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Initial police report, Trayvon martin, George Zimmerman
Sanford Government ^ | Sanford Police Department

Posted on 03/22/2012 6:26:34 PM PDT by marktwain

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What struck me was the description of George Zimmerman, and what he said.
1 posted on 03/22/2012 6:26:46 PM PDT by marktwain
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To: marktwain

links not working for me, what did it say


2 posted on 03/22/2012 6:30:23 PM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: marktwain

Link didn’t work?


3 posted on 03/22/2012 6:31:03 PM PDT by dynachrome ("Our forefathers didn't bury their guns. They buried those that tried to take them.")
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Yep!


4 posted on 03/22/2012 6:32:17 PM PDT by Postman (The only handgun we can carry in the PRNJ shoots rubber bands)
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Link 404 error...

The page cannot be found

The page you are looking for might have been removed, had its name changed, or is temporarily unavailable.

5 posted on 03/22/2012 6:34:21 PM PDT by NoCmpromiz (John 14:6 is a non-pluralistic comment.)
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To: marktwain

Link stink.


6 posted on 03/22/2012 6:35:12 PM PDT by Blennos
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Didn't work for me either.

This...

http://www.sanfordfl.gov/investigati...ial Report.pdf

...doesn't look like a valid URL.

7 posted on 03/22/2012 6:36:49 PM PDT by Bloody Sam Roberts (I will not comply. I will NEVER submit.)
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To: marktwain
Try this folks:

Trayvon Martin Investigation

8 posted on 03/22/2012 6:37:06 PM PDT by rarestia (It's time to water the Tree of Liberty.)
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To: NoCmpromiz

http://www.sanfordfl.gov/investigation/docs/Twin%20Lakes%20Shooting%20Initial%20Report.pdf

Been on wiki for a while.


9 posted on 03/22/2012 6:37:06 PM PDT by ltc8k6
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To: marktwain

So the back of Zimmermans shirt was wet and covered in grass.
He was bleeding from the nose and back of his head.

That sounds like an assault occurred prior to the shooting to me.


10 posted on 03/22/2012 6:41:06 PM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: ltc8k6

Sounds like there was some kind of physical confrontation.


11 posted on 03/22/2012 6:46:27 PM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: ltc8k6
Thanks. Also found this:

Zimmerman_Martin_shooting

12 posted on 03/22/2012 6:47:09 PM PDT by NoCmpromiz (John 14:6 is a non-pluralistic comment.)
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To: mylife

With Farrakhn jumping all over this, we might have another Al Sharpton/Tawana Brawley situation on our hands.


13 posted on 03/22/2012 6:48:29 PM PDT by doc1019 (Romney will never get my vote!)
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To: marktwain

Be ready for riots when Zimmerman is let go.


14 posted on 03/22/2012 6:49:43 PM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: driftdiver

It’s been several years since the last great riots ... guess it’s time for new TVs, what with all the new advances in technology and all.


15 posted on 03/22/2012 6:57:09 PM PDT by doc1019 (Romney will never get my vote!)
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To: NoCmpromiz

“If Zimmerman was told not to continue to follow Trayvon, can that be considered in this investigation?
Yes it will; however, the telecommunications call taker asked Zimmerman “are you following him”. Zimmerman replied, “yes”. The call taker stated “you don’t need to do that”. The call taker’s suggestion is not a lawful order that Mr. Zimmerman would be required to follow. Zimmerman’s statement was that he had lost sight of Trayvon and was returning to his truck to meet the police officer when he says he was attacked by Trayvon.”


16 posted on 03/22/2012 6:59:29 PM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (It's the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine!)
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To: marktwain

This is exactly why I’m not rushing to any kind of judgement. The evidence needs to come out before the verdict is passed down. There’s a reason the PD hasn’t filed charges against Zimmerman.

While I won’t exclude the idea that Zimmerman might be some class of racist who just wanted to target black folks, I’ll need some kind of evidence first.

Believe it or not, Al Sharpton and Imam Farrakhan’s bombast is not, in fact, evidence.


17 posted on 03/22/2012 7:06:49 PM PDT by risen_feenix
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To: doc1019
Guess its time for new TV's

There is a lot of truth to that. I was in the NG in Memphis for the 1978 Fireman's Strike Riots. It was ten years after the MLK Riots. The TV stores were the first to get hit. Let them riot, the NG is better trained and equipped and many of them have served in combat in Iraq and Afghanistan. It won't be pretty.

18 posted on 03/22/2012 7:07:17 PM PDT by vetvetdoug
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To: driftdiver; marktwain
Be ready for riots when Zimmerman is let go.

