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Trayvon Martin's Shooter Defended By Fellow Neighborhood Watch Captain
nbcmiami.com ^ | 20 March, 2012 | Jeff Burnside

Posted on 03/20/2012 9:36:58 PM PDT by marktwain

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To: marktwain

Rambo was a vet looking up his old squad mates when a out of control local police force decided to “make an example” of him. His actions may have appeared, to an outside observer, to be wildly out of control, but from someone reading the book, they had it coming.


81 posted on 03/21/2012 6:07:47 AM PDT by Durus (You can avoid reality, but you cannot avoid the consequences of avoiding reality. Ayn Rand)
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To: Voter#537
Hey, if I had been followed down the street by an hispanic male on a dark and rainy evening, him in a car and me on foot, I'd had 911 on his butt right now ~ "he may be armed".

That'd been the end of that as well as Br'r Zimmerman's little reign of terror.

Alas, we are talking about a 17 year old kid buying Skittles and tea ~ not a hardened, experienced person who does not trust ANYONE following him down the street in a car ~ NO ONE!@

82 posted on 03/21/2012 6:08:36 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: Conscience of a Conservative; jimnm
The Florida statute, differentiates between "deadly force" and "other than deadly force".

I think Zimmerman is toast. He was stalking his victim. Encountered him. Shot him. The rest of it is just window dressing.

83 posted on 03/21/2012 6:11:07 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: marktwain

To Main Stream Media,George Zimmerman is Hispanic

By Angel, on March 21st, 2012

George Zimmerman the man who shot the young teen Trayvon Martin in Florida well likely face manslaughter charges rather than first or second degree murder, due to a Florida law that is called “Stand Your Ground’....

http://pushbacknow.net/2012/03/21/to-main-stream-mediageorge-zimmerman-is-hispanic/


84 posted on 03/21/2012 6:11:48 AM PDT by KeyLargo
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To: Joe Brower
But whose "stand your ground"? Seems to me that law made Martin's actions completely lawful and Zimmerman's unlawful.

The standards in the law are pretty specific.

85 posted on 03/21/2012 6:13:01 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: muawiyah
You decide to cut through a gated community. Gated, because they don't want people who don't live there to have access. The Neighborhood Watch guy asks you what you are doing there, and you take off running. He tries to trail you, relaying the info to Police. He gets out to try and verify what street he is on and you jack him from behind.

In the ensuing struggle, you are on top of the guy pummeling him. You get off and start walking away, but decide to come back and kick him in the head a few more times. Instead, you take a 9mm round to the chest and die...

Yep. Perfectly lawful. On Zimmerman's part.

86 posted on 03/21/2012 6:25:44 AM PDT by Dead Corpse (Steampunk- Yesterday's Tomorrow, Today)
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To: muawiyah

I disagree. Zimmerman had every right as a member of the neighboorhood watch to follow someone he thought was acting suspicously in his neighborhood. If the suspicous person then turns and assaults him of course he has the right to defend himself. I’m not sure where your strongly held “feelings” come from, but it doesn’t appear to be based on the known facts of the case.


87 posted on 03/21/2012 6:28:59 AM PDT by Durus (You can avoid reality, but you cannot avoid the consequences of avoiding reality. Ayn Rand)
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To: kearnyirish2

In a news report on Fox News this morning, Zimmerman was identified as “white.”


88 posted on 03/21/2012 6:41:45 AM PDT by Verginius Rufus
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To: Verginius Rufus

He’s Hispanic according to his Father. Who’d know better? The Media or his Progenitor?


89 posted on 03/21/2012 6:47:03 AM PDT by Dead Corpse (Steampunk- Yesterday's Tomorrow, Today)
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To: marktwain
A few thoughts here after listening to the 911 calls.

1. After Zimmerman called 911 and described the location, description and activity, he should have waited for police. Neighborhood Watch or not, the responsibility is report and observe.
2. Leaving his vehicle put him in the position of aggressor. If no crime was in progress or witnessed, he had no business initiating a confrontation.
3. The evidence will produce the facts, however, the tapes, and Zimmerman ignoring the 911 operator NOT to follow, is going to get Zimmerman a Manslaughter charge at the least.

The 'stand your ground' laws in FL are not a license to act on your own, UNLESS your life or the life of others is in immediate danger. Intiating the confrontation, and some of the things Zimmerman says on the tapes show he was looking for trouble and pushed this.

