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To: roamer_1
Perfectly well said. Especially: The reason our country will 'never be what it was a few years back' is precisely because of fearful appeasers (pragmatists) electing liberal republicans like Romney who create absolutely *no* opposition to the liberalism that is throttling our nation. In what insane reality does voting for a liberal battle liberalism?

Bravo!

1,264 posted on 07/02/2012 1:34:36 AM PDT by Finny (A deal with the devil is ALWAYS a losing proposition. Voting for Romney to avoid Obama is just that.)
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1,264 posted on July 2, 2012 **********3:34:36 AM CDT********** by Finny (A deal with the devil is ALWAYS a losing proposition. Voting for Romney to avoid Obama is just that.)


Finny, is it a long night or are you the earliest riser I know?

I am starting to think that the left and the gop establishment are in collusion.  

Why did the establishment gop push Romney so hard? The left media pushes back on him, but not the rabid attacks that conservatives get; the attacks meant to permanently  take someone out.  Maybe the left recognizes other leftist and goes soft on them; not that they will let him beat Obama. The gop KNEW conservatives would be angry, yet did not care. I think they reasoned that Obama has moved so far left and since there is such a wide gap in values, they should move left and be more like him and the world, hoping to get those “precious” independents who they assume are left and not right. (Anyone remember hearing that the bulk of the voters are conservative? They just don't vote like they should)  For the gop-e it's only about winning and not standing up for the constitution and what is right. 

If romney wins I predict the gop will direct the party to do what Romney did in the past. SAY one thing; we're prolife, profamily.... fiscally conservative, but  DO another.  Like in the past Romney and the rino’s will  blame the left or say a judge made them do it.  They will have bills that look conservative, but when you look closely it will contain compromises that conservatives will abhor. 

I believe the gop-e wants socialized medicine, abortion, gay marriage, to allow amnesty for illegal immigrants....  but can't admit it. You have to wonder if Roberts has been compromised by politics.  If you take a closer look at his work, not to mention  healthcare and illegal immigration, you have to wonder if he was a plant.   On the immigration ruling, states can check people to see if they are legal, but it has no teeth because they gave all the real power to the federal government and as we all know; Obama is not enforcing the laws.  Roberts is ok with healthcare as long as it's called a tax. That really helps the gop-e frame healthcare as an emergency (never let a crisis go to waste is not only for the left. They will use it as a political weapon and ensure a Romney win.  After all this might scare those conservatives into finally voting for him. 

Also think about this.  In other countries socialism leads to high taxes (ok with Roberts). Politicians can work there way to the 75%  taxes other countries have.  It is POLITICIANS who will control all that money,  and think of the power it can wield. If they do the lobbyist bidding, they will be guaranteed reelection and special favors when they retire.  It will take a while before the Greece effect becomes reality and by then they will be out of office and the debt will be someone else’s problem. They will get what they want;  power and wealth.  To hell with the constitution, the debt, and  right and wrong. 

Rush,  Ann Coulter and most other on the right, talked about the gop-e either not getting invites to the elitist cocktail parties or when they did, they were embarrassed by us  prolife, pro family...conservatives.  You could tell during the primary that Rush wanted to really get behind Santorum, but something held him back; maybe his contract. It was obvious the talking heads all were directed to back Romney and repeat the matra; only Romney can win. They have turned into the very hypocrites they criticized. Also look at the top donors to Romney; Koch brothers- progay marriage, Adelson-proabortion and gay marriage. Why Romney? Ask the Log Cabin Republicans. His values are bought and paid for like they were in the primary.

The gop-e and romney has been able to hide romney's true actions and beliefs from most of the public. Will romney be able to call himself conservative while doing the opposite and get away with it? What will happen if and when the truth gets out? I think this election is setting stage for a third party that can change politics as we know it.

1,288 posted on 07/02/2012 1:12:03 PM PDT by Linda Frances (Woe to those who call evil good and good evil, who put darkness for light and light for darkness)
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