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The $7 billion dollar warship being built to maintain American naval supremacy over China
The Daily Mail ^ | 12 April 2012

Posted on 04/12/2012 9:12:12 PM PDT by sukhoi-30mki

The $7 billion dollar warship being built to maintain American naval supremacy over China in the 21st Century

One of the largest, most expensive and advanced warships ever commissioned for the U.S Navy is taking shape at Bath Iron Works shipyard in Maine.

Named the U.S.S Zumwalt, the $7 billion guided-missile destroyer is at the cutting edge of technology and now deemed vital for defence following President Obama's Asia-Pacific pivot.

Featuring a radical wave-piercing hull known as a 'tumblehome', the odd looking ship incorporates stealth technology that makes the 600-foot, 14,500 ton warship seem like a fishing vessel to enemy radar.

An artist rendering of the USS Zumwalt class destroyer which will be one of the more heavily armed and expensive ships in the U.S Navy

Fitted with diagonally launching missile tubes as opposed to traditional vertical tubes and carrying deck-guns that fire rocket propelled warheads 100 miles, the Zumwalt will be a formidable beast.

Even though it is the largest destroyer the U.S Navy has built in years it will have half the crew because of the extensive automation of systems on the ship.

With 32 ships originally envisioned for the class, that was lowered after a government review to 24, then to seven and eventually shot down to just three.

One of the reasons for this is the prohibitive cost of the Zumwalt class.

On paper each of the powerful vessels costs $3.8 billion a piece, but with research and development costs thrown in the full bill is nearer to $7 billion.

The 600-foot-long ships are so large and complicated to build that General Dynamics, who

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KEYWORDS: ddg1000; stealth; usn; zumwalt
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What you get for $7 billion dollars: A guide to the USS Zumwalt's unique features

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1 posted on 04/12/2012 9:12:24 PM PDT by sukhoi-30mki
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To: sukhoi-30mki

This is little more than a silly-assed waste of money when good designs are available NOW at $500mil a copy.


2 posted on 04/12/2012 9:15:56 PM PDT by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: sukhoi-30mki
On paper each of the powerful vessels costs $3.8 billion a piece, but with research and development costs thrown in the full bill is nearer to $7 billion.

Of course if you build more of them, then you amortize the R&D costs over more ships and the per-ship cost goes back down.

3 posted on 04/12/2012 9:18:00 PM PDT by ThunderSleeps (Stop obama now! Stop the hussein - insane agenda!)
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To: sukhoi-30mki
Here's my page reagrding the Zumwalts.

I hope we build more than the three. The decision to cut the numbers drastically is why the cost has run up. A lot of new expensive technology now spread out over only three ships.


DDG 1000, USS ZUMWALT

4 posted on 04/12/2012 9:18:56 PM PDT by Jeff Head (Freedom is not free, never has been, never will be (www.dragonsfuryseries.com))
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To: sukhoi-30mki

Bath Iron works does good work, but Maine is an expensive place to perform work.

I’d bet this Collins/Snowe boondoggle


5 posted on 04/12/2012 9:22:42 PM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: sukhoi-30mki

If conceived under the Obama administration then you can bet it’s a design that came straight from China.


6 posted on 04/12/2012 9:23:39 PM PDT by The Duke
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Looks like an Ironclad from the Civil War.


7 posted on 04/12/2012 9:25:14 PM PDT by AlmaKing
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To: sukhoi-30mki

Not a word about its means of propulsion. Nuke?


8 posted on 04/12/2012 9:28:33 PM PDT by Tucker39 ( Psa 68:19Blessed be the Lord, who daily loadeth us with benefits; even the God of our salvation.KJV)
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To: sukhoi-30mki
Bath Iron Works knows how to build some Frigates and Destroyers


9 posted on 04/12/2012 9:29:19 PM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: sukhoi-30mki

Dang. I’m glad it has radar and a hull.


10 posted on 04/12/2012 9:29:24 PM PDT by Theoria (Rush Limbaugh: Ron Paul sounds like an Islamic terrorist)
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To: sukhoi-30mki

Does it submerge? Seriously, from an angle the hull form of that beast tends to remind me of an old fleet boat somehow.


