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Witness: Zimmerman 'Never ... Tried To Help' Trayvon Martin
MSNBC ^ | March 25, 2012

Posted on 03/25/2012 12:30:48 PM PDT by Steelfish

Witness: Zimmerman 'Never ... Tried To Help' Trayvon Martin

By NBC News, msnbc.com staff and news services

A woman who says she and her roommate witnessed the final moments of Trayvon Martin's life told Dateline NBC that George Zimmerman had "his hands pressed on his back" and "never turned him over or tried to help him."

Zimmerman's lawyer, when shown part of the interview being aired Sunday night on Dateline, emphasized that his client would be claiming self-defense.

"I think there were efforts made to render aid to Trayvon," Craig Sonner told NBC's TODAY show.

Mary Cutcher told Dateline that she and her roommate both saw Zimmerman "straddling the body, basically a foot on both sides of Trayvon's body, and his hands pressed on his back."

Cutcher added that Zimmerman told her and her roommate to call the police. "Zimmerman never turned him over or tried to help him or CPR or anything," Cutcher said.

Sonner also reiterated what he had said in recent days, that Zimmerman suffered a broken nose and a gash to the back of his head.

A friend of Zimmerman's who appeared on TODAY with Sonner added that Zimmerman, 28, was distraught over the teen's death.

"Right after the shooting he couldn't stop crying," said Joe Oliver, who is African American and a former TV reporetr and anchor in Orlando.

Zimmerman has not been charged in the Feb. 26 shooting that has ignited racial tensions and raised questions about the Sanford police's handling of the case. Martin was black, and Zimmerman's father is white and his mother is Hispanic.

In a separate interview Sunday, Oliver said that "I'm a black male and all that I know is that George has never given me any reason whatsoever to believe he has anything against people of color.''

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: Florida
KEYWORDS: georgezimmerman; trayvonmartin
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To: Jonah Johansen
Watch the interview. It looks "coached" to me.

http://www.mediaite.com/tv/anderson-cooper-interviews-witnesses-to-trayvon-martin-shooting/

61 posted on 03/25/2012 1:15:57 PM PDT by carriage_hill (I'll "vote for an orange juice can", over Barry 0bummer and another 4yrs of his Regime From Hell!)
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To: Post Toasties

But if it’s interrupted by a gunshot it can’t be considered deadly because it didn’t result in death :)


62 posted on 03/25/2012 1:16:26 PM PDT by trappedincanuckistan (livefreeordietryin)
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To: Post Toasties

Zimmerman started the fight when he approached the kid and chased him.


63 posted on 03/25/2012 1:17:09 PM PDT by org.whodat
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To: Steelfish
An earlier story in which the police state that Cutcher changed her story from what she initially told them. Don't know what the truth is.

http://www.miamiherald.com/2012/03/15/2696446_p2/trayvon-martin-case.html

64 posted on 03/25/2012 1:17:59 PM PDT by brytlea (An ounce of chocolate is worth a pound of cure)
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To: Post Toasties

Stop making stuff up, the girls statement is in the police report.


65 posted on 03/25/2012 1:20:02 PM PDT by org.whodat
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To: Steelfish

Is there a requirement, a constitutional obligation that says he has to help? And what did this late-blooming witness do to help? Anything?

How much are the race baiters paying her for her testimony?


66 posted on 03/25/2012 1:20:31 PM PDT by meyer (Fluke - the new "F" word)
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To: alice_in_bubbaland

This situation is already confusing enough, with fact, fiction, opinion and deliberate misinformation all rolled into one.

The Internet is great. But those of us who depend upon it for our news of the world have to surrender the simplicity of allowing the MSM to frame issues and debates for us.

We have to do the validation ourselves, and it is often difficult or impossible to do so. But it is the burden we accept, those of us who take it seriously must do our due diligence, which means not blindly accepting a source of info, even if (or especially if) that source is CBS news or the like.

I am not an LEO. There are good cops, and there are bad ones. Clean ones and corrupt ones. Competent ones, and incompetent ones. Emotional angry ones, and calm professional ones.

I think they have a tough job, though I admit I don’t feel that way when I see them being paid double-pay on a detail watching a team of four guys working one shovel in a hole.

Bottom line, the cops had no reason to cover this up. They arrived on the scene, questioned people, and I would guess Zimmerman’s account meshed with that of several of the people they interviewed, and they determined that it was self-defense and didn’t arrest Zimmerman.

I think an investigation is fine, but the problem is, there are going to be people who are going to have an account or opinion to suit their predispositions. I personally think this blonde woman they interviewed is an example of that.

The waters are so muddied and the situation is so charged (deliberately, and I think, maliciously for racial and political purposes) that the truth will not be known.


