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Law gives Zimmerman extra chances in legal fight (Must read!)
The Tacoma News-Tribune / The Associated Press ^ | April 14, 2012 | Curt Anderson, AP Legal Affairs Writer

Posted on 04/14/2012 3:32:45 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

George Zimmerman persuaded the police not to charge him for killing unarmed teenager Trayvon Martin, but the prosecutor has accused him of murder. Soon, armed with unparalleled legal advantages, Zimmerman will get to ask a judge to find the killing was justified, and if that doesn't work, he'll get to make the same case to a jury.

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But in another aspect peculiar to Florida, if the appeals court sides with Zimmerman, not only will he be forever immune from facing criminal charges for shooting the 17-year-old Martin - even if new evidence or witnesses surface - he could not even be sued for civil damages by Martin's family for wrongfully causing his death....

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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Zimmerman must and will be convicted in order that the black mob will be placated. It would be a minor miracle if some Florida judge dismissed the case.

Many people are forgetting that there will be a massive use of perjured evidence. Evidence will be created, as necessary, to counter each move by the defense. I can forsee a witness testifying that Zimmerman was chewing on "The Trayvon's" face just before the shooting.(Sarcasm)

21 posted on 04/14/2012 5:43:28 PM PDT by AEMILIUS PAULUS (It is a shame that when these people give a riot)
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To: Meet the New Boss

Remember how they called Bernard Goetz the subway vigilante? Goetz should have sued. These media wordsmiths know what they are saying is wrong but they do it to keep the black population in a lather in order to benefit their blessed Democrat party.


22 posted on 04/14/2012 5:43:57 PM PDT by cradle of freedom (Long live the Republic !)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
if the appeals court sides with Zimmerman, not only will he be forever immune from facing criminal charges for shooting the 17-year-old Martin - even if new evidence or witnesses surface - he could not even be sued for civil damages by Martin's family for wrongfully causing his death....
Wonder if the mob and the race hustlers know that? I rather doubt it.

Doesn't matter if they know it or not.
The current corrupt Justice Department can manufacture charges out of thin air indefinitely.

If George Z. is found "not guilty," of the murder charge that is, I see a certain new federal charge immediately appearing : "deprivation of civil rights," or some such similar all purpose charge with attached jail time.

23 posted on 04/14/2012 5:51:25 PM PDT by Publius6961 ("It's easy to make promises you can't keep" - B.H.Obama Feb 23, 2012)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The right to challenge probable cause, trial by jury, to a public trial, right to confront accusers and the bar against double jeopardy are as old as the Bill of Rights. It’s the next constitutional “outrage” that will have our Dear Leader doing a tap dance on the U.S. Constitution. Is there any traditional American institution he hasn’t already shown his public contempt for?


24 posted on 04/14/2012 5:52:59 PM PDT by Spok (Who is Sam Zemurray?)
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To: AEMILIUS PAULUS

I wonder how many blacks live in the complex? And don’t forget, watch out for the girlfriend who was on the phone with him just before he died.


25 posted on 04/14/2012 5:53:27 PM PDT by cradle of freedom (Long live the Republic !)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Others are concerned that the laws foster a vigilante, even trigger-happy mentality that might cause too many unnecessary deaths.

An Associated Press review of federal homicide data doesn't seem to bear that out. Nationwide, the total number of justified homicides by citizens rose from 176 in 2000 to 325 in 2010. Totals for all homicides also rose slightly over the same period, but when adjusted for population growth, the rates actually dipped.

So much for that concern then.

26 posted on 04/14/2012 5:58:14 PM PDT by TigersEye (Life is about choices. Your choices. Make good ones.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
George Zimmerman persuaded the police not to charge him for killing unarmed teenager Trayvon Martin, but the prosecutor has accused him of murder.......... The wave of National Rifle Association-backed legislation that began seven years ago in Florida and continues to sweep the country has done more than establish citizens' right to "stand your ground," as supporters call the laws. It's added second, third and even fourth chances for people who have used lethal force to avoid prosecution and conviction using the same argument, extra opportunities to keep their freedom that defendants accused of other crimes don't get.......... Curt Anderson, AP Legal Affairs Writer

I don't know all the facts in this case, but I do know
that this author is repeating or creating lies to prejudice the jury pool.

This is a piece of leftist trash from the first sentence.

Then it begins to repeat the Marxist/Anarchist template.

Zimmerman did not persuade the police not to charge him.
The lead police investigator wanted to charge Manslaughter.

It was the District Attorney who refused to charge for lack of evidence.

The charges only occurred after the "Poverty Pimps" and
the Black KKK started inciting riots and race-based murders.

The full force of the Marxist/Anarchists with 0bama leading the charge
to create a election wedge issue for black voters.


27 posted on 04/14/2012 6:00:56 PM PDT by Uri’el-2012 (Psalm 119:174 I long for Your salvation, YHvH, Your law is my delight.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

“he could not even be sued for civil damages by Martin’s family for wrongfully causing his death....”

Yeah, well I doubt they are thinking about that.

As an aside, though, if he’s convicted, then they won’t have much difficulty suing him. But if he’s got no money, then like OJ, he’ll never have to pay a dime.


