too good a point to waste on Fox.

The two “good” points described upthread strike me as rather contrived and weak points. Got to hand it to him, he’s got chutzpah.


88 posted on 03/13/2012 9:20:25 PM PDT by Houghton M.
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To: Red Steel

Hah, awesome.


89 posted on 03/13/2012 9:21:35 PM PDT by Utmost Certainty (Our Enemy, the State | Gingrich 2012)
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To: no dems
If Newt can't win in AL and MS its hard to think of any other states he can win. He may pick up some delegates, but is a candidate who's only won two states going to get the nod in a brokered convention. Far more likely the establishment would anoint someone new than someone Obama would paint as an already 48 state loser. In a brokered convention Newt, in or out now, would probably have the third greatest number of delegates and become a powerbroker, but no way would he lead the ticket. CNN's analysis of how things might go, in what they characterized as best case scenarios for Santorum, with Newt in vs. with Newt out. Might still get to brokered convention with Newt in, but Romney would be real close to a majority. CNN didn't say it, but Paul's delegates could put Mitt over the top. In any case Mitt would have enough of a lead it would be hard to argue Santorum should get the nod. With Newt out CNN says Santorum can come very close to catching Mitt, but probably not quite catch him. Which would give Newt more influence at the convention.

Santorum's team put out a release earlier today claiming Mitt won't get near as many delegates as the media is granting him (and as CNN granted in their simulation.) I don't know enough to evaluate their claims, I can only relay their summary. Part was based on FL and AZ having gone winner take all contrary to GOP rules. They claim that will be overturned at the convention. Newt's fight to get a share of FL is well known here; AZ would be comparable and would be a sweet hit on McCain. Their other claim, which is more nebulous, but may more significant. They claim Rick's forces are out maneuvering others in caucus states as they progress through county and district levels. That they'll get more delegates than expected and Mitt fewer than expected. There has been minimal news coverage other than the usual wild Ronulan claims. Iowa had its county conventions Saturday. Rick's guy claimed Romney and Paul were wiped out there. My Scott county (Davenport) convention was covered by the local rag, but little was said about any changes... except that Ron Paul's guys were whining big time. Apparently Paul's guys tried to stage coups in several counties.

90 posted on 03/13/2012 9:22:37 PM PDT by JohnBovenmyer (Obama been Liberal. Hope Change!)
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To: lightman
I am not sure that Newt would take the VP spot for Romney. He, along with everyone Romney has ever run against, except Fellow Traveler RINO McCain, HATES HIM. They hate him because he fights dirty and lies about his opponents. He also seems to thinks that his money and connections entitle hi, to the nomination.
91 posted on 03/13/2012 9:23:45 PM PDT by Jim from C-Town (The government is rarely benevolent, often malevolent and never benign!)
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To: no dems

If Newt can’t stand Romney, why is he handing the nomination to Romney?

Scozzafava
Pelosi’s couch

Newtie actually will back Romney before he backs Santorum. His sugar daddy Adelson is deliberately using Newt to aid Romney. And Newt knows it and goes along with it because Newt is all about Newt and Newt wants his last, dying, gasping minutes of fame.


92 posted on 03/13/2012 9:25:29 PM PDT by Houghton M.
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To: madison10

How will splitting the 60% not-Romney vote keep Romney from picking up states?

Do you Newsters even think before you promulgate arguments?


93 posted on 03/13/2012 9:26:59 PM PDT by Houghton M.
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To: Dengar01; Steelfish; Impy; fieldmarshaldj
>> I've made up my choice, but Rick needs to come visit Illinois before visiting Puerto Rico. <<

Rick has multiple events lined up for Illinois later this week, but most of them are downstate as that's where the bulk of his voters will be. (polls show the Chicago area will go Romney and the downstate area will go Santorum. Statewide, they're about evenly tied as the GOP primary has a much larger share of the downstate vote than the general election has)

He does have 2 big events in the Chicago area. One is a fundraiser, and the second is a GOTV campaign rally. If you're interested in attending the rally (I'm carpooling with some Santorum delegates from the Palos area), it will be THIS Friday:

March 16, 7pm-9pm
Christian Liberty Academy @ the Grace Gym
502 W. Euclid Ave.
Arlington Heights, IL

Admission is free and I believe the capacity is 960 or so.

