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Missouri House approves "birther" bill
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| March 29, 2012
| Elizabeth Crisp
Posted on 03/29/2012 3:15:34 PM PDT by Free ThinkerNY
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To: Free ThinkerNY
useless bill. They can print zero’s BC off the web.
To: Free ThinkerNY; null and void
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posted on
03/29/2012 3:33:53 PM PDT
by
little jeremiah
(We will have to go through hell to get out of hell. Signed, a fanatic)
To: 1_Rain_Drop
You mean the one that was forged? I think they would want a certified paper copy with a seal. You know, the ones you get from the State Vital Records office.
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posted on
03/29/2012 3:34:52 PM PDT
by
eagles_rest
("The time is near at hand which must determine whether Americans are to be free men or slaves." ---)
To: Free ThinkerNY
Why didn't you just BTTT @
your previous thread?
@HOUSE BILL NO. 1046
As used in this subsection, "natural born citizen" means having been declared a national and citizen of the United States at birth under 8 U.S.C. Sections 1401 to 1409, as amended, or having been declared a national and citizen of the United States under federal law as it existed at the time of the nominee's birth.
This bill is a POS!
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posted on
03/29/2012 3:37:42 PM PDT
by
philman_36
(Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty, and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
To: Free ThinkerNY
Nixon will never sign it, he’s a democrat. Nice try, though. Need to try again when we have Republican in there.
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posted on
03/29/2012 3:38:06 PM PDT
by
eagles_rest
("The time is near at hand which must determine whether Americans are to be free men or slaves." ---)
To: little jeremiah
See #5 and read the text of the bill.
Let me know what you think of it.
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posted on
03/29/2012 3:54:58 PM PDT
by
philman_36
(Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty, and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
To: eagles_rest
Nixon will never sign it, hes a democrat.
Given the way the bill is worded he just might.
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posted on
03/29/2012 3:56:19 PM PDT
by
philman_36
(Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty, and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
To: Free ThinkerNY
If the bill doesn't take effect until 2016 if passed, how can democrats claim that the bill is targeting President Obama, when Obama cannot run in 2016?
What the eligibility issue with Obama did was this: It showed us that the presidential candidate eligibility rules in each state had no strict rules and no official oversight in the past.
This Missouri law, on the other hand, will make the presidential eligibility rules clearer for all future presidential candidates in Missouri beginning in 2016, whether the candidate is a Democrat or a Republican.
In fact, I believe that after the 2012 presidential elections, other states will quickly follow Missouri's lead so that they won't have a repeat of the Obama disaster and confusion that they had during the 2008 elections and that we now have during this 2012 presidential election.
Again, Obama can't run in 2016, so I don't see how democrats can complain that the bill is targeting Obama.
As I see it, the bill will be good for both Democrat and Republican candidates in 2016 and all future presidential elections.
To: little jeremiah
And then once you see what a “natural born citizen” is defined as in the bill consider why only the birth certificate aspect of the bill is spoken of in the article.
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posted on
03/29/2012 3:59:16 PM PDT
by
philman_36
(Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty, and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
To: eagles_rest
You mean the one that was forged? I think they would want a certified paper copy with a seal. You know, the ones you get from the State Vital Records office.You mean like that short-form CoLB we all saw back in '08? The one Hawaiian State officials have repeatedly vouched for?
Yep. This bill is nothing more than tossing a bone to a small but vocal group of constituents so that Rowland can tell them at least he did something.
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posted on
03/29/2012 4:00:49 PM PDT
by
Drew68
To: john mirse
This Missouri law, on the other hand, will make the presidential eligibility rules clearer for all future presidential candidates in Missouri beginning in 2016, whether the candidate is a Democrat or a Republican.Have you read the bill? If you haven't there is a link at reply #5 with a small snippet.
There's more to this bill than just birth certificates!
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posted on
03/29/2012 4:05:33 PM PDT
by
philman_36
(Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty, and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
To: john mirse
Be sure and take particular note to the USC 8, which is titled ALIENS AND NATIONALITY, aspect of the bill.
Positive law and natural law.
Please let me know what you think about it after reading the bill.
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posted on
03/29/2012 4:11:54 PM PDT
by
philman_36
(Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty, and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
To: Free ThinkerNY
Get back to me when they pass a law requiring forensic analysis of each candidates birth certificate and each candidates parents birth certificate.
To: 1_Rain_Drop
Interesting. That is nothing like my photocopy of my birth certificate. Wonder why it is not on the web? I had to send away for mine to the state I was born (at cost) when I was very young (maybe early teens) and it is nothing like his shown on the net.
At his age, it should have been a photocopy with much more information. Something is wrong here...
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posted on
03/29/2012 4:31:27 PM PDT
by
Deagle
To: Deagle
Oh, and yes, it had the seal of the state that provided the certificate - embeded!
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posted on
03/29/2012 4:36:00 PM PDT
by
Deagle
To: john mirse; philman_36
This proposed bill essentially changes the meaning of NBC from that which was understood by the founders. It is a knock-off of a similar bill that failed IIRC in AZ.
Ask yourself whether this bill allows an anchor baby to be eligible for the presidency. If you can see that, then ask whether that is what the founders would have intended for our CinC.
Only a statute that calls for proof of citizen parents as well as birthplace will satisfy the founder’s requirement.
Anything short of that effectively reinforces the mess we now have.
To: philman_36
I read the other thread and links.
It’s utterly worthless, or worse - designed to placate “birthers” and look like they’re “doing something about it” when they are not. It’s not stupidity, it’s by design, and since so many legislators are fools, it’s meant to trick idiots and the uninformed.
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posted on
03/29/2012 5:05:11 PM PDT
by
little jeremiah
(We will have to go through hell to get out of hell. Signed, a fanatic)
To: Free ThinkerNY; Berlin_Freeper; Hotlanta Mike; Silentgypsy; repubmom; HANG THE EXPENSE; Nepeta; ...
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posted on
03/29/2012 5:34:20 PM PDT
by
null and void
(Day 1164 of America's ObamaVacation from reality [Heroes aren't made, Frank, they're cornered...])
To: little jeremiah
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