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Man shot by Washington County tactical officers was armed, thought intruder was on his property,
oregonlive.com ^ | 14 March, 2012 | Maxine Bernstein

Posted on 03/15/2012 10:14:05 AM PDT by marktwain

The man shot by Washington County tactical officers in New Columbia Tuesday night had grabbed a gun because he thought intruders were on his property after his wife had checked on their barking dog in their backyard and saw a stranger in dark clothing.

Alberto Flores-Haro, according to relatives and witnesses, did not know that the men surrounding his home and neighborhood Tuesday night were authorities approaching to raid a residence just a few doors down from his home in the 9500 block of North Woolsey Avenue.

"There was someone in our backyard, and my mom called our stepdad," said Daniel Ibarra. "He told me to go upstairs and get the gun."

Ibarra, 17, said he didn't know where it was, and Flores-Haro followed him up the stairs and retrieved it. Ibarra said a stranger came through the home, and left through the front door.

Neighbor Juan Soto Martinez, 16, who lives across a walkway from Flores-Haro's home, said he heard Flores at his front door yelling with a man, who seemed to be outside, on the side of his house. Then, he heard multiple gunshots.

Ibarra found his stepdad collapsed in the front doorway of their home, shot in one arm and twice in the stomach, and called 9-1-1 about 10 p.m.

" I grabbed a rag and put pressure on his forearm," Ibarra recalled, and told his mother to grab a towel from the kitchen and place pressure on Flores' torso wounds.

GS.51SHOT115-02.jpgView full size Ibarra said his family had no idea that the men surrounding their home in tactical uniforms of army green were from the Washington County Sheriff's Office's Tactical Negotiation Team, who were assisting police.

He said of his dad, "I think he just wanted to scare them away. He didn't know who they were."

While his father lay bleeding, Ibarra said he was ordered out of the house.

"Once I stepped outside, I was ordered to get on the ground," said Ibarra, a Roosevelt High School senior.

He said the rest of his family, his mother and four other children from ages 5 and 13, were ordered to get out of the house, and then tactical officers grabbed his stepdad and carried him to a waiting ambulance.

Flores-Haro, 31, remains in serious condition at Legacy Emanuel Medical Center.

In a release this afternoon, Portland police said three members of the Washington County Tactical Negotiations Team were involved in the shooting: one Hillsboro police officer and two Washington County Sheriff's deputies.

While Sgt. Pete Simpson said early today "there was an exchange of gunfire,'' police said later this afternoon that detectives have not determined if Flores-Haro fired any shots at police. Police also said that the officers "repeatedly identified themselves as law enforcement officers.''

"Preliminary information released at the scene was than an exchange of gunfire occurred. However, detectives have been searching for shell casings at the scene, which is lined by a heavily wood area. A handgun was recovered at the scene, but detectives have not determined if the man shot at police.''

Mayor Sam Adams also released a statement: "The City takes incidents such as this very seriously. As with any officer-involved shooting, there will be a thorough investigation and we will make sure every element is examined.''

This morning, Portland police have said only that the man shot by officers had approached police with a handgun as officers were getting ready to serve a search warrant at a nearby, unrelated location.

Simpson said this morning that as police prepared to approach an apartment to execute a search warrant that a man from a nearby apartment emerged with a handgun. Simpson did not know if the man fired first or how many shots officers fired. He said only that "there was an exchange of gunfire." No officer was shot.

Police later in the night did serve a search warrant at a home just doors down from Flores' house on North Woolsey Avenue, and arrested Anthony Bagsby, 20, and Cocoa Tapli, 16, who face accusations of attempted aggravated murder in connection with a Sunday night gang-related shooting and robbery on North Woolsey Avenue.

Portland Lt. Robert King declined to release any more details on the officer-involved shooting. He declined to release the name of the man shot, or explain why police were withholding the name. King also declined to answer whether the tactical officers had identified themselves as police outside Flores' home.

Portland had a mobile command center set up at the site through the night, and left about 10 a.m. today.

