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1 posted on 03/29/2012 5:59:36 PM PDT by agee
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And this embarrassing mental colossus is on the bench of the Supreme Court for the next 30 years. God help the United States.


2 posted on 03/29/2012 6:03:53 PM PDT by Lawgvr1955 (You can never have too much cowbell !!)
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If one uses as a standard the intellectual arguments articulated in the debates of the 1787 Convention, and among the participants debating ratification of the proposed U. S. Constitution throughout the States in 1787-88, then what an embarrassing look into the mind and thought process of current Justice Kagan!

Justice Breyer's nonsensical musings, when combined with those of Justice Kagan, should alarm every citizen who cherishes the Constitution's underlying principles, as articulated and explained by America's Founders and Framers of that Constitution's protections for liberty.

My post from another thread related to Kagan:

"Kagan: "'The exact same argument so, so that really reduces to the question of: why is a big gift from the federal government a matter of coercion?
"'In other words, the federal government is here saying: we’re giving you a boatload of money. There are no, is no matching funds requirement. There are no extraneous conditions attached to it.
"'It’s just a boatload of federal money for you to take and spend on poor people’s healthcare. It doesn’t sound coercive to me, I have to tell you.'"

This statement tells us everything we need to know about Justice Kagan's concept of "coercive power" versus "individual liberty" and the Constitution's protections for the latter.

America's Founders viewed "government" as "coercive" by nature.

America's Founders understood that "government" creates no money, has no money, and cannot "gift" money without first "taking" it from someone--a "coercive" act in itself.

Besides, this "boatload of money" is not "federal money." It is "the People's" money, and who is naive or uninformed enough to believe that "taking" it from the people, sending it to Washington, and then doling it out to the States is an efficient way to provide "poor people's health care"????

Oh, how far we have come from the genius and wisdom which gave birth to America's Constitution, America's liberty for all, and America's prosperity and greatness!!!

I hope that these members of the Supreme Court will understand that future generations of Americans and individuals all over the world, given the new technologies which enable them to study the Founders' ideas, will judge them by the Framers' standards, not by the standards of the so-called "progressive" politicians in this Administration.

"Ideas have Consequences" (Weaver). America's Founders' ideas produced freedom, opportunity, prosperity and plenty for hundreds of millions of oppressed people.

The "progressives'" ideas of redistribution (socialism) have produced approaching tyranny and oppression, mediocrity, and want, in every society where they have been tried.

4 posted on 03/29/2012 6:11:22 PM PDT by loveliberty2
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1. Maybe Kagan realizes Bernacke will just print the money used to pay the states. So it is free (monopoly) money.

2. Maybe the role of the states is not to protect the freedoms of its residents and not to accept free bribes to abridge the freedoms of the people.


5 posted on 03/29/2012 6:15:25 PM PDT by spintreebob
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They are supposed to be deciding whether its Constitutional, not if its a “good idea” or “wehats wrong with free money?”

What a mental midget.

What a moron.

She has no business being on SCOTUS


8 posted on 03/29/2012 6:25:07 PM PDT by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Pursue Happiness)
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...a boatload of federal money...

So, is that what Miss Piggy thinks of my taxpayer dollars? That "federal money" has been stolen from Americans.

9 posted on 03/29/2012 6:26:15 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (It's time to WEAN the government off of our money.)
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He said it would depend on where that money came from...and how long it lasted - the fed money is only startup money, and gradually decreases over a few years until the states are left holding the bag for the full amount of Medicaid - same thing happened with community mental health programs - lots of money from the feds to open outpatient clinics, but when the money stream ended in a couple of years, so did most of the clinics - at least in any effective form - that's why so many mental patients are sleeping under bridges today......
11 posted on 03/29/2012 6:30:22 PM PDT by Intolerant in NJ
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Sales people must love her.

“It’s all free ma’am. We’ll take the price out of your paycheck so you don’t have to pay anything!”


12 posted on 03/29/2012 6:35:29 PM PDT by mrsmith (Dumb sluts: Lifeblood of the Media, Backbone of the Democrat Party!)
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The quasi communist Kagan (and she's not only communist but arrogant and superficial) has no notion of liberty or even of basic right. The only value for her is, "what are you getting"? And if you're getting a lot of money from the government, which the government has expropriated from other people (or even from yourself), then you happily give the government complete control over your existence and you have no complaints. In Kagan's book, you are "free," because the government is supporting you. And this has always been the communist definition of freedom. The Communists said that Americans were not free, because all of our needs weren't taken care of. But now, as Pelosi says, we are truly free for the first time, we are finally putting the Declaration of Independence truly into effect, because now people can pursue their dreams and desires--quit work, be an artist--without having to worry about losing their health insurance.

Also, this shows how liberals-leftists believe that once you get any support from the government, no matter how small, they already own you, and you have no right to object to any further expansion of government power. Once you receive, say, Social Security, you have no right to object to the government taking over the entire health insurance industry, and then the entire economy. In the leftists' book, if you receive any government benefit, and you object to Obamacare, or to totally subsidized birth control and sterilization, or to sex change operations for criminal illegal aliens, you are a hypocrite.

Our Republic is in great peril. God save us.

17 posted on 03/29/2012 7:01:11 PM PDT by Daffynition (Our forefathers would be shooting by now.)
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Hope you enjoy the strip! My first thought when reading the transcript was of an ourobourous-type snake eating it’s own tail. I think this is a bit more accessible, and I LOVE Kagan as a waitress in a greasy spoon. Though I doubt she’s cut out for that kind of work either.

SG


23 posted on 03/29/2012 7:49:25 PM PDT by stevegraff
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OBAMA BACK ATCHA, BACK ATCHA' BARACK
24 posted on 03/29/2012 8:03:23 PM PDT by FrankR
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““Wow! Wow!” Kagan exclaimed in wonderment. “I’m offering you $10 million a year to come work for me and you are saying this is anything but a great choice?” Clement sharply replied, “Sure, if I told you, actually it came from my own bank account.”

Ownage!


26 posted on 03/29/2012 8:13:52 PM PDT by Henry Hnyellar
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Butch Kagan, please contemplate the legality of this issue whilst you take a lunch break enjoying the views from Ft. Marcy Park!


33 posted on 03/29/2012 9:29:04 PM PDT by Noob1999 (Loose Lips, Sink Ships)
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34 posted on 03/29/2012 9:45:18 PM PDT by thouworm (.)
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“Wow! Wow!” Kagan exclaimed in wonderment. “I’m offering you $10 million a year to come work for me and you are saying this is anything but a great choice?” Clement sharply replied, “Sure, if I told you, actually it came from my own bank account.”

Clement makes a GREAT Foghorn - Kagan, a PERFECT Dawg

36 posted on 03/29/2012 11:52:36 PM PDT by Lmo56 (If ya wanna run with the big dawgs - ya gotta learn to piss in the tall grass ...)
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“It’s just a boatload of federal money for you to take and spend,” said Justice Looter.


38 posted on 03/30/2012 6:02:13 AM PDT by Lady Lucky
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