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To: Linda Frances
Do you believe that barry bastard fascist can succeed in collapsing the nation if he gets four more years to work at it? Do you believe the collapse is going to happen regardless of who sits int he Oval Office?

When I read reasoning like the following, I don't see where any alternative is contemplated. I see only all or nothing thinking:

If romney wins I predict the gop will direct the party to do what Romney did in the past. SAY one thing; we're prolife, profamily.... fiscally conservative, but DO another. Like in the past Romney and the rino’s will blame the left or say a judge made them do it. They will have bills that look conservative, but when you look closely it will contain compromises that conservatives will abhor.

If you believe that will end the Republic and the venue in which a political struggle can continue, then why vote in such a way as to give the larger enemy of The Republic four more years to work at it?

1,294 posted on 07/02/2012 3:38:49 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Being deceived can be cured.)
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To: MHGinTN
No, I do not think obama can destroy this country. I think people will vote in a republican house and senate and legislate the damage he did the past 3 1/2 years. I will not vote for anyone, especially a proabortion, progay marriage and progay indoctrination of the "gay lifestyle" to 5 year olds, out of fear, just because they have a “R” behind their name.

I think the gop-e has been working overtime getting there “chosen one” into office. Many people trusted the gop and believed them and romney about him being “seriously conservative”. I disagree.

Romney                                                     Obama
pro abortion                                               pro abortion
pro gay marriage                                       pro gay marriage
pro gay adoption                                      ? 
pro cap and trade                                       pro cap and trade
pro tarp                                                       pro tarp
pro gun control                                           pro gun control 
pro amnesty                                               pro amnesty
pro raising taxes                                        pro raising taxes
socialized heathcare                                 socialized heathcare
believer in global warming                          believer in global warming

Most conservatives are smart enough to look at what people DO and not what they say. Romney's fake pro life and pro family stands were for the primary. Romney would say one thing, then said or DID the opposite.  Romney can't be trusted to keep his word. 

-Romney refused to go to ONE pro life or pro family event. He said conservatives will vote for him. He is arrogant and not a conservative. At least Obama respects his people enough to go to their events and ask for their votes. 

-Romney overruled his own Commissioner of Public Health and lied about state law in order to compel Catholic hospitals to issue abortifacient pills.

-Romney aggressively BOOSTED government funding for pro-homosexuality indoctrination. Parents could not opt out their 5 yr olds from indoctrination.

-Romney forced all adoption agencies in MA to let gays adopt innocent children. The Catholic Church had to stop Catholic Charities Adoption Services after doing it for 109 years.

-Romney refused to sign the pro life pledge. 

-Raised taxes/fees over 300% while being Governor of MA.

-Implemented a state-level Cap and Trade system.

-Supported Man-Made Global Warming.

-Supported the Brady Bill.

- Implemented a state level “Assault” Weapons Ban after the Federal AWB was allowed to expire.

-Supported TARP.

-Supported Amnesty for Illegal Aliens (Citizenship for those already here).

-Supported McCain-Kennedy (Amnesty).

-We know he was the one who went after Sarah and HER FAMILY four years ago. HE gave us Obama. I guess he believed if he can't win, our nominee can't either. 

1,301 posted on 07/02/2012 4:19:26 PM PDT by Linda Frances (Woe to those who call evil good and good evil, who put darkness for light and light for darkness)
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To: MHGinTN
Do you believe that barry bastard fascist can succeed in collapsing the nation if he gets four more years to work at it? Do you believe the collapse is going to happen regardless of who sits int he Oval Office?

I do not believe he can collapse the nation, but I think he can continue pushing us down the road to socialism, and I also believe that Romney will continue pushing us down the road to socialism. The difference is how fast they are pushing us.

This is a problem that we have been ignoring - both parties are supporting the kinds of things that will push us into socialism or into actions that will dilute the political power of Conservatives. Look at education - No Child Left Behind set the stage for eventual federal control of something that should be a county issue, a state issue at the most. While Teddy Kennedy was the champion for NCLB in Congress on the Senate side, and John Boehner on the House side, who was behind NCLB to begin with? The Bush administration - they were pushing it the week they entered the White House. Bush was pushing it within 3-4 days of taking office, and in people like Kennedy and Boehner he found his support. That's just one example, and btw, I don't think it's a coincidence that a Bush nominee helped save Obamacare in the Supreme Court, but there are other examples before and after Bush.

For over 20 years, we've been getting more and more moderate/left leaning nominees. Bush I, Dole, Bush II, McCain, and now Romney, the most liberal of the bunch. Now some people claim that it's just the way the country is and that we as Conservatives are a dwindling minority of old fuddy-duddies that belong in the 1950s and not the 2010s. Maybe that's true, but I know there are still enough of us around that the GOP can't keep holding us hostage.

Look at it this way. If you are in a car headed towards a cliff marked "Socialism", you don't want Obama or Romney in the driver's seat, because both are going to drive you right off that cliff, it's just a matter of whether you're doing 70mph or 30mph.

You want somebody who is going to put on the brakes. Right now, the GOP only seems interested in slowing things to slow down enough so that we, the Conservatives, will shut up and stop pestering them.
1,305 posted on 07/02/2012 7:13:33 PM PDT by af_vet_rr
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