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And God bless my late Dad, a south-central Pennsylvania boy who married a Southern girl and raised a large family, all politically alert and concerned.
1 posted on 03/17/2012 4:12:37 AM PDT by BroJoeK
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2 posted on 03/17/2012 4:15:13 AM PDT by BroJoeK (a little historical perspective....)
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I took a military hop once, and we almost landed in Pennsylvania. The pilot, though, couldn’t find a place to land with all the moose and derricks standing around, so he turned the KC-130 around, headed west and landed in Las Vegas. Much better.

Then again, maybe it was Maine we couldn’t land in and we touched down in Texas. Does Texas have long-legged silky ladies? I remember them.


6 posted on 03/17/2012 5:07:02 AM PDT by sergeantdave
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To: BroJoeK
So, in the long arc or history, Doughface Northerners were essential to Southern Slave Power and thus to preserving the Union itself.

The modern equivalent of slavery is ties to the cheap labor lobby and affection for illegal aliens which supply it. Two of the three candidates with Pennsylvania ties share this affection. One does not. See the link in item #4.


The electoral math, so far, still shows Santorum doing way better than Gingrich.

Seven reasons for Rick Santorum


  1. Who has won the most states without the benefit of their own money, last election's organization or a billionaire casino sugar daddy?
  2. Who is everybody's second choice when he isn't their first?
  3. Who can get both the Romney people and the Gingrich people, who hate each other, to vote for him?
  4. Who has the best record on immigration?
  5. Who has the best plan for repealing ObamaCare? And is the only GOP candidate who didn't help write or approve legislation which helped spawn this fiasco?
  6. Who has the best plan for expanding the American economy and strengthening American families?
  7. Who is the closest thing we have to the "generic Republican" which polls show consistently beating Obama and is most likely to make the election about Obama's sorry record rather than about himself?

7 posted on 03/17/2012 5:44:10 AM PDT by Vigilanteman (Obama: Fake black man. Fake Messiah. Fake American. How many fakes can you fit in one Zer0?)
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"Newt Gingrich: born in Harrisburg, south central Pennsylvania, raised in nearby Hummelstown."

I thought Newt's adopted father was career Army - so how much time did he really spend in PA?

9 posted on 03/17/2012 6:33:22 AM PDT by Flag_This (Real presidents don't bow.)
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With reference to your next-to-last sentence, look at the dictionary and discern the difference between “its” and “it’s.” You will find that “it’s” is the contraction of “it” and “is.” What you should use is the possessive pronoun, “its.”

A very, very common error.


11 posted on 03/17/2012 6:49:00 AM PDT by OldPossum (ou)
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In today's upside down world, the Old South most strongly supports our traditional Christian values, devotion to constitutionally limited government, private enterprise and equal justice under the law as opposed to special privileges for the politically connected.

If you ponder your statement in comparison to commentary and actions from prominent Southerners of the period, such as Davis, Lee, Clay, Calhoun, Simms, Timrod, and Toombs, you will find that those values have remained intact in the South.

32 posted on 03/19/2012 2:42:08 PM PDT by PeaRidge
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In today's upside down world, the Old South most strongly supports our traditional Christian values, devotion to constitutionally limited government, private enterprise and equal justice under the law as opposed to special privileges for the politically connected.

If you ponder your statement in comparison to commentary and actions from prominent Southerners of the period, such as Davis, Lee, Clay, Calhoun, Simms, Timrod, and Toombs, you will find that those values have remained intact in the South.

33 posted on 03/19/2012 2:43:29 PM PDT by PeaRidge
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Excuse the double post.


34 posted on 03/19/2012 2:44:43 PM PDT by PeaRidge
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Eastern, Central, and Western Pennsylvania are pretty different places. Gingrich was the one with roots in South Central PA and he grew up on Army bases. Paul and Santorum are more from the western part of the state, though Ron Paul did go to Gettysburg College.

Pennsylvania really is the "Keystone State," in the sense that North and South would have gone their separate ways if Pennsylvania hadn't been there to provide a bridge. That Pennsylvanians weren't in love with politics or ideology, but devoted themselves more to manufacturing, money-making, technology, family and construction helped when other parts of the country were pursuing political visions.

35 posted on 03/19/2012 2:52:39 PM PDT by x
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I have never heard the term “doughfaced Northerner” before but I would think it was rather like what the name “redneck” originally meant. A redneck means someone who works in the sun and doesn't tan very well and their neck (and face) turn red. Usually someone of Scot/Irish heritage. A “doughfaced northerner” could mean someone with a very pale complexion who works inside and doesn't get very tanned. .......... Or I am just a simple Texas girl who looks for the simple explanation.
140 posted on 03/30/2012 1:50:24 PM PDT by Ditter
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