Posted on 03/29/2012 9:23:35 PM PDT by sukhoi-30mki
International Debut for the Russian T-90MS Tank Upgrade at DefExpo 2012
The centerpiece of the Russian display at Defexpo 2012 is undoubtedly the T-90MS upgrade program developed by the Russian Uralvagonzavod corporation. The T-90MS upgrade was unveiled August 2011 at Nizhny Tagil, Russia following the demise of the T-95 program. It is making its international debut here in New Delhi. India is likely to be the most interested in the the Russian upgrade, put forward by Russian arms exporter Rosoboronexport as a possible upgrade path for the Indian ‘Brishna’ (T-90S) tanks.
India is the largest operator of the T-90S, along with Russia. The Indian Army has fielded about 450 of these tanks, with 300 more on order. Other T-90 operators are Azerbaijan, Cyprus (45) and Venezuela (92). Earlier in 2012 it was announced that Algeria has bought 120 of these tanks.Additional 30 were acquired by Turkmenistan. These small deliveries could be the result of the collapse of the Libyan order, which was never fulfilled.
The Indian Army had planned to equip its 59 armored regiments with 1,657 T-90S main battle tanks, 1,000 of which were to be Indian-made. However, production and import of T-90S tanks has been slow, hence, the opportunity to improve the T-90 through the manufacturing line, maintaining the T-90 effectiveness for upcoming years. The T-90MS offers improvements in every important element – protection, mobility and firepower, in addition to improving sustainability and reliability while reducing operating cost. Since the contract was signed back in 2001 the Indian Heavy Vehicle Factory (HVF) in Avadi, Chennai has assembled only 150 T-90S (of a thousand planned). Implementing the T-90MS package will enable future production series to deliver better, more capable main battle tanks instead of gradually obsoleting platforms.
The proposed tank upgrades include improved automotive components, enhanced protection by
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If you mean “Russian’’, whom are you talking about? The roughly 65% of the population who are Caucasian, as I mean? I doubt very much the other 35% feel about “Rodina’’ as the typical “Ivan’’ does. Stalin saw to that.
I think most of the population are still identify themself to Russians, no matter what ethnicity they are. It is in American interest to keep this way. Russia is a natural ally.
They are a sole superpower of the time who has supported US independence. They were the most valuable ally against nazism and they are the most valuable ally against islam and China.
We have to leave his stupid zero sum game, it is not in an interest of both nations.
When comparing American and Russian weaponry, Americans always love to talk about Iraq war which was totally one sided, but never talk about India-Pakistan war which was more or less evenly matched and American weaponry got absolutely wasted.
The best Soviet military hardware has always yet to be proven in battle.
Natural ally!?! What freakin’ planet are you living on? Russia was an ally’’ in WW2 only by circumstance. Don’t forget that up until June of ‘41 they were allies of Nazi Germany.’ They were our ‘’natural ally’’ during fifty years of the Cold War? Ally’’ my foot. Putin and a long line of Russkie commies did all they could to put an end to us. ‘’Ally’’. What a joke. Didn’t you catch Obamas ‘’open mike’’ gaff? That little Marxist s.o.b. is getting ready to sell us out to our ‘’ally’’.
I take it, you never read anything about India-Pakistan wars.
Look up the definition of a “Saracen’’. Having the will to fight is a motivating factor in winning a war. Whats the sub-text you’re trying to get across pal, you got a soft spot for the Russkies?
Look up the definition of a “Saracen’’. Having the will to fight is a motivating factor in winning a war. Whats the sub-text you’re trying to get across pal, you got a soft spot for the Russkies?
Sar·a·cen Show Spelled[sar-uh-suhn] Show IPA
noun
1. History/Historical . a member of any of the nomadic tribes on the Syrian borders of the Roman Empire.
2. (in later use) an Arab.
3. a Muslim, especially in the period of the Crusades.
adjective
4. Also, Sar·a·cen·ic Show Spelled[sar-uh-sen-ik] Show IPA, Sar·a·cen·i·cal. of or pertaining to the Saracens.
Dunno about “soft spot”. I just dont share your retarded world view that every Russian weaponry is piece of scrap metal. Indians using Russian “scrap metal” have kicked Pakistani butt along with their hi-tech American weaponry.
Number 3 ‘’Muslim’’. A hat-tip to my Crusader ancestors. I didn’t say “Saracen’’ ‘’ meant a Pakistani so twist the issue. Indians fighting Pakis with Russian made crap is a lot different from any other country fighting American made systems manned by Americans. Seems to me you’re the one with a ‘’retarded’’ world view.
The word “Saracen” in most common usage denotes an Arab from the time of the Crusades....regardless of whatever way you want to twist or stretch the definition.
The point is ......when Americans fight with American weaponry and with overwhelming military superiority against puny enemies it is not really a good example where you can judge the relative superiority of one equipment over the other.......hence your retarded world view.......which more then one poster on this thread tried to fix and failed.
” Seems to me you’re the one with a ‘’retarded’’ world view.”
The key phrase being....”Seems to me”
And lastly the Crusades was the one time when the “Saracens” actually kicked butts.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>Natural ally!?! What freakin’ planet are you living on? Russia was an ally’’ in WW2 only by circumstance. Don’t forget that up until June of ‘41 they were allies of Nazi Germany.’ They were our ‘’natural ally’’ during fifty years of the Cold War? Ally’’ my foot. Putin and a long line of Russkie commies did all they could to put an end to us. ‘’Ally’’. What a joke. Didn’t you catch Obamas ‘’open mike’’ gaff? That little Marxist s.o.b. is getting ready to sell us out to our ‘’ally’’.>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
To bring things into perspective you have to note Russians has backed Spanish Republicans against nazy-socialist element backed by Germans during Spanish Civil War. It was one bloody war in ‘30s with Russians and Germans involved from both sides. And prior to ‘39 Russians were seeking French-British alliance to take on nazy. Neither British nor French agreed to take on Hitler and paid for thet later. Soviets and Hitler weren’t allies by definition. It was a non-agression pact. Initially Russians took over Poland, Baltic states and Moldova as a buffer zone against Germans.
And as for a Cold War it was a pretty little episode in terms of long human history.
The majority of Russians hates communism right now, they are white Christian nation with a lot of interests corelated to US interests. A few other major nations like that left.
It is pretty enough to be a good alliance to me instead of playing zero sum games from both sides.
They did until they were defeated. Check out Charles Martel and Vlad Tepes,aka “Vlad the Impaler’’. Got a soft spot for them too, eh? You may have noted but this is not a Saracen-friendly web-site. What ails you dude? You’re contrary to just about everything I say.
Pal, you’ve sure got some screwy version of history. The “Cold War’’ was a ‘’pretty little episode in human history’’. You mean in duration of time? Yeah, sure, ok. Fifty freakin’ years. Right. Let me guess, you’re Russian?
A Saracen is a Muslim. Pakistan did not exist during the time of the Crusades.
Nazi Germany and Imperial Japan weren’t ‘’puny enemies’’. You got some problem with America or what?
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