Posted on 04/11/2012 3:19:09 PM PDT by pawpawrick
MIAMI (CBSMiami) – George Zimmerman has been charged with second-degree murder for the shooting death of 17-year-old Trayvon Martin, according to the Associated Press.
Additionally, Zimmerman has been taken into custody, but it hasn’t been revealed where he is being held.
CBSMiami has confirmed that State Attorney Angela Corey, who was appointed as a special prosecutor in the case, will hold an announcement about the charges at 6 p.m. in Jacksonville.
That press conference can be viewed LIVE starting at 6 p.m. by clicking here.
It’s a choice of riots now or riots later. This is a kick-the-can-down-the-road and hope solution. My thought is that the post-election rioting will have burned itself out, and everything worth looting will have been carted away, before the trial. (Or more optimistically, that the hidden hand driving this situation — the Obama campaign — will be gone and no longer need it).
It's not in the Florida Statute. For the reasons below, I'm going to tell you what I think, rather than what I know. Normally, 'depraved mind' can include malice for a specific individual (which can be formed just before the killing), malice for a group (which doesn't have to be racial - it could be Kiwanis, fat people, Ohio State fans, or - punks who look like they are casing or robbing apartments, if the prosecution can show that.
You would need evidence - early run-ins with the person or class, writings about them, expressions of hatred or frustration toward them. Something more than 'people who wear leather pant in public look silly.'
Because I'm not currently practicing law and much of the research I do for work is not legal, I'm not currently on a flat monthly fee for Westlaw or Lexis. I pay by the search and I haven't paid to run a search on this statute (it will make more sense to see what cases have interpreted parts of this statute after we know more about what Zimmerman may have told the police during his multi-hour interview, or what the prosecution is alleging).
What I'm telling you is general with respect to a 'depraved mind' or 'depraved indifference' and not Florida law.
The terms 'depraved mind' and 'depraved indifference' cover more than just the above.
Good news! Thanks... but the point is still the same. Florida is not a safe State in some areas and “Stand Your Ground” may get you a prison sentence or maybe even death.
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Not necessarily. She could be claiming that he had malice toward punks who case and rob apartments and then 'always get away' before the police get them, regardless of race. She could be playing on all the 911 calls he made (not as many as were reported by the media, but he did make a lot), his desire to patrol, he comments about them getting away, his desire to follow, his carrying a gun.
I see legal, reasonable, Constitutionally protected reasons for all of those, even if he called 911 a lot. She made be playing them into a 'depraved mind' and the reason for a murder.
I believe this is a dog and pony show to placate the mob and hope for a cooler heads when the charges are thrown out in the pre-trial hearing.
Unless the DA has some pretty stunning evidence, I can’t see this getting to trial.
You're right. It is. The fact that your leaders 'caved' to professional agitators has put the entire Nation at risk. The people of Florida need to make a statement in favor of the rule of law, NOT 'mob rule'.
All we really can do is wait and see, I guess.
Unless she’s got a game-changing new piece of evidence that negates the evidence we already know about, she’s walking on very, very thin ice, IMHO.
That’s my hope. To make that plan work the case can’t come to trial before the election though. Hopefully both the prosecution and the defense realize that.
When the media pushes for action right before the election we need to demand that Nidal Hasan be tried first...
In my local community, within an hour of Sanford, we have a very active 9-12 group. Over the last 2 years, weekly attendance averages averages 75 and when certain speakers or programs are offered, attendance doubles. We have taken half the seats in the county Republican Executive Committee and now the 'good old boys' of the GOP-e are feeling the pressure to get back to our conservative roots. This Martin - Zimmerman ordeal is carefully planned to bring our state's electoral votes over to the dark side in the next presidential election. We are also hosting the RNC this election cycle so we are ground zero. The big picture is being framed as I type and a boycott on Florida, our tourist industry and our products will result in nothing more than the boycott on South Africa to end apartheid.
Do you have any idea what the response is in the Cuban-American community? They’ve got roots to understand what thugocracy really means - regardless of which race is the perp. Are they speaking out on this, or are they drowned out (or cowed) by the racist groups such as Black Panthers, Yahweh bin Yahweh, La Raza, etc?
I know what I've read. I know what the Florida Statutes say - although I haven't read a lot of the case law interpreting those statutes (it's almost pointless until I know what the 'facts' are alleged to be by the prosecution and defense).
What we don't know is what Zimmerman told the police in the hours he was interrogated. Plus, we know that some witnesses changed their original statements to the police to make them more favorable to Martin. There's no telling how many new 'witnesses' have appeared since this became about race and gun rights rather than about Zimmerman and Martin, or since TV cameras have appeared, or how many witnesses have changed their stories.
I think Corey needs to be careful about suborning perjury from some of these witnesses who have changed their stories.
Seems like people like you have been assaulted by the media, the Black Panthers, the race pimps, and by the Soros-Obama administration.
How can the rest of us help you fight back?
To claim that Zimmerman was the aggressor she’d have to explain away the 911 call, the witnesses saying Trayvon was on top, and Zimmerman’s injuries though, wouldn’t she? I mean, she can try to show that Zimmerman was out to get this “punk” but unless she can refute the evidence that Trayvon was the aggressor, it doesn’t matter what Zimmerman’s intentions were. Unless she claimed that he had gotten away from Trayvon and had shot out of malice, but the screaming right up to the time the shot was heard would refute that.
Am I missing something?
Holder/Obama side with racebaiters on Zimmerman lynching.
http://angrywhitedude.com/2012/04/question-of-the-day-do-you-consider-this-a-conflict-of-interest/
“There is much breaking news today regarding the Zimmerman/Martin case. Everything from an announcement from Special Prosecutor Corey regarding her charges vs. Zimmerman at 6:00 ET, along with this deplorable speech from AG Holder at a rally for Trayvon with the Rev. Al Not-so-Sharpton…which I simply couldn’t believe when I read about this early this morning. As I see this through my ‘Viewfinder in Life, I view this as a conflict of interest…how about you?
Here’s one of many reports via DC:
On Wednesday U.S. Attorney General Eric Holder urged activists with the National Action Network — a protest organization founded and run by MSNBC host Rev. Al Sharpton – to help President Barack Obama’s administration promote its agenda.
The pillars of advocacy Holder pushed for during the speech, he said, “cannot be the work of government alone.”
“We will continue to need your help, your expertise, your dedication and your partnership,” Holder told Sharpton’s activists. “While I’m optimistic about the path that we’re on and the place that we’ll arrive, I cannot pretend that the road ahead will be an easy one. Many obstacles lie before us.”
“This — this — is our moment,” Holder added as the crowd cheered. “So let us seize the chance before us. Let us rise to the challenges of our time.”
Ahh, good...Then I misunderstood. Thanks for the correction.
Agreed, I like Florida and have family there. I love the oranges from Harvey Groves. The real blame is not Florida, it is the race hustlers and pimps, the dupes that follow them and of course, Bammy and Erich Holder.
Fair enough, but lawyers on a case like this are normally going to be very careful about what they say in public about the prosecutor.
His new lawyer seems light in the loafers imo. Anyone else pick up on that?
“V” is for victim. She was also covering for the epic fail in the embodiment of Sanford Police Chief. She wasn’t going to throw SPC under Rick Scott’s bus.
I saw another side of Hannity in 2005 and quit watching him or listening.
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