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April 10, 2012 | By Lazamataz

Posted on 04/10/2012 10:05:35 AM PDT by Lazamataz

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To: Lazamataz
Add the 'loaned backbones' of some seasoned, combat-experienced Generals,...

Remember what these generals did when Putin stuck it to Georgia, and consider...

1) Putin specifically engineered the Georgia operation to humiliate the US and NATO.

2) To deliver a object lesson to any European nation that would suck up to the US, aspire to join NATO, aspire to join the EU.

3) Used a justification identical to the US justification for the the rape of Serbia and Kosovo.

4) Secured all the oil and gas pipelines to Europe.

And the US did what?

Yep, them combat experienced generals will be real anxious to help out Zero.

121 posted on 04/10/2012 12:05:13 PM PDT by Navy Patriot (Join the Democrats, it's not Fascism when WE do it and the law is what WE say it is.)
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To: Lazamataz

All due respect, but I just can’t see Obama taking the offensive militarily versus the Persians. Dude has no spine when it comes to the military, and plus, it’ll alienate his leftist base big-time.


122 posted on 04/10/2012 12:06:21 PM PDT by Hemingway's Ghost (Spirit of '75)
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To: Lazamataz

The key that most FReepers forget: 90% of voters will split the vote regardless of who’s on the ticket. Seriously, you could run Mother Theresa vs. Cuthulu and they’d get a 45/45 split. Of the remaining 10% (could be a mere 5%, adjust math accordingly) to win one only need persuade 5.01% - and these are people who view both viable candidates as equal (otherwise they would be in the 90%+ category). Persuasion need not be total, it just need be a marginal preference. Classic techniques for garnering that marginal preference are (A) war, and (B) money: give ‘em a reason to not change mid-stream in something serious, and/or pay ‘em enough that they’ll be beholden to the candidate. The military is already chomping at the bit for a fight so however much our current POTUS dislikes such things he can just say “do it” out of political expediency and walk away, returning to his specialty of smokey backroom deals for buying votes via handing out large piles of money he has authority to give yet he’s not responsible for.


123 posted on 04/10/2012 12:10:37 PM PDT by ctdonath2 ($1 meals: http://abuckaplate.blogspot.com/)
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To: Hemingway's Ghost

He doesn’t need a spine.
He just needs to say “do it.”


124 posted on 04/10/2012 12:15:30 PM PDT by ctdonath2 ($1 meals: http://abuckaplate.blogspot.com/)
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To: Lazamataz; All
The antiwar hypocrites on the left won't allow #1 unless it's done via proxies. I do not expect War With Iran.

He will continue to spin gas prices, and plans to reduce them, but I expect they'll peak and fall in time for reelection. He isn't being hammered on gas prices like Bush because it's not part of the tiresome "Big Oil" narrative. It's all beyond his control, don't you know.

The kneejerk demagogic Trayvon stand is the very definition of low-grade racial warfare. The war on voter ID is another front in that strategy. The pressitute framework that criticism or facts about Obama's = racism is another. Many more of these divisive lines of attack ahead. The "historic" nature of his presidency is his Trump card. Based upon his objective record, if he were John F. Kerry, his reelection goose would be cooked. Generations of race card indoctrination by the Left's plantation mentality evangelists all but assure a first term mulligan for the golfer-in-chief.

Lies about the economy and cooked books are standards.

Occupy will be used against Romney. We've seen it all along, even this week Obama saying they couldn't afford Michelle not working despite his $162,000 a year salary. His salary put them well inside the top ten percent of all incomes and hers put them in the fabled top one percent.

He will run against a "do nothing Congress" despite the obstructionism of hooligan Harry Reid's Senate. The press and his campaign will depend upon an ignorance of the American People who will take "congress" as to mean the GOP-controlled House.

He will run against SCOTUS if the ObamaCare is struck down, in whole or in part. He will use it as reason he needs to be reelected: to ensure more fair and socially-minded justices are appointed to the High Court rather than right-wing extremists like Alito, Scalia or Thomas.

Lastly, as you mention, is the phony "war on women." Actress Park Overall (nurse on Empty Nest) is using that to launch her Tennessee Democrat bid for the U.S. Senate seat up for reelection in November. There is no candidate taking away contraception, not even senator sanctimonious. This was settled by the Supreme Court 7-2, almost 50 years ago, that states cannot ban contraception (Griswold v. CT). The modern "debate" is all about who pays. We know birth control using women can pay $4/mo or even $10 for three months supply at outlets like Walmart even today. If contraception is your choice and you can't afford $3/mo, you have no business lying down with a man nor he with you.

