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Two arrested in brutal hammer beating in Seminole
Orlando Sentinel ^ | April 2, 2012 | Gary Taylor

Posted on 04/03/2012 10:38:24 AM PDT by maggief

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To: hoosiermama
-- Think the "murky details" might be cleared up with forensic test revealed --

Well, I was referring to the murk of Zimmerman's story, which hasn't been told to us directly. We have his father and brother speaking. We also don;t have George's statements and recordings during the hours of questioning immediately following the shooting.

I agree that forensic evidence would either support or contradict his story; most likely support it because the police had the forensic evidence as they questioned Zimmerman, and they had no concern, that I am aware of (other than this rumor that Serino had a different opinion), that Zimmerman's narrative and forensic evidence had any contradiction.

-- Until that information is released, people can/will speculate. --

Of course. Nothing odd or wrong about that. The impression I wanted to leave was that Zimmerman didn't shoot because his head was getting smashed - he shot because Martin mounted a credible threat to shoot him, with Zimmerman's own gun.

41 posted on 04/03/2012 11:33:26 AM PDT by Cboldt
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To: maggief

Too bad the victim was probably a liberal, being unarmed.

Kel-tec P3AT loaded with hollow points, made in FL, guaranteed for life. My amex card. You don’t even know it’s in your pocket.


42 posted on 04/03/2012 11:39:30 AM PDT by bicyclerepair ( REPLACE D-W-S ! http://www.karenforcongress.com)
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To: Gabz

Exactly. The slantinel isn’t called the slantinel for nuthin’. They are as big a set of race baiters as Sharpton, obama, et al.


43 posted on 04/03/2012 11:40:07 AM PDT by spacejunkie2001
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To: spacejunkie2001; maggief
With Sanford history, I agree with the newspaper to play down race issue as much as possible. That area has been a powder keg since 2005 waiting for a match.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sanford_Police_Department_(Florida)

They leave out the other incident mentioned in the Zimmerman family member's letter where George was supporting the black community in insisting that the son of a police Lt, who had beaten a homeless black, be arrested.

Tension was high before the death of Martin. Cool heads need to look at just the facts in his death, unfortunately because of the two previous incident people in the community do not trust LEO to do the right thing. GZ ironically is the scapegoat for the dysfunctional community.
The REV MSM and lawyer race baiters are throwing gas on the flame. A paper trying to minimize the issue is good IMO.

44 posted on 04/03/2012 11:40:40 AM PDT by hoosiermama (Stand with God anhttp://sanfordfl.gov/inved Sarah, the Gipper and Newt will be standing next to you.)
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To: Cboldt; hoosiermama; kristinn; All

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45 posted on 04/03/2012 11:42:17 AM PDT by maggief
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To: hoosiermama

I live here. There is no brewing racial tension at all. The beating of the homeless man happened quite some time ago and never garnered a FRACTION of the attention that this obama/race issue is.


46 posted on 04/03/2012 11:45:27 AM PDT by spacejunkie2001
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To: kjo

If someone compiled a list of crimes where the victims were white and the perps black and put it next to a list where the victims were black and the perps white, I wonder which one would be longer.

How about the elderly couple in Tulsa who were attacked by black “teens”. The woman (85) was raped and beaten and died the next day. Her husband (90) was beaten but recovered, at least for now.

Then there was the white boy in KC attacked by black teens saying the white boy got what he deserved. They doused him with gasoline and set him on fire. He recovered.

If Al and Jesse want to play this game, then let’s look at the evidence.


47 posted on 04/03/2012 11:45:51 AM PDT by Pining_4_TX ( The state is the great fiction by which everybody seeks to live at the expense of everybody else. ~)
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To: spacejunkie2001

http://www.wesh.com/r/30817409/detail.html

Julius Bender, 18, and Yahaziel Israel, 19, are charged with attempted homicide, burglary with assault or battery and armed burglary in connection with the March 26 beating.

Officials said the two beat the 50-year-old victim with a hammer inside his vehicle.