When Oakland, CA merchants start getting out the plywood, you'll know the time is near!

19 posted on 03/22/2012 7:13:06 PM PDT by thecodont
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To: marktwain

From reading the reports and listening to the 911 calls this is basically what happened.

Mr. Zimmerman was coming back or heading out to do so errands when he sees a suspicious Black guy walking in his gated community. There had been some recent burglaries in the community or in a neighborhood very close by so Mr. Zimmerman thought the suspicious Black guy might be one of them. Mr. Zimmerman follows him a bit and Trayvon notices and doesn’t like it and stares at Mr. Zimmerman. Trayvon then starts walking and Mr. Zimmerman gets out and follows him by foot. All this time Mr. Zimmerman is on the phone to 911 reporting what he is seeing.

Trayvon starts running and Mr. Zimmerman loses sight of him. Mr. Zimmerman ends his call with 911. At this point Mr. Zimmerman walks back to his truck but is jumped by Trayvon. Trayvon is on top of him beating the crap out of Mr. Zimmerman while Mr. Zimmerman is yelling help as loud as he can. On one of the 911 calls you can hear him yelling over and over. No one in the neighborhood goes to help Mr. Zimmerman because they are all too scared to do so.

Mr. Zimmerman realizes no one is coming to help so he does what he has to do to protect his life which is to pull his gun. He fires on round which turns out to be fatal and Trayvon dies. Cops show up shortly and secure the scene and process it.


20 posted on 03/22/2012 7:21:10 PM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (It's the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine!)
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To: driftdiver

Zimmerman was never arrested.


21 posted on 03/22/2012 7:22:36 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: Jack Hydrazine
So many opinions and assumptions, I don't know where to start.

a suspicious Black guy

Suspicious to whom? What made him suspicious? Oh, he was carrying a bag of chips and a bottle of iced tea.

Enough for now.

22 posted on 03/22/2012 7:25:20 PM PDT by Revolting cat! (Let us prey!)
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To: Revolting cat!

1. Suspicious to the neighborhood watch captian, Zimmerman, derp derp.

2. Listen to the 911 call.

3. Turns out the innocent 12 year old kid was a violent criminal who got what he deserved.


23 posted on 03/22/2012 7:34:31 PM PDT by chris37 (Heartless.)
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To: driftdiver

And Zer0’s justification for martial law???


24 posted on 03/22/2012 7:34:48 PM PDT by RatRipper (I'll ride a turtle to work every day before I buy anything from Government Motors.)
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To: Jack Hydrazine
LOL, time line, but a good fabrication anyway.
25 posted on 03/22/2012 7:40:00 PM PDT by org.whodat
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To: Jack Hydrazine

>>Trayvon starts running and Mr. Zimmerman loses sight of him. Mr. Zimmerman ends his call with 911. At this point Mr. Zimmerman walks back to his truck but is jumped by Trayvon. Trayvon is on top of him beating the crap out of Mr. Zimmerman while Mr. Zimmerman is yelling help as loud as he can. On one of the 911 calls you can hear him yelling over and over. No one in the neighborhood goes to help Mr. Zimmerman because they are all too scared to do so.

>>Mr. Zimmerman realizes no one is coming to help so he does what he has to do to protect his life which is to pull his gun. He fires on round which turns out to be fatal and Trayvon dies. Cops show up shortly and secure the scene and process it.

Yeah, I heard the tapes and it doesn’t seem like Travon is innocent at all. You have a neighborhood watch guy, trying to do his job, screaming HELP audibly in several 911 tapes, and then a gunshot. I don’t see how or why this is racism. I also don’t see why baby pictures represent the actions of a 17 year old.


26 posted on 03/22/2012 7:43:40 PM PDT by struggle (http://killthegovernment.wordpress.com/)
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To: org.whodat

“LOL, time line, but a good fabrication anyway.”

If you see this as a fabrication, you must know the real story. Let’s have it.


27 posted on 03/22/2012 7:45:00 PM PDT by Rembrandt (.. AND the donkey you rode in on.)
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To: Revolting cat!

Mr. Zimmerman reported to 911 that he was acting suspicious. From what Mr. Zimmerman said to the 911 dispatcher when Mr. Zimmerman was still in his truck Trayvon was staring at him. Then Trayvon started walking away. That’s when Mr. Zimmerman starting folliwing him on foot. Then Trayvon ran off and disappeared.

