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Can the Secret Service Tell You To Shut Up?
Townhall.com ^ | March 15, 2012 | Judge Andrew Napolitano

Posted on 03/16/2012 5:35:04 AM PDT by Kaslin

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1 posted on 03/16/2012 5:35:06 AM PDT by Kaslin
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To: Kaslin

They can TELL me whatever they want to tell me. Will it happen or not is another story!


2 posted on 03/16/2012 5:36:25 AM PDT by rfreedom4u (Just because someone thinks it's a good idea doesn't make it legal.)
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To: Kaslin

Now that will certainly go to court as I am sure someone is going to test it.


3 posted on 03/16/2012 5:36:30 AM PDT by sigzero
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To: Kaslin

Yes.


4 posted on 03/16/2012 5:37:10 AM PDT by allmost
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To: sigzero
Now that will certainly go to court as I am sure someone is going to test it.

Would that be the same court which ruled in favor of both Campaign Finance Reform and Eminent Domain?

5 posted on 03/16/2012 5:38:39 AM PDT by SIDENET ("If that's your best, your best won't do." -Dee Snider)
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To: Kaslin

The Secret Service can do whatever it damned well pleases and there’s not a thing we can do about it.


6 posted on 03/16/2012 5:40:27 AM PDT by Roccus
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This law permits Secret Service agents to designate any place they wish as a place where free speech, association and petition of the government are prohibited. And it permits the Secret Service to make these determinations based on the content of speech.

"Any place"?

Could that be a big place, you know, like the whole country?

7 posted on 03/16/2012 5:41:45 AM PDT by SIDENET ("If that's your best, your best won't do." -Dee Snider)
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To: rfreedom4u; All

I agree...

Telling a S.S. agent “F.U.”, in the long run, cannot be construed as a refusal to obey a lawful order...

They might not like the term, and you might take a ride challenging it, but they are hoping enough sheeple comply and not cause any problems...

I can guarantee you that no democrat will understand, much less be throttled for breaking this law...

Somehow you’d think SCOTUS would step in and take care of this fantasy for the Administration, but when you got only 4 that would side on the BOR’s and the Constitution, this will never see the light of day in that chamber...


8 posted on 03/16/2012 5:45:47 AM PDT by stevie_d_64 (I'm jus' sayin')
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To: Roccus

Actually there is...It depenbds on what you are prepared to do about it, and what you are willing to sacrifice for it...


9 posted on 03/16/2012 5:47:11 AM PDT by stevie_d_64 (I'm jus' sayin')
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To: Kaslin

Praetorian Guard?


10 posted on 03/16/2012 5:53:29 AM PDT by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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To: stevie_d_64

Be careful what you say here, FRiend.


11 posted on 03/16/2012 5:55:05 AM PDT by Roccus
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To: Kaslin

lemme see...wasn’t their a previous incarnation of an SS with such authority? .....Europe ...Germany....70 years ago....


12 posted on 03/16/2012 5:57:34 AM PDT by mo (If you understand, no explanation is needed. If you don't understand, no explanation is possible.)
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To: Kaslin

Enforcement of this law will be the problem. I’m pretty sure law enforcement will not be willing to enforce it the way the lawmakers envision. Just as surely the law will be tested; Americans are not accustomed to being silenced, on either side of the political divide.

This fiasco has backfire written all over it. It’s an invitation to break the law, and makes it more likely, not less, that chaos and riot could ensue from benign and peaceful gatherings.


13 posted on 03/16/2012 5:58:14 AM PDT by wayoverontheright
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To: sigzero
My sister was silenced several years ago for a peaceful protest against then President Bush during his visit to Cedar Rapids, Iowa. She went to court and was awarded $50,000 three years later. Of course were talking about a Republican President.
14 posted on 03/16/2012 6:03:05 AM PDT by Huskrrrr
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Come on they will just be “following orders” from das fuhrer and “fearless Reader”. You all remember how well that worked out the last time.

And NO, we cannot count on the USSC to issue a brilliant decision based solely upon the US Constitution as they have shown themselves to be NOTHING but political hacks with their endless stream of 5-4 decisions.

The USSC judges must have all gone to public school hence the inability to agree on the meaning of a rather short document describing the limits of government and the supremacy of citizens over that government. It takes a lawyer to screw things up this bad.

A computer, with a download of the US Constitution, Bill of Rights, Declaration of Independence and the Federalist papers would do a much better job of making Constitutionally based decisions than these black robed traitors to all of us. If these morons cannot agree on our most basic founding document then how in the hell are we as average citizens (aka honest non-lawyers) supposed to know what the hundreds of thousands of pages of obscure legal hieroglyphs mean?

If 4 of the USSC judges cannot figure out the constitutionality of a law then, IMO, ignorance of the law is a very valid excuse.


15 posted on 03/16/2012 6:08:04 AM PDT by Wurlitzer (Welcome to the new USSA (United Socialist States of Amerika))
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To: Kaslin

Napolitano is right.

Coming from a Commissar near you.

Keeping the barrel clean.


16 posted on 03/16/2012 6:08:14 AM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Pray Continued Victory for our Troops Still in Afghan!)
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17 posted on 03/16/2012 6:15:40 AM PDT by baddog 219
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To: Kaslin

Free speech does not mean the government is obligated to provide you a venue nor an audience. It can be argued that what many view as free speech today is a product of “evolving constitutional standards”. Something we conservatives don’t generally like.

It’s difficult to believe that free speech is not mostly about protesting, but rather mostly about advocacy, the former is about abusing decorum to gain quick notoriety while the latter adheres to decorum for civil discourse.

In any course, I don’t know if the law being talked about is good bad or indifferent with regards to free speech. I do think that such laws come about because somebody was abusing the process and probably gaining traction against the opposition.

It’s likely the new laws will be used more to stifle somber and deliberate conservatives, only to be called into question when used versus hysterically radical leftists.


18 posted on 03/16/2012 6:20:02 AM PDT by Usagi_yo
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To: mo

The elite want to turn the USA into a concentration camp of isolated colonies with the only news being state propaganda with an immobile society for all except the elite. They will dictate the collective gene pools of each colony to achieve the desired effect. When one becomes ill, they become disposable. There will be no religion as we know it. This could all happen if the people remain stupid. The government needs to be declawed.


19 posted on 03/16/2012 6:20:15 AM PDT by Surrounded_too
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To: stevie_d_64

“I can guarantee you that no democrat will understand, much less be throttled for breaking this law...”

But wasn’t that the point of hussein signing this into law? Democrats will be given as much free speech as they want, but conservatives will be tossed in the brink and there won’t be a darn thng done about that.


20 posted on 03/16/2012 6:22:25 AM PDT by freeangel ( (free speech is only good until someone else doesn't like it)
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