28 posted on 04/14/2012 6:26:02 PM PDT by Brilliant
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To: Meet the New Boss
I think much of civil rights legislation is based on the expansive Commerce Clause:

The Commerce Clause grants Congress the power to regulate local business activity if any part of it affects interstate commerce, if the aggregate of activity of that industry has a substantial effect on interstate commerce.

Congress acted within its power to protect interstate commerce in extending coverage of Title II of the Civil Rights Act to restaurants serving food moving in interstate commerce. Congress had had ample basis to conclude that discrimination based on race by such restaurants burdens interstate trade.

In Heart of Atlanta Motel v. United States, the Supreme Court found that the Act was a valid exercise of Congress’s power to regulate interstate commerce in prohibiting hotels from discriminating against customer based on race.

http://www.lawnix.com/cases/katzenbach-mcclung.html

29 posted on 04/14/2012 6:42:38 PM PDT by Ken H (Austerity is the irresistible force. Entitlements are the immovable object.)
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To: Ken H

Under current Supreme Court thinking they will not be able to use the Commerce Clause to regulate neighborhood watch groups.

I think the only theory they can pursue would be the neighborhood watch group as some sort of de facto state actor because they in fact work so closely with de jure law enforcement.

Under the latter theory, Congress could regulate directly under the Fourteenth Amendment as authority.

I don’t agree that is legally proper, but I could see lawless liberal judges relying on that.


30 posted on 04/14/2012 6:49:26 PM PDT by Meet the New Boss
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To: Meet the New Boss

I should add that I am assuming the court will strike down the individual mandate in Obamacare.

If they uphold that, then the federal government as a practical matter can regulate whatever it pleases.


31 posted on 04/14/2012 6:51:26 PM PDT by Meet the New Boss
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

They have a lot of state by state statistics showing an increase in “justifiable homicides” after SYG laws are passed. That makes perfect sense to me — if only a few percent of homeowners being robbed fight back because they now feel that they are in a better legal position, you’re gonna have a few more dead criminals.


32 posted on 04/14/2012 6:57:08 PM PDT by jiggyboy (Ten percent of poll respondents are either lying or insane)
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To: Meet the New Boss

They don’t need no stinking “acting under color of law”. “Civil rights violations” will suffice for any purpose or person.


33 posted on 04/14/2012 7:02:49 PM PDT by jiggyboy (Ten percent of poll respondents are either lying or insane)
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To: AndyJackson

I’ll quibble: he makes no judgement or offers any opinion, he just presents the numbers.


34 posted on 04/14/2012 7:05:10 PM PDT by jiggyboy (Ten percent of poll respondents are either lying or insane)
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To: UriÂ’el-2012
I didn't know the lead police investigator wanted Z on manslaughter. Now THAT might be proveable. Murder 2 won't. Not in a million years.

They could have charged Z with manslaughter and either Z pleads it down and actually does time, or more likely now, Z walks on murder 2. So the poverty pimps get nothing but a race war.

Which is probably their desired outcome no matter what. Al Sharpton's plane doesn't fuel itself you know. Gotta keep the cash flowin'.

35 posted on 04/14/2012 7:21:42 PM PDT by boop (I hate hippies and dopeheads. Just hate them. ...Ernest Borgnine)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
I really want Zimmerman to get off. I believe the shooting was justified, and he and his family have been through enough.

I really want the race baiters to riot. It will show their true colors, and may help sink Obama and pull our country back from the precipice of civil war.

A riot is a terrible thing. It's about time we had one. For the good of the Republic.

36 posted on 04/14/2012 7:50:08 PM PDT by backwoods-engineer (I will vote against ANY presidential candidate who had non-citizen parents.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

From the Article: New York Mayor Michael Bloomberg, along with several civil rights organizations, is leading an effort to repeal or reform laws similar to Florida's [Stand Your Ground Statute], though it's too soon to say if that movement will gain traction.

37 posted on 04/14/2012 7:51:09 PM PDT by Zakeet (Democrat idea of a balanced budget ... one-half smoke and one-half mirrors)
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To: rjsimmon

DOJ gets involved in whatever it wants to and finds cause later, or simply makes it up. SOP with the feds.


38 posted on 04/14/2012 8:49:52 PM PDT by karnage
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To: jiggyboy
Here is a site that has crime stats for each state and the US from 1960 - 2010:

http://www.disastercenter.com/crime/uscrime.htm

This site has demographic data for each state as well as cities and counties in the US:

http://quickfacts.census.gov/qfd/states/00000.html

39 posted on 04/14/2012 9:57:24 PM PDT by Ken H (Austerity is the irresistible force. Entitlements are the immovable object.)
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To: cradle of freedom

Goetz would have had a very difficult case if he filed a lawsuit against any media outlet under those circumstances. For one thing, he’d have to contend with the possibility that a jury might find that the media statements were true (which means no legal action for slander or libel can be taken). Secondly, he’d have a very hard time documenting any kind of financial loss or other harm from the media’s actions. If anything, he enjoyed a tremendous degree of popularity and public acclaim that he never would have had otherwise.


40 posted on 04/15/2012 1:35:30 PM PDT by Alberta's Child ("If you touch my junk, I'm gonna have you arrested.")
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