Many residents in the neighborhood said they got little sleep after they heard the gunshots. Some reported hearing between four and five, others said six or seven.

Martinez, who lives across from Flores' home, said he was watching TV in his living room, and caring for his younger brothers and sisters because their mom wasn't home at the time.

"I heard like four or five shots," Martinez said. When he looked out his window, "Alberto was laying in the front of his home, bleeding."

Martinez said he told his younger siblings to "get down," and then took them to an upstairs bathroom.

Residents in the area described Flores as a family man and a good neighbor, who worked loading trucks. They described him as in his 30s.

"He's a good neighbor," said Maria Bosyuk, who lives next door to Flores. She said her children heard the shooting and couldn't sleep.

"It sounded like three, then three more" shots, said Michelle Clopton, who lives on North Woolsey Avenue.

As she went to call 9-1-1, she heard police shouting commands to someone on a megaphone."The cops were on a loud speaker, saying 'Come out with your hands up!' Clopton said, who kept peeking out her window.

Another resident who asked not to be named said she was lying in bed when she heard six to seven gunshots. "I grabbed my phone to call police and noticed they were already all outside," she said.

scenephoto.jpgView full sizeMaxine Bernstein/The OregonianHome where Alberto Flores-Haro was shot, pictured far right. Building in foreground is location where tactical officers were readying to raid with a search warrant last night. She said the police orders via megaphone came much later, at least an hour or so: "Come out of the house! Do it now!"

An officer instructed her to stay in the back of her house, she said, and she was worried about the many children in the neighborhood.

"I was sitting in my living room and heard a lot of shots," said Dorine Nafziger, a North Woolsey Avenue resident who lives with her husband and 3-year-old son.

She and her husband went upstairs and looked out their back window.

"We saw the big SWAT tank and a lot of officers in army green suits, helmets and shields," Nafziger said.

She got on Facebook to share information with other neighbors to figure out what was going on. At one point , she said she saw police lead five people from a home in handcuffs.

"It freaks us out," Nafziger said. "It's not the first time something like this has happened in our neighborhood." Sonja Andreas said the gunshots came in what she described as two staccato explosions. Then she said, she heard a lot of yelling and screaming.

She called 9-1-1 and said she was told, "Don't worry, there's a police action happening right now."

But Andreas said she didn't see the usual marked police cars, but a large armored vehicle, and men in what looked like military-type garb.

Tactical teams from Portland, Washington and Clackamas counties routinely rely on each other. Simpson said officers on these teams train with each other and are "fairly interchangeable." Washington County's tactical team is comprised of officers from multiple police agencies and was assisting Portland police last night as Portland's tactical team was in training.

Simpson did not know how many officers fired on the suspect or which agencies they represent.

--Maxine Bernstein


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To: marktwain

This story is plain messed up.

Walked through a guys home?

Repeatedly announced themselves? Sure.

Used unsuspecting man’s property for staging your tactical assault? How riggin Dumb is that?

Only thing right with story is no dogs were harmed.


61 posted on 03/15/2012 12:02:07 PM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously, you won't live through it anyway)
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To: Travis McGee

Do you stock your escape pod to old Forecastle Card scale of provisions:? Among other things, you get 1 oz. of lard and 3/4oz. of green berry coffee per day. You can also get 3oz. of dried fruit on Sunday, Tuesday and Thursday.

Back to the article. I saw this on the news this morning and the police were making it out like ‘we have no idea why this man attacked us’


62 posted on 03/15/2012 12:03:07 PM PDT by Cold Heart
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To: FourPeas

I don’t recall this story is


63 posted on 03/15/2012 12:05:30 PM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously, you won't live through it anyway)
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To: FourPeas

I don’t recall this story is


64 posted on 03/15/2012 12:06:08 PM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously, you won't live through it anyway)
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To: Cold Heart

Mostly it’s stocked with Captain Morgan.