67 posted on 03/25/2012 1:20:56 PM PDT by rlmorel (A knife in the chest from a unapologetic liberal is preferable to a knife in the back from a RINO.)
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To: Pox
The wannabe cops has no legal authority to approach and question anyone. That is the facts and that is what happened. Now make up all the stuff you wish, but mr zimmerman is going to jail.
68 posted on 03/25/2012 1:23:40 PM PDT by org.whodat
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To: Steelfish
The use of deadly force to repel a non-deadly attack violates the due process clause of the constitution.

What part of the Constitution makes the Due Process Clauses of either the Fifth or Fourteenth Amendments applicable to individuals?

69 posted on 03/25/2012 1:24:15 PM PDT by Scoutmaster (You knew the job was dangerous when you took it)
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To: mcjordansc

“So, if Trayvon Martin feared for his life because he was being followed by a suspicious man, does he have the right to fight back?”

The eyewitness didn’t see it your way. Had he, the cops would have arrested Zimmerman on the spot.


70 posted on 03/25/2012 1:24:31 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (God, family, country, mom, apple pie, the girl next door and a Ford F250 to pull my boat.)
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To: rlmorel

I agree with you. The cops know what happened and that’s why Zimmerman wasn’t detained. Now they are under tremendous pressure by the black community, MSM, and Sharpton and Co to change the facts.

Apparently the Black Panthers have a 10K bounty on Zimmerman’s head.

I find this whole thing disgusting.


71 posted on 03/25/2012 1:27:07 PM PDT by alice_in_bubbaland (Santorum in the primary, Anyone But Obama in November !!!)
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To: TASMANIANRED

“Try being on the receiving end of someone sitting you and pummeling you face before you decide if was non-deadly.”

Thank you, TAS!!!!


72 posted on 03/25/2012 1:30:26 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (God, family, country, mom, apple pie, the girl next door and a Ford F250 to pull my boat.)
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To: org.whodat

Why is Zimmerman going to jail? The eyewitness said that Zimmerman was heading back to his vehicle when he was attached and beaten by the kid.


73 posted on 03/25/2012 1:30:26 PM PDT by alice_in_bubbaland (Santorum in the primary, Anyone But Obama in November !!!)
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To: org.whodat

And you have the account of a “girl friend”, the contents of the conversation known only to her. Do you dispute that?

If there is someone unknown in my neighborhood, I reserve the right and have the right to question people. They may not like it and refuse to answer, but as far as I know, this is still America and there is no law that prohibits me from questioning anyone about anything.

Asking an unknown person what they are doing walking through your neighborhood (a neighborhood with a known crime problem) is not “starting an altercation”. The key here is the initialization of a physical altercation, and all official accounts point to Martin being the aggressor in that respect.


74 posted on 03/25/2012 1:30:26 PM PDT by rlmorel (A knife in the chest from a unapologetic liberal is preferable to a knife in the back from a RINO.)
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To: ExTxMarine
Ever play football, I have knock down many people much bigger than me, and one minute I would be on top and the next I would be on the bottom. But then as an exmarine, I know you were joking.
75 posted on 03/25/2012 1:31:38 PM PDT by org.whodat
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To: Steelfish

“Once you have the victim subdued, you cannot use deadly force.”
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I’m assuming you’re not trying to intimate that Zimmerman subdued Martin and THEN shot him?


76 posted on 03/25/2012 1:34:19 PM PDT by House Atreides
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To: org.whodat
If your assertion was correct, Zimmerman would be in jail right now. Fortunately for him, your assertion is pure nonsense.

Now, that doesn't preclude the possibility that the authorities will bend to the faux outrage coming from the black community over this incident and eventually indict him, but that remains to be seen. Also, I would point out that more facts may come to light and Zimmerman may be in trouble for something none of us even know at this point that has yet to surface.

In any case, once again, your assertions are absurd and I hope you can understand that your reasoning is fundamentally flawed from several angles.

77 posted on 03/25/2012 1:34:35 PM PDT by Pox (Good Night. I expect more respect tomorrow.)
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To: brytlea; Jonah Johansen

Read about Cutcher’s “changed” 911 tape: she was “hiding upstairs”.. have you heard/read it (Cutcher’s 911 tape)? I can’t find it...

http://www.facebook.com/pages/Mary-Cutcher-Esthetician/107724289599


78 posted on 03/25/2012 1:35:09 PM PDT by carriage_hill (I'll "vote for an orange juice can", over Barry 0bummer and another 4yrs of his Regime From Hell!)
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To: org.whodat

Of what crime will he be convicted? Please post the Florida statute.


79 posted on 03/25/2012 1:35:57 PM PDT by 101stAirborneVet
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To: Aria

How many more thugs do you want walking down your street in your neighborhood before you decide to do something?

Be careful in your answer. I live in that situation now.


80 posted on 03/25/2012 1:37:01 PM PDT by sauropod (You can elect your very own tyranny - Mark Levin)
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