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New delay over fighter jet choice
The Telegraph ^ | 3/25/2012 | Sean Rayment

Posted on 03/25/2012 10:23:37 PM PDT by U-238

The Government is poised to perform an about-turn on its choice of plane to fly from two new aircraft carriers that will enter service in 2020.

Senior officers have advised the Prime Minister to axe plans to buy the Joint Strike Fighter F-35C after the cost of converting the carriers to use them rose to £2 billion – on top of the £6.2 billion cost of building the vessels.

The F-35C is propelled off the deck by a catapult, and "trapped" when it lands.

Commanders have formally recommended that the Government buy the F-35B, which operates like a Harrier jump jet, and Philip Hammond, the Defence Secretary, has asked the Prime Minister to "sign off" the proposal.

But the disagreements between commanders and ministers were so protracted that there is no longer enough time left in the parliamentary calendar to make the announcement before Easter.

(Excerpt) Read more at telegraph.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; United Kingdom
KEYWORDS: aircraftcarrier; f35; f35b; navair; royalnavy

1 posted on 03/25/2012 10:23:51 PM PDT by U-238
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To: magslinger

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2 posted on 03/25/2012 10:26:25 PM PDT by Vroomfondel
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To: U-238
A very interesting turn of events. Especially considering the differences between the B and the C. They may 'look' the same, but those are two totally different planes - and I am not even talking about how they land/take-off, but rather considerations such as differences in range.

It also seems that it is a departure from the Strategic Defence and Security Review statement just over a year ago that said "We will fit a catapult to the operational carrier to enable it to fly a version of the Joint Strike Fighter with a longer range and able to carry more weapons. Crucially, that will allow our carrier to operate in tandem with the US and French navies, and for American and French aircraft to operate from our carrier and vice-versa."

Anyways, whatever version the Brits choose will still give them significantly increased capability over their current ability (which is nil since the Harriers are no more).

3 posted on 03/25/2012 10:51:56 PM PDT by spetznaz (Nuclear-tipped Ballistic Missiles: The Ultimate Phallic Symbol)
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I agree. But I hope that they make a decision soon.


4 posted on 03/25/2012 10:54:27 PM PDT by U-238
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5 posted on 03/25/2012 11:27:41 PM PDT by Oztrich Boy (This world is a comedy to those that think, a tragedy to those that feel - Horace Walpole)
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To: U-238

Why not a few “B’s” and some “C’s”...


6 posted on 03/26/2012 1:07:59 AM PDT by hosepipe (This propaganda has been edited to include some fully orbed hyperbole...)
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To: hosepipe

Good Point!


7 posted on 03/26/2012 1:09:26 AM PDT by U-238
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8 posted on 03/26/2012 4:14:31 AM PDT by magslinger (If I wanted to vote for a Commie I would vote for Obammie. He has a chance of winning.)
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9 posted on 03/26/2012 4:18:14 AM PDT by magslinger (If I wanted to vote for a Commie I would vote for Obammie. He has a chance of winning.)
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To: hosepipe

“Why not a few “B’s” and some “C’s”...”

Because if we’re going to spend £2bn adding catapults, we might just as well use them with navalised Typhoons rather than buying the increasingly expensive and delay ridden F35.


10 posted on 03/26/2012 4:42:10 AM PDT by Caulkhead
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The naval Typhoon or ‘SeaPhoon’ concepts presented recently have involved the use of ski-jump takeoffs to minimise the (extensive) modification work needed to make the aircraft fit for catapult operations.

http://www.fleetairarmoa.org/asp/news.asp?NewsItem=1431&Archived=1

Even if a ski-jump model is used, you would still need to commit funds to produce the thrust-vectoring engines and reinforce the undercarriage. So all in all, it appears close to impractical given the way the UK spends money.


11 posted on 03/28/2012 10:52:08 PM PDT by sukhoi-30mki
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12 posted on 03/29/2012 12:18:49 AM PDT by rmlew ("Mosques are our barracks, minarets our bayonets, domes our helmets, the believers our soldiers.")
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