90 posted on 03/21/2012 6:56:34 AM PDT by Wizdum (My job is to get you to shoot soda out your nose)
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To: Durus
Martin had every right under the "stand your ground" law to IGNORE anyone and everyone who accosted him for any reason (except a cop). He was going about his business.

He was unarmed.

The law said he could use LETHAL FORCE only if he felt in fear of his life, and, lo and behold when he was accosted by an armed Hispanic male on a dark rainy night he would certainly have been allowed by Florida law to KILL Zimmerman.

No doubt you'd had your pistol out and would have been pumping round after round into Zimmerman if you'd been put in the same position.

BTW, that law does not say that ONLY the guy with the gun has the right of self-defense.

91 posted on 03/21/2012 7:01:56 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: Verginius Rufus

Fox is funny. They think Juan Williams is white too!


92 posted on 03/21/2012 7:04:02 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: Dead Corpse
You are way off course on this one. The kid was returning to the address to which he'd been invited.

He was there lawfully and doing nothing unlawfully. He was unarmed. He was a minor.

You do not have a license to track down and kill people on an imagined trespass.

BTW, if you want to use Florida trespass law to cover what Zimmerman did, you will first have to demonstrate that he has some property right there where he killed the kid (not just that he's a member of some neighborhood watch somewhere). That law allows you to call the cops.

You can, in fact, evict someone from a trespass on a permanent basis just by telling them to get out. On the other hand, if they were invited there you can't actually do that, so trespass doesn't count.

Neither does "stand your ground". If you invite them in you can't shoot them just for the heck of it.

You can read all about Florida law on the net. Look up Florida Tresspass Statutes, Florida Self Defense statutes, Florida Stand your Ground statute, Florida this and that and other things laws.

None of them say you can walk up to an unarmed person who is not knowingly violating any law and shoot them. On the other hand those same laws say that they can physically assault you to defend their life against a perceived or believed threat.

You really have to look at each party and see how the law applies.

93 posted on 03/21/2012 7:11:26 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: Wizdum
As for #3, the Sanford police already declined to file charges against Zimmerman.

Maybe they know something the MSM isn't reporting?

94 posted on 03/21/2012 7:13:28 AM PDT by Dead Corpse (Steampunk- Yesterday's Tomorrow, Today)
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To: muawiyah
YOU ARE HOPELESS.
I hope it turns out 100% THE WAY YOU BELIEVE IT TO BE.
I don't think you could handle any other senerio.
Flame away, this is my last reply on this subject. . . . .
95 posted on 03/21/2012 7:15:53 AM PDT by DeaconRed (I am the Only Daddy that will walk the line. . . . . . .)
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To: marktwain
What about the numerous calls Zimmerman made to 9-1-1, none of which resulted in arrest?

That is wannabe behavior to the max. He wanted to be important. He wasn't. He wanted to help the Police, he didn't.

He got himself into a confrontation with an unarmed and innocent 17 year old eating CANDY - and then thought the skinny kid who he outweighed significantly was a threat to his life - so he killed him.

If the skinny kid was a threat to the fat wannabe’s life - he shouldn't have continued chasing him down and harassing him for being black, and thus “suspicious” to the wannabe.

96 posted on 03/21/2012 7:18:27 AM PDT by allmendream (Tea Party did not send GOP to DC to negotiate the terms of our surrender to socialism)
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To: muawiyah
Zimmerman has an earring.

Maybe he rounded Cape Horn under sail.

97 posted on 03/21/2012 7:21:15 AM PDT by Oztrich Boy (This world is a comedy to those that think, a tragedy to those that feel - Horace Walpole)
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To: Wizdum

Yeah 911 knows everything. Police are there to write reports if they show up. The police are not there to protect you or your community.


98 posted on 03/21/2012 7:22:29 AM PDT by Ratman83
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To: Voter#537

There are people (we call them leftwingtards) who really do believe the “stand your ground” law allows an armed assailant to shoot and kill an unarmed victim ~ and walk away from the crime.


99 posted on 03/21/2012 7:22:43 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: muawiyah
There is no evidence that Martin was accosted, this is a figment of your imagination. Further it is not likely that Martin knew that Zimmerman was armed, this is also a figment of your imagination.

"No doubt you'd had your pistol out and would have been pumping round after round into Zimmerman if you'd been put in the same position"

Stick to making wild unfounded accusations toward news stories rather than to fellow freepers. Unlike the individuals in this story I am able to refute you.

100 posted on 03/21/2012 7:23:57 AM PDT by Durus (You can avoid reality, but you cannot avoid the consequences of avoiding reality. Ayn Rand)
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