The pair then took him to a wooded area near Beardall Avenue and Lincoln Street and continued beating him, said deputies.


48 posted on 04/03/2012 11:49:54 AM PDT by maggief
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To: maggief

Got a translator?

What is 4s Up?


49 posted on 04/03/2012 11:51:11 AM PDT by hoosiermama (Stand with God anhttp://sanfordfl.gov/inved Sarah, the Gipper and Newt will be standing next to you.)
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To: maggief
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Media Image of Perps

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50 posted on 04/03/2012 11:52:21 AM PDT by Jeff Chandler (I tried to buy a hoodie today but the store manager said they had all been shoplifted.)
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To: maggief

what’s this?

by the way, here’s the last response from the reporter:

I doubt this will ever be classified a hate crime because I don’t think the victim will survive.


51 posted on 04/03/2012 12:00:47 PM PDT by spacejunkie2001
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To: hoosiermama

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Yahaziel Israel

f*ck the police they got a n**** streesin cant even live rite

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52 posted on 04/03/2012 12:03:04 PM PDT by maggief
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To: spacejunkie2001
You live there, you probably have a handle on the situation. Found two articles that mentioned the two incidents as rationale for questioning the police on the Zimmerman release. Maybe others in the community paid more attention to the issues than you did. Are there people in the AA community that are not trustful and/or holding a grudge that you don't know, that are not confidants of yours?

Zimmerman was involved. According to the family letter he was the only non-AA to attend the community meeting where concerns were voiced, where the insistence for the arrest of the LT son was demanded. He understood there was a problem and tried to help. Denial takes many forms.

At least the community now needs to have an open dialog among themselves without the interference of the REV, MSM etc. Salute the police department and state in temp replacing members of their staff to help defuse the issue.

53 posted on 04/03/2012 12:05:14 PM PDT by hoosiermama (Stand with God anhttp://sanfordfl.gov/inved Sarah, the Gipper and Newt will be standing next to you.)
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To: spacejunkie2001

Are the beatings of the homeless man and the 50 year-old victim two separate cases?


54 posted on 04/03/2012 12:06:59 PM PDT by maggief
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To: maggief

Read the comments after this story. Whew, people are mad as hell and are not going to take it any more. Obama must want a race war.


55 posted on 04/03/2012 12:16:27 PM PDT by Pining_4_TX ( The state is the great fiction by which everybody seeks to live at the expense of everybody else. ~)
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To: maggief

yes. The 50 year old man was pulled from his vehicle just in the last week or so, and beaten almost to death. He apparently will not live.

The homeless situation happened 3 yrs ago or so.


56 posted on 04/03/2012 12:17:38 PM PDT by spacejunkie2001
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To: maggief
Yes, Homeless man was black beaten by white son of police LT. No charges filed but there was a video of the actual incident. Until pressure was put on LEO thru media no arrest. Zimmerman helped: attended meetings, pass out fliers at the black churches etc. to get community organized. One of the articles last night said that the same officer was in charge of that case that is in charge of the Martin/Zimmerman case. Someone somewhere are connecting the wrong dots.

They don't know his support of the community or that Zimmerman has many AA friends (one article also said family member) He tutors both AA and Hispanic male youth. He was involved in trying to make a difference. He was involved in his community, not just as Captain of Neighborhood Watch.

57 posted on 04/03/2012 12:22:07 PM PDT by hoosiermama (Stand with God anhttp://sanfordfl.gov/inved Sarah, the Gipper and Newt will be standing next to you.)
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To: Pining_4_TX

DRUDGE has it up.

Almost 500 comments, very angry and one-sided.


58 posted on 04/03/2012 12:31:47 PM PDT by maggief
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To: Pining_4_TX

DRUDGE has it up.

Almost 500 comments, very angry and one-sided.


59 posted on 04/03/2012 12:34:21 PM PDT by maggief
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To: RushIsMyTeddyBear

Da’ better be’s spell-checkin’ in Ebonics, baby!;)


60 posted on 04/03/2012 8:07:02 PM PDT by Frank_2001
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