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More woes for Airbus as A380s abandon flights
Moneycontrol ^ | 28 Mar 2012 | Anon

Posted on 03/28/2012 6:57:48 AM PDT by Rummyfan

Airbus's A380 superjumbo encountered fresh operational problems on Tuesday, when two aircraft had to abandon flights because of separate difficulties.

An A380 operated by Singapore Airlines and flying from Singapore to Frankfurt had to return to the Asian city state after one of its four engines developed a fault and had to be shut down. A superjumbo operated by China Southern Airlines ZNH and flying from Beijing to Guangzhou turned back to the Chinese capital after a malfunction with the air pressure system in the passenger cabin.

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How long before one of these behemoths fall sout of the sky?

1 posted on 03/28/2012 6:57:54 AM PDT by Rummyfan
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To: Rummyfan

It needs to get off the ground to fall out of the sky...and that has been a few and far between occurance..


2 posted on 03/28/2012 7:00:07 AM PDT by Fedupwithit ("Live free or Die: Death is not the worst of evils" - Gen. John Stark)
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To: Rummyfan

More reason to say: “If it not Boeing...I ain’t going”


3 posted on 03/28/2012 7:07:00 AM PDT by MichaelCorleone (Stop feeding the beast; spend money only with those who support traditional American values.)
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More reason to say: “If it not Boeing...I ain’t going”

BOEING AIRCRAFT - NO FUEL, NO ENGINES ... NO PROBLEM!

4 posted on 03/28/2012 7:16:29 AM PDT by missnry (The truth will set you free ... and drive liberals Crazy!)
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To: Rummyfan

This really isn’t an A-380 problem. It’s a Rolls Royce problem. Their engines have plagued the A-380 program. Not going to bat for Airbus, just pointing out the facts.


5 posted on 03/28/2012 7:25:00 AM PDT by saganite (What happens to taglines? Is there a termination date?)
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To: Rummyfan

I see it as typical bureaucratic planning - if 250 seats is good, 500 is better, and 1000 would be great!

Bigger is not always better.


6 posted on 03/28/2012 7:32:56 AM PDT by PGR88
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To: saganite
This really isn’t an A-380 problem. It’s a Rolls Royce problem. Their engines have plagued the A-380 program. Not going to bat for Airbus, just pointing out the facts.

It is still an Airbus problem. Airbus could have spec'd a P&W or (if necessary) a GE engine for the a380.
7 posted on 03/28/2012 7:37:03 AM PDT by Dr. Sivana (May Mitt Romney be the Paul Tsongas of 2012.)
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To: missnry

Thanks for the link. Interesting read.
Here is another interesting read on the same incident:
http://www.casa.gov.au/scripts/nc.dll?WCMS:OLDASSET::svPath=/fsa/2003/jul/,svFileName=22-27.pdf


8 posted on 03/28/2012 7:41:21 AM PDT by rawhide
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To: missnry
BOEING AIRCRAFT - NO FUEL, NO ENGINES ... NO PROBLEM!

I did not know about this incident. The video at the link has the plane climbing away so that was confusing.

I do remember the incident at LAX where a Delta 767 had both engines shutdown on climbout because the pilots accidently swithed them off.

They glided down to the ocean (almost) before restart and climb out.

9 posted on 03/28/2012 7:42:07 AM PDT by cicero2k
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To: Rummyfan

Engine faults !!!! Computer controlled engines you got to love them. In the late 80s and early 90s just as computer controlled large diesel engines came into service in fire equipment many departments expierenced WTF moments. The Detroit Deisel in one of our departments pumpers would shut itself down if the voltage fell below 10 volts. This mind you without warning.


10 posted on 03/28/2012 7:44:23 AM PDT by UB355 (Slower traffic keep right)
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In another one of our engines the fuse on the alternator would blow when you applied the brakes. No one ever figured this problem out and the manufacturer had to replace the entire computer system.


11 posted on 03/28/2012 7:47:06 AM PDT by UB355 (Slower traffic keep right)
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To: Dr. Sivana

There is another engine option. It’s up to the airline which engine they hang on it.


12 posted on 03/28/2012 7:58:34 AM PDT by saganite (What happens to taglines? Is there a termination date?)
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Our PW/GE alliance engine GP7000 is a fine engine that has not had the same problems of the RR Trent engine. (Pratt Shill, sorry)


13 posted on 03/28/2012 7:59:33 AM PDT by SteelCurtain_SSN720 (If you pass the rabid child, say "hammer down" for me)
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To: missnry
BOEING AIRCRAFT - NO FUEL, NO ENGINES ... NO PROBLEM!

Reading at the incident, the Boeing 767 didn't really run out of fuel but merely complex Fuel Quantity Indicator System (FQIS) problem. BTW, have you heard of real one that actually ran out of fuel? I used to be with this airline, our 747 left LAX to HNL, headwinds forecasted at 180MPH but it was >250MPH, at point of no return flight crews realized fuel wasn't enough to get to HNL, they changed altitudes but didn't help, crews cried out to G-d! Thankfully the 747 made perfect touch down but the engines quit after they trust-reversed the 747 was towed to the gate. Boeing or Airbus, they're only man-made, they're not perfect...!

14 posted on 03/28/2012 8:02:27 AM PDT by hamboy
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No, it (the Gimli Glider) really did run out of fuel.


15 posted on 03/28/2012 8:20:31 AM PDT by Ragnar54 (Obama replaced Osama as America's worst enemy)
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To: Rummyfan

Government-designed airplane = disaster.

The plane was built so France could say it had the biggest plane. That was the purpose, and the purpose has been achieved. At great cost.


16 posted on 03/28/2012 8:34:39 AM PDT by cookcounty (Newt 2012: ---> Because he got it DONE.)
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No, it (the Gimli Glider) really did run out of fuel.

LOL, yes it landed without power indeed, ha-ha-ha... I google'd and see the Wikipedia. Speed doesnt convert to altitude if the power is gone! Basic pilot training after making successful solo to next phase of training the instructor suddenly pulls the throttle just after lift off the student would learn how to land it without power, but the 767 captain wasn't an amateur glider pilot. Amazing story...!

17 posted on 03/28/2012 8:47:50 AM PDT by hamboy
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To: UB355
Now that must have been a real head scratcher.
18 posted on 03/28/2012 9:15:43 AM PDT by DarkWaters ("Deception is a state of mind --- and the mind of the state" --- James Jesus Angleton)
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To: cicero2k
The video at the link has the plane climbing away so that was confusing.

When I first watched the video I was waiting for the crash landing... The video in the story is when the aircraft was retired many years later.

19 posted on 03/28/2012 9:28:40 AM PDT by missnry (The truth will set you free ... and drive liberals Crazy!)
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