Who says everything is hopeless? (I don't)
Sure, it appears "hopeless" for the conservative humanists among us who like to trust in political solutions & political "saviors." That's not where I place my trust.
One man -- even Romney or Obama -- doesn't make or break a country alone. God is sovereign; and the corruption extends well beyond Romney & Obama as reasons God could economically judge this country.
I would say that the reality that we have so many conservatives -- and so many Christians -- willing to vote for a guy who claims he is a "god in embryo" and will one day rival THE God for worship, reception of prayer, adoration, creative right of souls, etc...would simply be another reason for God to IMMEDIATELY judge this nation beyond mere economics. (For some reason, God hasn't appreciated idolatry -- especially coming from people claiming to be His people).
Let’s say that you know of a boss who is abusing employees- is brutal, cruel, hates his employees, and does whatever he can to make life miserable for them- and let’s say that life has becoem unbearable under that boss- now let’s say a person is running to replace that boss- and is the only choice we’ve got to replace that boss but hwo isn’t everythign we had hooped for- woudl it be better to keep the abusive cruekl boss inplace? Or go with htel esser of two evils for the sake of easing some of he cruelty agaisnt the abused employees?
Let's say THE Anti-Christ was a Dem & he was in office. Let's say an (R) guy came along -- said he was Hitler reincarnated -- and a vote for him would get THE anti-Christ out of office...Would you vote for the "lesser of two evils?" Would you promote evil and endorse evil? Do you vote for one socialist to rid yourself of another? Are you not "evil" and a socialist supporter either way?
You see, your formula -- and that of many FREEPERs & other conservatives -- trains the next two generations to vote for a guy to the left of Obama down the line...just because the there will always be a worse (d) candidate!
I;m sorry, but I don’;t understand how leavign someone so brutally and blatantly antiamerican in office is better than gettign someone in who at least does have soem conservative values- obama has none- zero- zip- nada- Hell, he isn’;t even proud of this country!
It's called having a choice in this country. If we want -- for the rest of our nation's history -- to be choosing between two socialists...choosing between two pro-aborts...choosing between two liberals...then go ahead with your scheme.
Instead, if you want to be part of the rebellion and tell the RINO GoP-e that "No, there aren't enough pro-abort, big govt. socialist-liberal voters in this country to support two mainstream pro-abort, big-govt. socialist-liberal candidates," then vote third party.
Otherwise, once the pro-abort, Big Govt Socialist-liberal "Waterloo" is crossed, there's no turning back. THIS IS the "make or break" time...At some point, "tough love" needs to show some boundaries instead of just letting the GoP-e take you for granted and walk all over you...belieiving you'll always cave because of your cowardice motivated by fear.
Stand up and take it like a pre-born baby. Instead of being the milquetoast men we see around us, stand up and at least be like a pre-born baby! Half of them die -- most due to the liberal agenda of abortion & abortion drugs; you don't hear them whining about "survival," do you???
[[One man — even Romney or Obama — doesn’t make or break a country alone.]]
One man IS breakign htis country- and if we think the first 4 years was bad, we ‘aint seen nothin yet’ IF he gets back i n again- My point right along has been that obama has made it very clear his itnentions IF he gets reelected like he htinks he is entitled to be-
God is soveriegn yes, that s true- but as The Soveriegn God, He has also empoered we His creation to work alongside Him- Not that He has to use us, but He has said it is His desire that we deo so-
I agree with you Romeny is a bad choice— I hate that he’s our only choice- I hate that the GOP has rammed him through, I hate that the GOP has slid so far left that they are hardly recognizable from the left anymore- However- they are our only chocie right now IF we want obama, who is aq much more evil person, out of office
[[and the corruption extends well beyond Romney & Obama as reasons God could economically judge this country. ]]
I agree- and if it comes to obama being in 4 more years per God’s order- then we’ll simply have to deal with it and take our lunmps, aqnd watch as our rights are eropded away- but I don’;t intend to just throw my hands in the air before the election and let obama walk away with the election uncontested regardless of how much I’d like another gop candidate
[[I would say that the reality that we have so many conservatives — and so many Christians — willing to vote for a guy who claims he is a “god in embryo” and will one day rival THE God for worship, reception of prayer, adoration, creative right of souls, etc...would simply be another reason for God to IMMEDIATELY judge this nation beyond mere economics.]]
and what do you think abotu conseratives who do nothign to kick a purely evil person out of hte white house- Our votes are NOT in support of romeny- they are votes agaisnt obama
[[Let’s say THE Anti-Christ was a Dem & he was in office. Let’s say an (R) guy came along — said he was Hitler reincarnated — and a vote for him would get THE anti-Christ out of office...Would you vote for the “lesser of two evils?” Would you promote evil and endorse evil?]]
first of all- this is an unreasonable analogy- Are you comparing romeny to hitler? (I’ll allow hte comparison of obama to antiChrist- as his actiosn ARE very blatantly antiChristian)
[[Would you promote evil and endorse evil?]]
Woudl you espouse leavign someone as evil as obama in office to continue abusing the right?
[[Do you vote for one socialist to rid yourself of another?]]
IF the only choice I have is between 2 swocialists, and it is clear that the one in office is the MUCH worse choice- then yes- I would vote to have him thrown out of office- Especially when we KNOW he hasn’t ANY right leanign convictions at all an d is actively tryign to destroy this nation of ours in his no holds barred attack on religion, the court system and our constitution
[[You see, your formula — and that of many FREEPERs & other conservatives — trains the next two generations to vote for a guy to the left of Obama down the line...just because the there will always be a worse (d) candidate! ]]
I’m sorry- but that is simply illogical- and you’re beginnign to reach too far in order to try to make your case- noone is espousing voting for the worst of the bunch- I’ve repeteadly stated over and over again it pains me that our only choice is romney- I hate the fact that he was chosen- and we who see another 4 years of obama as too dangerous for htis coutnry given his radical far left agenda would infact teach future generations that we need Godly right of center candidates- however, we also understand that unfortunately, we are not always goi9gn to be given the chocie to choose someone who holds all our values, but that it’s better to vote out someone as blatantly antiamerican as obama than it is to abstain from voting because a candidate doesn’;t hold every last ideal we aspire to
[[Stand up and take it like a pre-born baby.]]
now see- That saddens me- I again mistakenly htought I was havign a covnersation with an adult- either step up your rhettoric to adult levels, or don;t bother responding anymore, because I’ll simply ignore your posts- tyou may feel passionately abotu what you beleive, and that’s fine, but there’;s no need to resort to playground insults in order to get your5 points across- thanjks