Posted on 04/06/2012 2:08:05 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
The corrupt, crooked, decrepit GOP-E is going down the same path as the old Whigs.
The GOPe REWARDS Romney for his backstabbing
Gov Palin and her children through surrogates in 2008.
=== WILL NOT VOTE FOR A TICKET WITH RINO ROMNEY
and WILL WORK AGAINST IT. =====================
RINO$ got us RINORomney.
Just like Ford, Dole, McNutt...............
We’re screwed.
Again.
We The Few
We The Controllers
I’m with Amy. If we don’t fix this and clean our own house, we will never move forward or win from here.
Here in Pa., the GOP elite have decided that Steve Welch should be the candidate (even though he worked on the Sestak campaign....egad.) This is happeneing at all levels not just the national scale. We need to expose them, root them out and shut them down...or at least diminish their influence. I’m up to Here with this garbage.
They’ll not get one thin dime from me this year. They’ll not get one moment of my time.
In fact, I’ll probably work for a 3rd party candidate to defeat the 2 liberals running on the major party tickets.
In my case, Perry, Gingrich, and Santorum have gotten money from me, and the GOP has in the past.
This year they get my animosity instead.
I didn’t leave the Republican Party.....the Party “LEFT” me.
After returning the money requests several times with a clear statement of how disappointed I am with rinos and their ilk, the RNC has finally stopped bothering me. Who would have thougt? I will be voting only for conservatives at all levels. I will only donate directly to conservatives.
It's almost as though they shrug their shoulders and murmur, "who cares what he does to the people or the country" as long as he serves our needs.
A political party cannot be all things to all people. It must represent certain fundamental beliefs which must not be compromised to political expediency, or simply to swell its numbers. - Ronald Reagan's 1975 CPAC Speech
Mark for later.
Does anyone have the hard totals of all votes cast, and for who?
I would like to see the raw numbers if they are available.
http://www.thegreenpapers.com/P12/
That is the same link as in Post #1.
Click on the state abbreviations at the top of the graph.
You can get all the information of popular vote, hard delegates, soft (uncommitted) delegates and the GOP state party rules for each.
Your conclusion may well be, contrived chaos.
I was hoping someone had totaled them up already for the states that had voted, me being lazy and all...
Now that Romney is much closer to wrapping up the nomination, they can afford the luxury of “taking it seriously”. Their work is done.
Exactly why I posted this article; they're counting on "lazy -- someone else tell me" voters.
".......For example, the committee agrees that some states that went for Romney jumped the line in the primary schedule, a violation of party rules. But RNC defenders shrug off other complaints, like that they undercut Santorum and Gingrich by formatting a delegate tracking list to pad Romney’s tally, by forming a fundraising alliance this week with Romney and by highlighting a rule that would block an unlikely path to the nomination for Gingrich."....
YOU have to look up the numbers, not take the AP numbers or the GOP numbers or the campaign numbers --- YOU need to do some math.
It won't take long (or much looking) to see this is such a total mess that it had to be setup for mischief.
“Bob Dole had more charisma! Romney comes across as a weird poser as he tries to portray “regular kinda guy” on the trail.”
You mean you don’t think the stiff-old-man walk up to the microphone wearing blue jeans, button-down collar shirt with rolled-up sleeves looks cool?
His jeans are hiked up to his armpits and they have a visible crease.. Who irons their jeans? MITTENS!
Newt Gingrich is going after unpledged delegates - "soft" delegates that haven't committed in primaries already completed, including all the PA (72) and MT (26) and (IL (69) delegates, since these delegates remain unpledged regardless of primary vote.
AND though there are going to be some “winner take all” primaries, the following contests are also on the schedule:
RI (16) proportional
NY (92) proportional
WVA (28) proportional -- elect delegates (who list their presidential pick on ballot)
NC (52) proportional
OR (25) proportional
AK (33) proportional
KY (42) proportional
TX (155) proportional
CA (169) proportional (by district)
NM (20) proportional
SD (25) proportional
The Green Papers Contested delegates: …. “delegates have to be "uncontested" in order to count. The frontrunner's rivals argue some of the states that awarded Romney all of their delegates violated Republican National Committee rules when they moved their contests ahead of April 1 and therefore should distribute delegates proportionally. This dispute, if it continues, would not be ruled on until the August convention in Tampa.
"All the media counts right now give him all of Florida, which is against the rules, all of Arizona, which is against the rules, and all of Idaho," Gingrich said Monday. "Those are all three proportional states and they should only be counting his share. So he has to win 1,144 uncontested delegates."
FL: 50 delegates
ID: 32 delegates
AZ: 29 delegates the RNC wants the primaries/caucuses calendar set, so they penalized states half of their delegates if they moved their state's date up in the queue.
Regarding "winner take all" in these same states moving their primaries before March 6th:
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Jan 30, 2012 "So the winner on Tuesday gets all of Florida’s 50 delegates to the GOP convention, right? It says so right in the Republican Party of Florida primary rules.
Eh . . . probably. You see, the Republican National Committee wanted the primary season to start later (that didn’t work out so well) and they wanted the early states to award their delegates proportionally. But those rules came about under Chairman Michael Steele; by the time Florida set its date, Reince Priebus was running the show, and the RNC approved the current winner-takes-all system. The Florida GOP says it’s a non-issue; the current RNC leadership has signed off on the winner-take-all system.
The Tampa Bay Times’s Adam Smith reports, “All it takes is a registered Florida Republican to file a protest with the RNC, and the party’s contest committee would have to consider the issue when it meets in August just before the convention.”
The party’s primary rules were intended to encourage a longer primary season, while ensuring that four smaller states — Iowa, New Hampshire, Nevada, and South Carolina — hold the first contests. Only those states were permitted to hold primaries or caucuses before March 6, the RNC decreed, while any state that held a contest prior to April 1 would award its delegates proportionally. Under the rules, any party that violated the sanctioned calendar would lose half its delegates and potentially face further penalties.
Republican leaders in Florida, determined to give the state a big say in picking the nominee, decided having their delegation slashed from 99 to 50 was worth it and set Florida’s primary for Jan. 31. The RNC has said Florida will be a winner-take-all primary, but that decision is still subject to challenge.
If tomorrow’s results are in line with recent polls, Mitt Romney will win 50 delegates and everyone else will win none. (Thus, Rick Santorum and Ron Paul spent a limited amount of time and resources in Florida.) But if it were proportional, Romney would win about 20-25, Gingrich would win about 14-16, Santorum would win about 5-7, and Paul would win 5-6.
In other words, Newt Gingrich may have enormous incentive to file protests and perhaps even legal challenges to the RNC to make Florida allocate its delegates proportionally."
I was really looking for the popular vote count so far, how many people voted for Romney, Gingrich, etc. I understand the delegate count is a total mess, I am just interested in the percentage of registered voters that cast a vote, and how those votes have broken down in the different states.
Normally I’m not a glass half empty kind of guy, but Romney has been chosen and will be the candidate whether we agree yet or not.
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