65 posted on 03/15/2012 12:06:20 PM PDT by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: marktwain
As with any officer-involved shooting, there will be a thorough investigation and we will make sure every element is examined.''all involved are fully exonerated.
66 posted on 03/15/2012 12:09:54 PM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: Travis McGee

Captain Morgan?

It’s good to have skilled, experienced crew.


67 posted on 03/15/2012 12:12:29 PM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: DuncanWaring

Got that right.


68 posted on 03/15/2012 12:15:59 PM PDT by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: marktwain
What chaos.

Why go into a neighborhood full of woman, kids and other innocent concerned citizens, when the suspect in question could have been put under surveillance, stopped and arrested/detained when he left the home in question?

Why are we going to war within neighborhoods full of innocent people?

69 posted on 03/15/2012 12:21:55 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: Dead Corpse

“Even he thinks LEO’s as a breed have jumped the shark on a lot of this crap...”

Your dad is nobody’s fool.


70 posted on 03/15/2012 12:24:55 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (God, family, country, mom, apple pie, the girl next door and a Ford F250 to pull my boat.)
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To: GilesB
So here’s my most level-headed, unbiased opinion: I’m going to guess the guy moved from the apartment building backyard, through the back building entrance, out the building front entrance. (This is the only thing that makes sense without believing that the cops are complete tyrannical dunderheads)

Only problem this area does not appear to be apartments just closed space houses. Posssibly rental homes but in good condition.

71 posted on 03/15/2012 12:26:20 PM PDT by Ratman83
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To: RicocheT

I agree with you.

Absent unusual circumstances, cops should be dressed as cops, not criminals.

Even if they are dressed as cops is no guarantee tho. I think the killers in the famous St. Valentines Day massacre were dressed as cops.


72 posted on 03/15/2012 12:33:14 PM PDT by yarddog
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To: yarddog
I think the killers in the famous St. Valentines Day massacre were dressed as cops.

Then there was the guy that shot Barzini in The Godfather.

73 posted on 03/15/2012 12:34:23 PM PDT by dfwgator (Don't wake up in a roadside ditch. Get rid of Romney.)
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To: Ratman83

Satellite Photo available if you follow this link:

http://mapq.st/AtoIEx


74 posted on 03/15/2012 12:34:45 PM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: mojitojoe; Travis McGee

“A place like Castigo Cay is looking better and better.”

It looked good BEFORE this thread : )


75 posted on 03/15/2012 12:36:59 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (God, family, country, mom, apple pie, the girl next door and a Ford F250 to pull my boat.)
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To: marktwain

G__ damned gestapo tactics again...innocent man gets shotby cops and no one will be held acountable...BS...I am getting sick of hearing these stories about cops shooting people defending their right to defend themselves.


76 posted on 03/15/2012 12:38:10 PM PDT by Magnum44 (Terrorism is a disease, precise application of superior firepower is the cure)
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To: DuncanWaring

I look already, looks like houses. Some have unattached garages. Just small lots.


77 posted on 03/15/2012 12:40:00 PM PDT by Ratman83
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To: Joe Brower
I'd have to read the article again...but I thought I read that this was an apartment.

Did I misread that?

78 posted on 03/15/2012 12:46:58 PM PDT by Osage Orange (The MSM is the most dangerous entity in the United States of America.)
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To: mojitojoe
A place like Castigo Cay is looking better and better.

It's located right next to Galt's Gulch. One of these days, those morons are going to mess with a combat veteran, highly skilled in close quarters combat.

79 posted on 03/15/2012 12:50:06 PM PDT by SVTCobra03 (You can never have enough friends, horsepower or ammunition.)
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To: American in Israel
Er, more war on murderers, not everything is about drugs

Not in this case. It wasn't even murder, but "attempted murder" in regards to the suspect, not the law abiding citizen they nearly shot to death.

BTW, if ya eliminated this moronic, costly WOD, you'd have hundreds of thousands of cops with little to do.

80 posted on 03/15/2012 12:52:19 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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