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China: Gu Kailai Said to Have Named Zhou Yongkang as Coup Mastermind(purge escalates)
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| 04/13/12
Posted on 04/15/2012 5:08:28 AM PDT by TigerLikesRooster
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Zhou Yongkang is the head of Chinese security agency(secret police.) This is turning into a full-scale power struggle of life and death.
To: TigerLikesRooster
From the Chinese news article at Boxun.us,
为求免死 薄谷开来揭发周永康,称其为坏蛋
(博讯北京时间2012年4月12日 首发 - 支持此文作者/记者)
博讯据知情人士透露,为了避免死刑,薄熙来的妻子薄谷开来试图供出周永康和他的政变计划。薄谷开来指控周永康是推翻习近平和其他常委的计划的主谋,她称周是常委中的坏蛋。
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posted on
04/15/2012 5:10:23 AM PDT
by
TigerLikesRooster
(The way to crush the bourgeois is to grind them between the millstones of taxation and inflation)
To: TigerLikesRooster; Tainan; hedgetrimmer; Unam Sanctam; taxesareforever; Avenger; prion; Iris7; ...
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posted on
04/15/2012 5:14:51 AM PDT
by
TigerLikesRooster
(The way to crush the bourgeois is to grind them between the millstones of taxation and inflation)
To: TigerLikesRooster
Sounds like it, many will be purged.
Under this system it will cascade as each tries
to save themselves by giving their interogators
what they want.
We are seeing another chinese epoch.
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posted on
04/15/2012 5:51:35 AM PDT
by
tet68
( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
To: TigerLikesRooster
When you have the worlds 2nd largest economy “controlled” by Communists bad stuff will happen.
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posted on
04/15/2012 6:21:13 AM PDT
by
jdsteel
(Give me freedom, not more government.)
To: TigerLikesRooster
4?
3?
2?
There can be only 1.
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posted on
04/15/2012 6:34:29 AM PDT
by
ClearCase_guy
(Like Emmett Till, Trayvon Martin has become simply a stick with which to beat Whites.)
To: jdsteel
Technically they’re more fascists then communists nowadays.
To: TigerLikesRooster
If you stupid Americans were as smart as me you'd listen more to Chairman ObowMao and emulate the China model.
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posted on
04/15/2012 6:54:46 AM PDT
by
Blado
(Hey libs - write in Mick Jagger! He's the more Authentic African-American!)
To: TigerLikesRooster
Is this just another internal power struggle confined to the politburo, or something larger?
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posted on
04/15/2012 7:06:27 AM PDT
by
jimtorr
To: TigerLikesRooster
So it looks like the coup rumors from a few weeks back were true.
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posted on
04/15/2012 7:09:26 AM PDT
by
PapaBear3625
(In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act. - George Orwell)
To: jimtorr
I think it can escalate into wider conflict. Every major player in politburo has his regional base and substantial followers.
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posted on
04/15/2012 7:11:31 AM PDT
by
TigerLikesRooster
(The way to crush the bourgeois is to grind them between the millstones of taxation and inflation)
To: TigerLikesRooster
Man, I can't make head nor tails out of this mess. I need a scorecard or a playbill. Also since this involves our landlords shouldn't our media be keeping us up to date.
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posted on
04/15/2012 7:53:58 AM PDT
by
fella
("As it was before Noah, so shall it be again.")
To: JerseyanExile
You are absolutely correct.
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posted on
04/15/2012 3:09:46 PM PDT
by
jdsteel
(Give me freedom, not more government.)
To: TigerLikesRooster
Whoa, this one snuck up on me. Thanks for posting. Tell us more when you can.
To: TigerLikesRooster
I think it can escalate into wider conflict.
Agreed, when the organs of internal security are
unleashed against a threat to the state, they
are not going to stop at one or two. It will
be root and branch and any thing connected even
if it’s a flimsy denounciation.
If it can be held inside the polit I would be surprised.
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posted on
04/15/2012 3:31:24 PM PDT
by
tet68
( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
To: TigerLikesRooster
If this much information is already out, then looks like the Bo Xilai faction has already lost. I would have expected a period of silence when nothing comes out for a while before a winner emerges. There was a brief period when this happened (between Wang Lijun’s arrest and last week) but looks like the Hu and Xi JinPing faction has come out on top. What’s your take Tiger?
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posted on
04/16/2012 2:13:08 AM PDT
by
MimirsWell
(Pganini, cmdjing, andyahoo, artaxerces, todd_hall, EdisonOne - counting my Chicom scalps)
To: MimirsWell
I think Bo is gone. The laundry list of charges against him is a classic menu for purge, which includes the allegation that Bo and Zhou engaged in sex with 100 women and making video about it(according to Boxun.) However, they do have regional base(especially Bo) and have had substantial number of followers. I wonder if Hu and Xi can sweep out all of them. China is a collection of major regions which are more or less autonomous. You can't clean up an entire region without bloody confrontation. So they could be biding time to strike back.
If economic situation deteriorates and social tensions rise, winds will be blowing in favor of those with the same view as Bo. Xi should get ahead of the curve and become another Bo. This is probably what Hu and Wen try hard to avoid. Time is not on their side, though. There would be backlash against current party elites who monopolized most of China's wealth. They will be dealt with in one way or another. I am not sure Hu and Xi would be up to that task. If they don't, they will be perceived as part of the problem, who getting in the way of so-called "reform."
China is not N.Korea. Central government cannot have strong control over all disparate regions. Only somebody like Mao can do it. There is only so much they can do. If they push too far, they risk civil war.
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posted on
04/16/2012 7:16:17 AM PDT
by
TigerLikesRooster
(The way to crush the bourgeois is to grind them between the millstones of taxation and inflation)
To: TigerLikesRooster
An unusual situation, I’m glad we have a great
president to deal with it./s
Could it really result in civil strife?
With Bo under arrest, I assume he is, who
would come forward to lead his area against
the government?
I expect before long he will be brought
out to admit his mistakes and then call
on his supporters to support the government.
He was more a maoist type of “reformer” wasn’t he?
He took advantage of the economic policy but
wanted to go back to more strict policy??
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posted on
04/16/2012 8:01:44 AM PDT
by
tet68
( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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posted on
04/16/2012 8:30:12 AM PDT
by
TheOldLady
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To: TigerLikesRooster
This has turned into a great story.
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posted on
04/16/2012 5:32:38 PM PDT
by
Tainan
(Cogito, ergo conservatus sum)
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