From the sat photo of the gated it looks like Trayvon ran around one of the condo buildings and disappeared. This was all taking place about 7:00-7:17 p.m. with sunset about 7:37pm. After Mr. Zimmerman lost sight of Trayvon he ended the call with 911 and started walking back to his truck. It looks like what happened is Trayvon ran around one of the condo buildings and doubled back to the point where Mr. Zimmerman’s truck was. When Mr. Zimmerman was approaching his truck Trayvon jumped him with Mr. Zimmerman landing on the grass with Trayvon on top of him beating the crap out of Mr. Zimmerman. Mr. Zimmerman yelled and yelled for help but no one would come to his aid.

From listening to all of the 911 calls from witnesses they were all women and one older female girl. I guess they were the only ones home with no men around at the time and they weren’t going out to help him. Most of the made that quite clear.

Mr. Zimmer realized his life was in jeopardy and did what he could to protect himself by firing one shoot. You could hear that single shot on one of the 911 calls and all of the witness who called in said they also heard one shot.


28 posted on 03/22/2012 7:46:50 PM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (It's the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine!)
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To: org.whodat

A fabrication of what? I am just giving a summary of the police reports and 911 calls.


29 posted on 03/22/2012 7:48:19 PM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (It's the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine!)
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To: Rembrandt
Simple black kid walking along minding his own business, zimmerman jumps out of car and ask him what are you doing here, kid punches him in nose the cop wannabe land on his ass and shoots kid., none of which would have happened if the cop wannabe had been minding his own business. End of story,
30 posted on 03/22/2012 7:51:52 PM PDT by org.whodat
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To: org.whodat

Well then, it would seem to be an open and shut case....so, riddle me this....why hasn’t a warrant been issued for his arrest?


31 posted on 03/22/2012 7:53:26 PM PDT by dfwgator (Don't wake up in a roadside ditch. Get rid of Romney.)
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To: struggle

From listening to the way the media has reported it I was on the side of Trayvon. After reading the police reports and listening to the 911 calls I come down squarely on the side of Mr. Zimmerman.

Mr. Zimmerman was taken by surprise by Trayvon and attacked. Mr. Zimmerman’s firing his gun in self defense was completely justified.

I hope, I just hope that the Feds and media don’t continue to fed the frenzy with their lies and distortions and end up starting a race riot over this.


32 posted on 03/22/2012 7:54:50 PM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (It's the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine!)
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To: org.whodat

“fabrication”

The only one make things up is you. If you don’t like the way things turned out, tough noogies. Stop lying about it. You don’t know what happened and to call factual summaries “fabrications” only to then post that crap you did, well, grow the Hell up already.


33 posted on 03/22/2012 7:56:01 PM PDT by CodeToad (I'm so right-wing if I lifted my left leg I'd go into a spin.)
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To: org.whodat

That’s the media’s version. Go and read the police reports and listen to the 911 tapes.


34 posted on 03/22/2012 7:56:25 PM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (It's the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine!)
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To: CodeToad
Ignorance ! That all you've got ignorance.
35 posted on 03/22/2012 7:58:19 PM PDT by org.whodat
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Mr. Zimmerman was taken by surprise by Trayvon and attacked

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Please direct us to the police reports and 911 tapes that you say gave you this information.

36 posted on 03/22/2012 7:58:19 PM PDT by wtc911 (Amigo - you've been had.)
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To: Jack Hydrazine; org.whodat
Here's what org.whodat wrote on another thread and this I regard as the closest to the truth of the case:

Simple black kid walking along minding his own business, zimmerman jumps out of car and ask him what are you doing here, kid punches him in nose the cop wannabe land on his ass and shoots kid., none of which would have happened if the cop wannabe had been minding his own business. End of story,

Everything else, including your story, which very good and plausible, is conjecture. All we know for sure are the contents of the 911 calls. Can Zimmerman's testimony be believed? Don't make me laugh. What did you expect him to say? That he, an unemployed husband of a licensed cosmetologists, woke up in the morning determined to kill a black kid? That he pulled the trigger NOT in self-defense? We'll never know, accept it.

37 posted on 03/22/2012 7:58:33 PM PDT by Revolting cat! (Let us prey!)
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To: Jack Hydrazine
At this point Mr. Zimmerman walks back to his truck but is jumped by Trayvon.

______________________________________

Please provide source of your statement.

38 posted on 03/22/2012 8:01:07 PM PDT by wtc911 (Amigo - you've been had.)
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To: Jack Hydrazine
Look man, zimmerman had no legal right to mess with the kid, he had no legal right to follow the kid. The black kid was doing nothing wrong, except walking down the street. Walking while black with a hoodie on is not illegal.
39 posted on 03/22/2012 8:03:07 PM PDT by org.whodat
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To: wtc911

What’s already been posted above.


