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Zimmerman was on the ground being punched when he shot Trayvon Martin(FL)
Charleston Conservative Examiner ^ | 21 March, 2012 | Kyle Rogers

Posted on 03/22/2012 4:55:30 AM PDT by marktwain

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To: TalonDJ
There is no evidence that he confronted him. There is evidence, however, that he watched him. If you have seen a photo of the complex, it is a gated condo community, with the condo buildings in parallel with each other not on the street. So, if Martin had walked off the sidewalk and around the corner between the condos, then Zimmerman would have had to get out to further WATCH him and relay direction of travel and further info to the dispatcher.

No where in the call (not a 911 call, but a non-emergency number,which is what you are supposed to use when reporting suspicious activity) is it audible that Zimmerman says anyhting (confronts) Martin. Also, no evidence that he was brandishing his weapon. Finally, there are no statutes that state someone with a legal CWP can not be a patrolling member of a neighborhood watch, that would be unconstitutional. But then, as others have stated, getting rid of concealed carry is more than likely the ultimate agenda of the MSM et al.

161 posted on 03/22/2012 11:20:03 AM PDT by cport (How can political capital be spent on a bunch of ingrates)
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To: Ratman83
Following someone is not a threat and being followed does not allow someone to attack. If you really believe it does then you should go home and cower under you bed.

Ok. So wait till the person has his hands on you. Smart advice.

162 posted on 03/22/2012 11:27:10 AM PDT by justice14 ("stand up defend or lay down and die")
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To: TalonDJ

Go look again? How in the hell can you “look” at a recording?

I heard the 911 tapes that were released. And there were no racial slurs used by Zimmerman. If you have links to the recording that shows a slur being used then please provide a link.


163 posted on 03/22/2012 11:33:33 AM PDT by saleman (!!!!)
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To: TalonDJ

“If you do then you open yourself up to prosecution. “

“It is just too darn easy to get in a fight and then blow someone away.”

Name the times that happened. This is all urban legend passed on from one ignorant person to another. That is what liberals claim will happen with concealed carry: People will just get into traffic accidents and bar brawls and shoot each other. That hasn’t happened.


164 posted on 03/22/2012 11:36:11 AM PDT by CodeToad (I'm so right-wing if I lifted my left leg I'd go into a spin.)
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To: Kenny Bunk

Yes the Jungle drums are going to put a lot of pressure on the DA to do something. It just probably won’t go anywhere. I can’t see a jury of 12 convicting a guy who was on the ground yelling for help of murder. The family will go after him civilly.


165 posted on 03/22/2012 11:39:05 AM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: TalonDJ

We don’t know the facts- only the stories the lib rats have put out.
I still say there a reason Zimmerman was not arrested.


166 posted on 03/22/2012 11:41:09 AM PDT by patriot08 (TEXAS GAL- born and bred and proud of it!)
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To: TalonDJ

“the OTHER guy was recorded on a 911 call to use racial slurs “

Liar.


167 posted on 03/22/2012 11:43:17 AM PDT by CodeToad (I'm so right-wing if I lifted my left leg I'd go into a spin.)
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To: justice14

Whine.


168 posted on 03/22/2012 11:45:35 AM PDT by Ratman83
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To: CodeToad

Don’t call him a liar.

He’s just confused by the MSM propaganda.

And the propaganda put out by many of the members here


169 posted on 03/22/2012 11:46:21 AM PDT by saleman (!!!!)
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To: Little Ray
BTW: Did this Trayvon fellow have a prior record?

He was a minor, so who knows? NBC did manage to find out that Zimmerman had a domestic in his past.

170 posted on 03/22/2012 11:52:00 AM PDT by gundog (Help us, Nairobi-Wan Kenobi...you're our only hope.)
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To: Inspectorette; wtc911

Good catch.


171 posted on 03/22/2012 11:57:24 AM PDT by reagandemocrat
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To: arbooz

>>”We want justice so bad we are willing to ignore the law.”
>
>There is a railroad being built real fast for Zimmerman.

No kidding.
But the sentiment in the first sentence COULD actually be a good [righteous] one, consider the numerous “laws” which exist only to 1) entrap, and b) deprive of rights. (Prime example being the “[ex-]felons can’t have guns” ‘law’.)


172 posted on 03/22/2012 11:59:09 AM PDT by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: CodeToad

I can’t quite make out what he says...f**king ???? and I’m not even certain it is directed at or about the kid/suspect.

It could be *f’ing *whatever that was hindering his following the guy. It just isn’t clear to me. If I had heels on I might say f’ing shoes!

I would find it odd that some kid with hand in his pants walking around looking in places while it is RAINING. Then the kid starts running. I would have reported that myself.

Here is the link and it is at the 2:21
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=jL72w4xiTVU#!

I don’t know what happened here but I do know it won’t be solved on the internet or in the media. It is for a court of law to decide.


173 posted on 03/22/2012 11:59:27 AM PDT by Irenic (The pencil sharpener and Elmer's glue is put away-- we've lost the red wheel barrow)
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To: ZX12R
HELTER SKELTER...from The WHITE Album, of course.
174 posted on 03/22/2012 12:02:24 PM PDT by gundog (Help us, Nairobi-Wan Kenobi...you're our only hope.)
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To: Irenic
I don’t know what happened here but I do know it won’t be solved on the internet or in the media. It is for a court of law to decide.

You are exactly correct. I think a lot of this is to get us used to the rule of the mob, as stirred up by the MSM, instead of the rule of law.

175 posted on 03/22/2012 12:06:52 PM PDT by marktwain
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To: saleman

“And the propaganda put out by many of the members here”

Sad to say.


176 posted on 03/22/2012 12:13:02 PM PDT by CodeToad (I'm so right-wing if I lifted my left leg I'd go into a spin.)
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To: Oztrich Boy; All
If he was afraid of Zimmerman, why didn't he just go inside? I believe Florida has a law which covers that situation.

You are correct, of course.

What I was trying to show, was that if Trayvon Martin was afraid of George Zimmerman, he could have avoided him by simply going inside. Both of them had every right to be where they were. Neither was obligated to go anywhere.

The question, which the Martin partisans are trying to define as irrelevant, is: Who started the physical altercation, or Who attacked who?

177 posted on 03/22/2012 12:17:35 PM PDT by marktwain
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To: Ratman83
Whine.

Cool. Well that tells me all I need to know. Thanks.

178 posted on 03/22/2012 12:20:20 PM PDT by justice14 ("stand up defend or lay down and die")
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To: patriot08

“George Zimmerman actually caught one thief and aided in the apprehension of other criminals.”

Trayvon Martin was not a thief and was not a criminal. He wasn’t even trespassing. Zimmerman forced this situation. If some fat loser was chasing my son at night in the rain I would want him to “stand his ground” if necessary and defend himself. If Trayvon was sucessfully defending himself that does not excuse Zimmerman shooting him. Zimmerman does not have the stand your ground defense in this stituation.


179 posted on 03/22/2012 12:25:51 PM PDT by Bizhvywt
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To: Bizhvywt

Again, there is no evidence that he was being chased. Watched,yes, chased no. He isn’t out of breath in the dispatcher tape.


180 posted on 03/22/2012 12:27:45 PM PDT by cport (How can political capital be spent on a bunch of ingrates)
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