11 posted on 04/12/2012 9:30:55 PM PDT by Ronin (Sarah.... We really need you now!)
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To: Tucker39

Propulsion: All-electric Drive with (IPS), 2 Rolls-Royce MT30 Gas Turbines 36MW, 2 shafts
Speed: 30 knots


12 posted on 04/12/2012 9:30:56 PM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: mylife

Yes, let’s build a fantastically expensive piece of military hardware (even though we’re functionally broke as a nation) only to have it taken out by the naval equivalent of an improvised roadside bomb. Yeah, that’s the ticket.


13 posted on 04/12/2012 9:31:07 PM PDT by SpaceBar
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To: sukhoi-30mki

Sheesh, that is odd looking.

It almost looks submersible.


14 posted on 04/12/2012 9:31:23 PM PDT by mamelukesabre
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To: sukhoi-30mki; Egon

How does this thing protect itself? Will it be so expensive that the Navy won’t risk deploying them for fear they might lose one?


15 posted on 04/12/2012 9:31:44 PM PDT by RhoTheta ("We're from the Government, and we're here to help you ... NOT")
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To: SpaceBar

I would prefer the menace of Submarines for that price. ;)

Long Live Electric Boat!


16 posted on 04/12/2012 9:32:58 PM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: The Duke

“If conceived under the Obama administration then you can bet it’s a design that came straight from China.”

It reads better like this: If conceived under the Obama administration, you can bet its design went straight to China.”


17 posted on 04/12/2012 9:33:37 PM PDT by Dogbert41 ("...or by Jerusalem, for it is the city of the Great King. " -Jesus)
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To: sukhoi-30mki
Looks kind of familar.... Guess what's old is new!


18 posted on 04/12/2012 9:38:55 PM PDT by sjmjax (Politicans are like bananas - they start out green, turn yellow, then rot.)
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To: sukhoi-30mki

“it will have half the crew”

I read the book `Das Boot’ and there the U-boat commander wishes he didn’t need a crew, that it was just him against another captain.


19 posted on 04/12/2012 9:40:16 PM PDT by tumblindice (Our new, happy lives.)
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To: sukhoi-30mki

It’s an expensive target.


20 posted on 04/12/2012 9:40:59 PM PDT by Dawggie
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To: The Duke

Believe me, It wasn’t conceived during this administration.

It has been 7 years for China to refit the Russkie Varmag.

That’s just a refit upgrade
Some of these designs can take a decade to flesh out.


21 posted on 04/12/2012 9:43:01 PM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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Varyag


22 posted on 04/12/2012 9:44:02 PM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: sukhoi-30mki

Featuring a radical wave-piercing hull known as a ‘tumblehome’,

Say no more—I like it.


23 posted on 04/12/2012 9:44:55 PM PDT by tumblindice (Our new, happy lives.)
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14 years to refit and upgrade the Russian tub Varyag


24 posted on 04/12/2012 9:48:07 PM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: sukhoi-30mki
Featuring a radical wave-piercing hull known as a 'tumblehome',

There's gonna be puking galore on that ship. ☺

25 posted on 04/12/2012 9:49:59 PM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: tumblindice

I read the book `Das Boot’ and there the U-boat commander wishes he didn’t need a crew, that it was just him against another captain.


Like General Patton’s remark about a tank duel between Erwin Rommel and himself.


26 posted on 04/12/2012 9:50:11 PM PDT by unkus (Silence Is Consent)
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To: tumblindice

Going to periscope depth!


27 posted on 04/12/2012 9:51:02 PM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: Tucker39
"Not a word about its means of propulsion. Nuke?"

Algae and windmills.

28 posted on 04/12/2012 9:51:13 PM PDT by UnwashedPeasant (Don't nuke me, bro)
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To: sjmjax

Beat me. That was my first thought.


29 posted on 04/12/2012 9:53:14 PM PDT by PA Engineer (Time to beat the swords of government tyranny into the plowshares of freedom.)
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To: sjmjax

The USS Monitor won that battle


30 posted on 04/12/2012 9:56:58 PM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: SpaceBar

you get it!!!! as in asymmetric RPGs penetrating Israel armor in south Lebanon 2006.

Cheapo defiance rules (unfortunately)


31 posted on 04/12/2012 10:04:18 PM PDT by dennisw (A nation of sheep breeds a government of Democrat wolves!)
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To: mylife

Did the Russians ever completely pay the Ukrainians for the ship?