40 posted on 03/22/2012 8:04:12 PM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (It's the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine!)
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To: doc1019
It’s been several years since the last great riots ... guess it’s time for new TVs, what with all the new advances in technology and all.

As long as they stay confined to the concentrated Democrat parasite nests ("cities")...


41 posted on 03/22/2012 8:05:32 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: chris37

..............Turns out the innocent 12 year old kid was a violent criminal who got what he deserved...................

Let me correct that!

...........Turns out that the 17 year old 6’2” football player .............................

The cute 12 year old was the old picture on the bookcase that Momma and the MSM trotted out.

Zer0 Obama is so proud that the presstitutes can manufacture a Whitey/Blackie confrontation.

Welcome to election year!


42 posted on 03/22/2012 8:06:58 PM PDT by Noob1999 (Loose Lips, Sink Ships)
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To: org.whodat

And Trayvon attacking Mr. Zimmerman is not the right thing to do either. That’s rather illegal. Wouldn’t you agree?

If you have a Black guy on top of you beating the crap out of you what are you going to do? Just sit there and take it? Is it justified for a Black man to beat the crap out of Whitey because Whitey is following him?


43 posted on 03/22/2012 8:08:37 PM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (It's the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine!)
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I listened to them too. There is nothing at all in any of them that has anybody stating that Martin took Zimmerman by surprise and attacked...nothing at all.

You made it up.

I could just as easily say that Martin was being stalked by a stranger in a car while on the way home (true). He ran away and lost the guy (true). After a minute he started home again only to be confronted by the guy who was now looking for him on foot and who had a gun.

The stalking stranger with the gun accosted him. Martin defended himself and over-powered the stranger with the gun who had followed and stalked him.

44 posted on 03/22/2012 8:12:19 PM PDT by wtc911 (Amigo - you've been had.)
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To: org.whodat

zero.whodat,

“Simple black kid walking along minding his own business, zimmerman jumps out of car and ask him what are you doing here, kid punches him in nose the cop wannabe land on his ass and shoots kid., none of which would have happened if the cop wannabe had been minding his own business. End of story,”

It was a gated community. Did the kid live there? If not, then he was illegal right off the bat and would be obviously out of place to a community watcher. I guess you never heard of Daniel Patrick Moynihan’s comments that you are welcome to your own opinion but not your own set of facts.

BTW, this “simple black kid” was 200 pounds and 6’3” tall.


45 posted on 03/22/2012 8:13:56 PM PDT by Rembrandt (.. AND the donkey you rode in on.)
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To: wtc911

The bottom line is that the police see no reason to arrest Zimmerman.


46 posted on 03/22/2012 8:14:14 PM PDT by dfwgator (Don't wake up in a roadside ditch. Get rid of Romney.)
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To: mylife

Or he got in a fight and got the worst of it until he pulled out his gun.

Why do you say assault? Zimmerman says assault - is that evidence?

His story about getting out of the car to look at a street sign, in a small neighborhood he’d lived in for years, patrolled for years, is that believable?


47 posted on 03/22/2012 8:14:29 PM PDT by heartwood
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To: marktwain
Anyone remember the black radicals urging blacks in the 60s to "Take ten!"

I remembered that when I read that Obama top associate Van Jones said that "2012 will be a turbulent, exciting year. It's important for us to get together and get ready."

Van Jones is also much admired by Mayor Kevin Johnson here in Sacramento, CA --

So I am suppose to ignore these things when someone like a Van Jones urges his people (both race and ideology) about preparing for

turbulent adj. Violently agitated or disturbed; tumultuous: turbulent rapids. 2. Having a chaotic or restless character or tendency: a turbulent period in history. 3. Causing unrest or disturbance; unruly: turbulent, revolutionary undercurrents.

So maybe Van Jones, instead of "take ten", given the attacks on that 14-year-old girl in Portland, Oregon, might say "Take it to the MAX!" Here

48 posted on 03/22/2012 8:16:26 PM PDT by WilliamofCarmichael (If modern America's Man on Horseback is out there, Get on the damn horse already!)
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To: dfwgator
The bottom line is that the police see no reason to arrest Zimmerman.

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No. The bottom line is that one guy is dead because another guy decided that he was 'suspiscous' and no genuine investigation was done by the local LEOs.

49 posted on 03/22/2012 8:18:34 PM PDT by wtc911 (Amigo - you've been had.)
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To: wtc911

So says you.


50 posted on 03/22/2012 8:19:23 PM PDT by dfwgator (Don't wake up in a roadside ditch. Get rid of Romney.)
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