There's high probability Obama is reelected; if he's not, I'll wonder if have reached the start of a post-racial period. I'd like to believe four more of Obama/Biden's not quite set in stone but I'm not bullish on GOP's chances even at keeping the House.

125 posted on 04/10/2012 12:18:08 PM PDT by newzjunkey (Newt says, "A nominee that depresses turnout won't beat Barack Obama.")
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To: ctdonath2
The key that most FReepers forget: 90% of voters will split the vote regardless of who’s on the ticket. Seriously, you could run Mother Theresa vs. Cuthulu and they’d get a 45/45 split.

!!!!!

Exactamundo.

Reminds me of a line from the Clash:

If Adolf Hitler flew in today, they'd send a limousine anyway.

126 posted on 04/10/2012 12:19:46 PM PDT by Hemingway's Ghost (Spirit of '75)
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To: ctdonath2
He doesn’t need a spine. He just needs to say “do it.”

Dig, but even then, a cold, calculating douche like Obama knows that if he does, he'll be putting his head in a noose, because then he'll be George Bush in Iraq. An all-out war with Iran will make Iraq look like amateur hour; we're talking a long, protracted war here. Drafts. Big-time deprivations back on the home front. Cats and dogs living together. Bye-bye lefty base, too, for coming to Israel's aid.

127 posted on 04/10/2012 12:25:53 PM PDT by Hemingway's Ghost (Spirit of '75)
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To: sueQ; All
WHITE HOUSE INSIDER: “Pump and Dump”

I’ve read the comments by people sayin’ they are conservative. If Romney gets the nomination…or if Gingrich gets the nomination…or if Santorum gets the nomination…whoever gets the f-cking nomination – they are sayin’ they won’t voter for them because “they’re just like Obama.” Really? Is that right? BULLSH-T. There ain’t nobody “just like Obama” people. Believe me. You ain’t got a f-cking clue if that’s what you really think. This country ain’t seen anybody reach the White House like Obama. Or more importantly – the people around Obama. The ones supporting and pushing Obama. Giving him the agenda, the words, the whole f-cking plan. So shut the hell up about not voting for the Republican because they are “just like Obama.” That kind of talk is comin’ from somebody who either is dumb as f-ck or is working for the campaign. The Obama campaign. And they are crawling all over your stupid Facebook thing. And leaving comments on your stories. I warned you about that. There’s gonna be more of it. A lot more. You hear somebody saying they won’t support the Republican because they are ”just like Obama” – you ignore that sh-t. It ain’t worth your time.

Any of these Republicans – ANY OF THEM, are a hell of an improvement over Barack Obama. If it’s Santorum, or Romney, or Gingrich, or Paul…you fall in line and you support that candidate and you vote Obama the f-ck out. That’s the goal. That’s your motivation. PERIOD. Because if you don’t do that…if you give this administration four more years…I’ve already said enough on that, right? It’s never going back…the country…this version of America is finished and I got no real idea as to how different it’s gonna be. We won’t recognize it – I know that. I was talking to a fella last week about the Senate…plans to take the Senate. Republicans. As a stop-gap, right? You know what he told me? Looked me straight in the eye and said – “It won’t matter. He has pushed executive authority so far already…it won’t matter. Give him a couple more Supreme Court nominees…it won’t matter. If he gets the White House again…IT WON’T MATTER.”


As much as I loathe Romney, I can't say I don't agree with WH Insider here...
128 posted on 04/10/2012 12:26:25 PM PDT by Lucky9teen (Peace is that brief glorious moment in history when everybody stands around reloading.~Thomas Jeffer)
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To: Lazamataz

I think I’m about resigned to your opinion as well.

With Rick dropping out and not asking for his delegates to pledge and support Newt we’re about done.

Unless Newt is wholey committed to a floor fight.

I’ve already heard these things from friends who are zombies.

When I frame the issues to what are real and not inventions they quiet down but I think the are hopeless and legion.

They don’t get that the fight on Health Care isn’t about health Care, rather that a government can impose its will on us and dictate how we live our live.


129 posted on 04/10/2012 12:38:41 PM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously, you won't live through it anyway)
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To: Lazamataz

I think I’m about resigned to your opinion as well.

With Rick dropping out and not asking for his delegates to pledge and support Newt we’re about done.

Unless Newt is wholey committed to a floor fight.

I’ve already heard these things from friends who are zombies.

When I frame the issues to what are real and not inventions they quiet down but I think the are hopeless and legion.

They don’t get that the fight on Health Care isn’t about health Care, rather that a government can impose its will on us and dictate how we live our live.


130 posted on 04/10/2012 12:39:08 PM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously, you won't live through it anyway)
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To: Hemingway's Ghost
Drafts. Big-time deprivations back on the home front.