Also, Dengar, make sure to vote for Santorum's DELEGATES as well as the candidate himself. It's actually the MOST important part of the primary as we're one of only two states where the voters elect the delegates directly. I think you said you've been redistricted in the 3rd Congressional District (Lipinski). If so, the 3 Santorum delegates are Rich Grabowski (who is also on the ballot for Congress and should get your vote), Lynn Livesay, Thomas M. Mann, and 2 alternate Santorum delegates Jacqueline Grabowski, and Dean Mann .

94 posted on 03/13/2012 9:28:44 PM PDT by BillyBoy (Illegals for Perry/Gingrich 2012 : Don't be "heartless"/ Be "humane")
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To: Jim from C-Town

Newt won’t take the VP spot with anyone. He’s 68. He doesn’t know how to play second fiddle (and VP is 13th fiddle, not second fiddle.

If Newt can’t have it all Newt don’t want none of it.


95 posted on 03/13/2012 9:29:48 PM PDT by Houghton M.
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To: Red Steel

Nice try to pass off a canard as truth. This is what the Gingrich brigade does here.

It was President George H.W. Bush who appointed her to a district court judge in NY in 1991. Often times to break a filibuster over another conservative candidate, a conservative senator will make a trade-off. By your logic Nixon appointed Justice Blackman who authored Roe v. Wade, and Reagan appointed Justice Kennedy who authored Lawrence v. Texas that gave us the gay rights decision. Ergo, Nixon and Reagan are liberals. This is the kid of absurdity we get here.

From the Miami Herald:
Read more here: http://www.miamiherald.com/2012/03/12/2685728/romneys-sad-search-for-authenticity.html
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EXCERPT

Sotomayor’s only previous ruling that dealt with abortion was one where she sided with the pro-life arguments. The case involved a policy that prohibited giving government funding to groups that either perform or advocate for abortion in foreign countries.

She never directly put her judicial view on the core issue, the constitutionality of abortion.

Meanwhile, she’s been very clear about how she views the Constitution. This statement, from her 1997 confirmation hearing, could be used in a political ad positioning her as the patroness of conservative causes, not the devil’s mistress: “I don’t believe we should bend the Constitution under any circumstance. It says what it says. We should do honor to it.”


96 posted on 03/13/2012 9:30:34 PM PDT by Steelfish (ui)
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To: Yaelle

So, let’s make the EXACT same mistake we made in 2008, by electing someone with NO MONEY, no network support, no business support, no GOTV support, etc.

Romney HAS the networks required to run against the FOUR HUNDRED MILLION DOLLARS the AFLCIO alone is already planning to dump in to the Obama coffers.

Newt has the ability to CREATE those networks, and build the coalitions required, as well as the balls to do what is going to be required to defeat Obama, his BILLION DOLLARS, and most of the mainstream media.

Santorum does not, and that’s the EXACT same mistake we made in 2008. And I won’t even begin to go in to his ‘Google Problem’.


97 posted on 03/13/2012 9:31:05 PM PDT by tcrlaf (Election 2012: THE RAPTURE OF THE DEMOCRATS)
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To: Yashcheritsiy

“Newt is a strategic thinker” like proposing permanent moon-based colonies within eight years at a time of exploding trillion dollar budget deficits and $16T national debt, and $2.50 gas/gallon within two years regardless of world energy markets and geo-political conditions.


98 posted on 03/13/2012 9:37:13 PM PDT by Steelfish (ui)
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To: Steelfish

LoL Fishy you’re defending the leftist Sonia, and daddy Bush was a GOP-E player if there ever was one. No need to try at all. Here it is - Santorum confirmed Ms. Sonia the socialist on her career leg to become Obama’s SCOTUS justice.

“Vote Summary

Question: On the Nomination (Nomination: Sonia Sotomayor to be U.S.Circuit Judge, 2nd Circuit )” ...

Santorum (R-PA), Yea
Sarbanes (D-MD), Yea

- - - - - - - -

There he is Ricky ...voting for the socialist like a good GOP-E team player.


99 posted on 03/13/2012 9:39:40 PM PDT by Red Steel
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To: Red Steel

That was a nice side step you made on the Miami Herald article that gave you the basis for Santorum’s vote.


100 posted on 03/13/2012 9:42:55 PM PDT by Steelfish (ui)
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