32 posted on 04/12/2012 10:06:33 PM PDT by meatloaf (Support House Bill 1380 to eliminate oil slavery.)
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To: meatloaf

Doubtful LoL


33 posted on 04/12/2012 10:10:54 PM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: mylife

great photo..... back in the day that was America at its peak. Easy guess fitting during Vietnam war. Ice so is Bath Maine at springtime.... F the minor inconvenience of ice you go to work


34 posted on 04/12/2012 10:11:28 PM PDT by dennisw (A nation of sheep breeds a government of Democrat wolves!)
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To: dennisw

Wast that flagship done in with a Chinese cruise missile?


35 posted on 04/12/2012 10:12:24 PM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: dennisw

I love seeing Bath Maine at Christmas.

All the tugs decked out in lights.


36 posted on 04/12/2012 10:14:02 PM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: dennisw

I have a thing for the tug boats.

They push them things around with pin point precision.


37 posted on 04/12/2012 10:17:03 PM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: The Duke
If conceived under the Obama administration then you can bet it’s a design that came straight from China.

The design isn't from China, just the loan to buy it...

38 posted on 04/12/2012 10:19:46 PM PDT by Gunslingr3
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To: mylife

truth!!!!


39 posted on 04/12/2012 10:21:40 PM PDT by dennisw (A nation of sheep breeds a government of Democrat wolves!)
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To: Jeff Head

You like Zumwalt then look at the Zumwalt fig and see if you can grow one (not joking)


40 posted on 04/12/2012 10:38:00 PM PDT by dennisw (A nation of sheep breeds a government of Democrat wolves!)
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To: ThunderSleeps
Of course if you build more of them, then you amortize the R&D costs over more ships and the per-ship cost goes back down.

Yep.

41 posted on 04/12/2012 10:48:44 PM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing)
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To: UnwashedPeasant
Algae and windmills.

And properly inflated tires.

42 posted on 04/12/2012 11:09:43 PM PDT by llevrok (In today's world, environmentalists would find God out of compliance.)
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To: mylife

We go to Maine every summer and as we’re driving over the bridge you get a great view of some of the warships at BIW. Unfortunately, I’m always driving but I point it out to the kids for sure.


43 posted on 04/12/2012 11:18:21 PM PDT by RedCell (Honor thy Father (9/6/07) - Semper Fi / "...it is their duty, to throw off such government...")
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To: sukhoi-30mki

Thought this thing was supposed to have the railgun?


44 posted on 04/12/2012 11:18:53 PM PDT by Hardraade (http://junipersec.wordpress.com (nobody gives me warheads anyway))
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To: The Duke
>"you can bet it’s a design that came straight from China."

Or going straight back there.

45 posted on 04/12/2012 11:46:02 PM PDT by rawcatslyentist ("Behold, I am against you, O arrogant one," Jeremiah 50:31)
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To: sukhoi-30mki

[”Named the U.S.S Zumwalt, the $7 billion guided-missile destroyer is at the cutting edge of technology and now deemed vital for defence following President Obama’s Asia-Pacific pivot.”]

Oh my, Obama pivots, and immediatly they start building the worlds most expensive warship?

This ship has been in the works for years, Obammy had naught to do with it.


46 posted on 04/13/2012 1:42:13 AM PDT by Sea Parrot (Nations are only truly great when it's people are struggling against all odds, growing and expanding)
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To: mylife

Stand off, they both retired from the fray.


47 posted on 04/13/2012 1:46:19 AM PDT by Sea Parrot (Nations are only truly great when it's people are struggling against all odds, growing and expanding)
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To: Mariner

“The $7 billion dollar warship being built to maintain American naval supremacy over China”

Bread & circuses; we can’t pretend Red China is our enemy while our trade builds up their nation and we educate their next commissars. Just as it has become clear the the Repubs & Dems are taking us in the same direction (just dressed up differently), so it is also obvious that the US and Red China are very good friends.


48 posted on 04/13/2012 1:58:37 AM PDT by kearnyirish2
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To: The Duke
If conceived under the Obama administration then you can bet it’s a design that came straight from China.

Heh. It dates back to the first Clinton Administration.

49 posted on 04/13/2012 2:20:33 AM PDT by Oztrich Boy (This world is a comedy to those that think, a tragedy to those that feel - Horace Walpole)
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To: sukhoi-30mki

The Chinese will have a knock-off made before we ever get ours off the drawing board.


50 posted on 04/13/2012 2:24:50 AM PDT by Minutemen ("It's a Religion of Peace")
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