[shrug] SOP for dictators. Remove part of the population (be it temporary or permanent), institute strict control of resources for whoever remains. Latter is tolerated because it "benefits" the former. Won't be so much for Israel's aid as to stand aloof and calm the antagonists to protect the world's needs - to wit, a war for oil.

Methinks you're making Laz's point for him.

131 posted on 04/10/2012 12:40:23 PM PDT by ctdonath2 ($1 meals: http://abuckaplate.blogspot.com/)
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To: Lazamataz

I think I’m about resigned to your opinion as well.

With Rick dropping out and not asking for his delegates to pledge and support Newt we’re about done.

Unless Newt is wholey committed to a floor fight.

I’ve already heard these things from friends who are zombies.

When I frame the issues to what are real and not inventions they quiet down but I think the are hopeless and legion.

They don’t get that the fight on Health Care isn’t about health Care, rather that a government can impose its will on us and dictate how we live our live.


132 posted on 04/10/2012 12:41:16 PM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously, you won't live through it anyway)
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To: Lazamataz

I think I’m about resigned to your opinion as well.

With Rick dropping out and not asking for his delegates to pledge and support Newt we’re about done.

Unless Newt is wholey committed to a floor fight.

I’ve already heard these things from friends who are zombies.

When I frame the issues to what are real and not inventions they quiet down but I think the are hopeless and legion.

They don’t get that the fight on Health Care isn’t about health Care, rather that a government can impose its will on us and dictate how we live our live.


133 posted on 04/10/2012 12:41:32 PM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously, you won't live through it anyway)
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To: Vendome

Newt announced his support for Romney over the week-end. That is probably what persuaded Santorum to drop out.


134 posted on 04/10/2012 12:41:52 PM PDT by Eva
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To: Night Hides Not

Sadly, moments after I posted, Santorum dropped out. Correct me if I am wrong, but it seems Romney is the GOP nominee. That is profoundly discouraging to me, and will take some time to digest.


135 posted on 04/10/2012 12:43:49 PM PDT by Defiant (If there are infinite parallel universes, why Lord, am I living in the one with Obama as President?)
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To: hosepipe

LOL

I too like the “Fighting Bitch” from Georgia ....

Uhm gunna cut yuh!!!


136 posted on 04/10/2012 12:50:49 PM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously, you won't live through it anyway)
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To: hosepipe

LOL

I too like the “Fighting Bitch” from Georgia ....

Uhm gunna cut yuh!!!


137 posted on 04/10/2012 12:51:24 PM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously, you won't live through it anyway)
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To: Hemingway's Ghost; Lazamataz
Dude has no spine when it comes to the military

The spineless little b@st@rd authorized military action on sovereign soil (Pakistan's) to get Osama. What makes you think he wouldn't threaten Iran if it suited his purpose?

Some say Hillary and Leon made the decision for him and then hauled his sorry @ss off the golf course in time to watch the raid. Could be true. And if an Iranian conflict suits their purpose to stay in power?

I don't put anything past them.

138 posted on 04/10/2012 12:59:45 PM PDT by BuckeyeTexan (Man is not free unless government is limited. ~Ronald Reagan)
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To: BuckeyeTexan

From one goofy n00b to another...


139 posted on 04/10/2012 1:16:19 PM PDT by r-q-tek86 ("It doesn't matter how smart you are if you don't stop and think" - Dr. Sowell)
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To: BuckeyeTexan
The spineless little b@st@rd authorized military action on sovereign soil (Pakistan's) to get Osama. What makes you think he wouldn't threaten Iran if it suited his purpose?

Granted, I hear where you're coming from, but I'm thinking that taking out the dude who masterminded 9/11 is one thing; taking on the entire sovereign nation of Iran is quite another. When Obama "took out" Osama, at least he could say "hey, I just did what George Bush couldn't do despite eight years of trying." But taking on Iran is a different kettle of fish. That, in my opinion, would require mobilizing the country on a near WWII level. We'd have to go on a real war footing as a nation.

And like cdonath2 said above, that might be making Laz's case right there, but I'd argue that the sort of mobilization war with Iran would require would be a hard sell among Obama's base. Is Obama a good enough salesman to make that case? Maybe yes, maybe no. God knows he'd have the media to make his case for him, a la the USS Maine, but . . .

. . . I just don't know. In my heart of hearts, I can't see it. Maybe you guys are right. All I do know is that we're approaching crunch time: BIG TIME.

And yeah, if we're actually tangled in an all-out war with Persia in four months, there's no way Obama is not re-elected.

140 posted on 04/10/2012 1:18:40 PM PDT by Hemingway's Ghost (Spirit of '75)
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