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High-speed rail plan slashes costs to calm critics
SFGate.com ^
| 4/1/12
| Michael Cabanatuan
Posted on 04/01/2012 2:14:16 PM PDT by NormsRevenge
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Pinch me. It's April Fools , right?
a pig in a poke is a pig in a poke..
no matter how much ya liposuction fat off of it.
To: NormsRevenge
They changed the number. They're using a different number when they talk about the price tag.
I'm sure they changed the cost at all.
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posted on
04/01/2012 2:15:59 PM PDT
by
ClearCase_guy
(Like Emmett Till, Trayvon Martin has become simply a stick with which to beat Whites.)
To: ClearCase_guy
Should be: I’m not sure they changed the cost.
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posted on
04/01/2012 2:16:42 PM PDT
by
ClearCase_guy
(Like Emmett Till, Trayvon Martin has become simply a stick with which to beat Whites.)
To: GeronL
Willie Green Memorial Ping.
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posted on
04/01/2012 2:18:57 PM PDT
by
Army Air Corps
(Four Fried Chickens and a Coke)
To: NormsRevenge
State transportation officials have slashed the price tag for California's controversial high-speed rail project by $30 billion
Seems to me that if they're able to do that, then people should be asking why it was $30 billion more in the first place. Somebody is running a scam.
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posted on
04/01/2012 2:19:25 PM PDT
by
cripplecreek
(What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
To: cripplecreek
Somebody is running a scam.
Bingo!
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posted on
04/01/2012 2:21:57 PM PDT
by
Army Air Corps
(Four Fried Chickens and a Coke)
To: NormsRevenge
They are going to use existing commuter tracks for high speed rail. Yeah that ought to work just fine. Why didn't they think of that earlier?/s
To: NormsRevenge
"State transportation officials have slashed the price tag made up new cost estimates for California's controversial high-speed rail project, by which are $30 billion less than the previous low-ball estimates ...."
To: NormsRevenge
State transportation officials have slashed the price tag for California's controversial high-speed rail project by $30 billion and expanded the first stretch of track to run from Merced in the Central Valley south to the San Fernando Valley in Los Angeles. LOL, they have lied from the get-go (to the voters), and they are clearly just lying now (with multiply compound lies).
They lied about the costs, initially, and they lied about the jobs it would create (and, the big big jobs IIRC have gone out-of-state and also to china).
This is corruption and graft, in their most clearly visible and heinous forms.
Lies are bad things. Lies that convince voters to take money from working people to support fraudulent schemes are bad things. Lies that are developed in committees by conspiring individuals are bad things. Lies about the previous lies are still bad things.
Bernie Madeoff has nothing on these people.
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posted on
04/01/2012 2:27:58 PM PDT
by
Seaplaner
(Never give in. Never give in. Never...except to convictions of honour and good sense. W. Churchill)
To: NormsRevenge
They know they can give us any number they want, the enormous cost overruns are already a given.
To: cripplecreek
Somebody is running a scam.”
One of the best things that could happen IMO is for there to be a law that no project can be started unless it can be fully funded, completed and in full operation during the current supporter’s term of office.
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posted on
04/01/2012 2:33:04 PM PDT
by
Grams A
(The Sun will rise in the East in the morning and God is still on his throne.)
To: NormsRevenge
What a joke. A few weeks back, it doubled from $50B to $100B. Then they found $100B made the public gag and think we’ve been robbed. So today they conveniently find a way to lop off $30 and take it back to $70B.
On the face of it, this proves that HSR proponents are liars, charlatans, cheats, connivers, schemers, mountebanks, crooks and thieves.
To: NormsRevenge
It’s not a train to nowhere - it’s a train to Merced.
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posted on
04/01/2012 3:02:37 PM PDT
by
eclecticEel
(Life, Liberty, and the Pursuit of Happiness: 7/4/1776 - 3/21/2010)
To: NormsRevenge
Can you say, “bait and switch”, boys and girls? I knew you could.
To: NormsRevenge
High speed rail on old tracks becomes low speed rail.
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posted on
04/01/2012 3:20:51 PM PDT
by
driftdiver
(I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
To: NormsRevenge
The 2008 voters approved LA to SF in 2.5 hours.
If the plan does not produce that, deal off.
This will never happen. There’s no market to justify it. Put high speed service within the LA basin as a first step. They can sell millions of trips for Riverside to Long Leach, Van Nuys to Anaheim if on a high speed transportation mode.
Trips of 400 miles in Europe are generally by air. There are exceptions, but the cost makes a high speed rail trip an expense account frill. The masses go by air.
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posted on
04/01/2012 4:05:39 PM PDT
by
cicero2k
To: NormsRevenge; Grampa Dave; Carry_Okie; calcowgirl; tubebender; hedgetrimmer; forester; ...
Hey! It's still the most monuMentally STUPID IDEA because the CA Dems have already squandered everybodys tax dollars and ruined our state's credit worthyness!!!
Screw Jerry brown to the pavement about 10 miles from the CA State Crapitol!!! (like in the people's republic of davis)
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posted on
04/01/2012 5:56:03 PM PDT
by
SierraWasp
(Negativity must die because it's self-fulfilling!!!)
To: Army Air Corps; All
I kinda miss old Willie Green..
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posted on
04/01/2012 7:58:34 PM PDT
by
KevinDavis
(Go Mitt Go!!!)
To: KevinDavis
He did provide quite a bit of amusement. It didn’t take much for him to launch into ad hominem attacks and rants about peak oil.
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posted on
04/01/2012 8:12:12 PM PDT
by
Army Air Corps
(Four Fried Chickens and a Coke)
To: driftdiver
High speed rail on old tracks becomes low speed rail. And totally hoses the existing slower service that people are relying on now in many areas, such as Caltrain on the SF Peninsula.
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