Posted on 03/27/2012 5:32:25 AM PDT by Clint N. Suhks
With a single punch, Trayvon Martin decked the neighborhood watch volunteer who eventually shot to death the unarmed 17-year-old, then climbed on top of George Zimmerman and slammed his head into the sidewalk several times, leaving him bloody and battered, authorities told The Orlando Sentinel.
That is the account Zimmerman gave police, and much of it has been corroborated by witnesses, authorities said.
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And, since the moment when the two found themselves face to face was unrecorded and, as far as we know, unwitnessed, nobody can say with any certainty (speculation but not certainty) who initiated the confrontation.
You are missing the point. If Zimmerman had lost Martin it had to have been that Martin turned back (completely negating any possibility he felt threatened), and brought about the final face to face.
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SSo how would a defendant ever testify on his own behalf?
I agree with you. I even used to have sort of okay exchanges with him a few years ago.
It’s actually quite disturbing how many way off the deep end leftists there are on FR, many been here for years. And often with seriously nasty attitudes. Got a freepmail (actually 5) from someone the other day who said everyone on the thread hated me and she got freepmails to prove it. Totally schizoid nutso.
This Travyon thing has really been a sort of litmus paper or something, showing where a lot of people really are at.
Then why do you think he followed him for several minutes?
Here's a site with links to Zimmerman's 911 call:
At 2:07, Zimmerman says "sh*t he's running."
At 3:37 he says "I don' know where this kids is".
And that is your big chase.
I do see the problem. I think he was only shot once in the chest. I would have thought there would also have been a head shot. Once deadly force is being used, it makes sense to pay attention to that “dead” part.
Oh, there is one other thing. His parents should be fined for giving a kid a name that assured that by the time of his becoming a young adult he would be either gay or dead.
This goes for naming a kid any two words, one of which is misspelled, morphed into one word.
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I said nothing about testimony at trial, only self-serving statements.
A defense attorney can certainly put a defendant on the stand and ask him anything he wants to....but that then opens up the opportunity for the prosecution to tear the statements apart, which is why so many defendants are not called to testify.
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I'm not missing anything.
Without any witness to the events nobody can say what happened...not even you.
It is entirely possible that Zimmerman continued to look for Martin and found him. One could argue that this is more likely since we know that Zimmerman was following and we know that Martin avoided a confrontation by running away.
Things are not so just because you or anybody wants them to be. Most people realize this by a certain age.
“Trayvon Martin was suspended three times from school”
“In October, Martin was suspended with friends for writing “W.T.F.” on a hallway locker, according to a school report obtained by the Herald. A security guard looking through his backpack for the graffiti marker and instead found women’s rings and earrings and a screwdriver, described by the staffer as a “burglary tool.””
Burglary tool huh? Zim may have put the kabash on TM’s plan to do a little “jockey-boxing” that evening.
None of Zimmerman's testimony about the incident is at risk of being attacked as inadmissible, on account of it being self-serving. Not the statements he made to police, not the phone call to police dispatch, not any deposition testimony he might give, and not any statements he makes at trial if the prosecution goes to that step. The fact that much of his testimony is in his favor ("self serving" in the normal use of English) does not make it inadmissible as "self serving hearsay testimony", a legal principle.
A hypothetical example of self-serving hearsay testimony that would be inadmissible would be Zimmerman attributing knowledge to others (which is a form of hearsay), such as saying "my mother knows that Martin hit me and knocked me to the ground." The law would admit the mother giving evidence like that, if the mother had actual knowledge; but in this case the mother's testimony would be ruled hearsay because she was not present, and thereby lacked first-hand knowledge.
All testimony is subject to being rejected by a fact finder as being not credible; but that consideration happens after the evidence is admitted.
I've been noticing it as well.
They (Meaning Sanford cops) have got to have recordings with actual date/time info.
without that you can't tell if this took 5 minutes or 20 minutes.
That said, cell phone records can be subpoenaed from the company, the same as in civil cases and other criminal cases.
The Pink Panther Leader just wants to be insulated from the fuss....
(/s)
she appears to any reasonable person to ba a 51/50
going postal with the keyboard....
are you on the jury now? ask the judge to get the info for you and tell him to make it snappy!
Nowhere did I say you wrote anything.
I'm simply asking if you are you aware of any evidence, i.e.: eyewitness statements, CCTV, etc., that contradicts what he says happened or any evidence that proves that he's lying about what he says happened?
It is starting to look more and more like Zimmerman simply took out the trash.
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