Posted on 04/16/2012 11:21:50 AM PDT by Free ThinkerNY
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2872809/posts?page=40#40
Did I miss something? I didn’t see he’s a US Citizen only a “South Texas Boy”...that could be anything.
Charged with murder, like he went on a rampage or something.
Reading your post and then your tagline, I’m overwhelmed at the irony of it all.....
Reading your post and then your tagline, I’m overwhelmed at the irony of it all.....
It depends on whether it is in the commission of a felony.
No, the underclass Mexicans hate the gringos for the same reason that the black underclass hates the white middle class: because the gringos can produce things by their efforts that people will freely pay money for, and the underclass members can't. Because they know in their souls that they are inferior and there's nothing they can do to change that.
Very good post. America is the dumping ground for the paleface Euro-Mexican elites who are overjoyed to see their crude illiterate Indians and semi-Indian Mestizos stream into America. Everyday they laugh themselves to sleep at the stupid gringos allowing themselves to be invaded.
papabear!!!!
Did I miss something? I didn’t see he’s a US Citizen only a “South Texas Boy”...that could be anything.
“We have a 15-year-old in custody that has been transferred to the Hidalgo County juvenile facility,” said Palmview Police Cmdr. Lenny Sanchez.
The teenager, a U.S. citizen, faces state charges, Sanchez said. Police will release more information in a news conference Monday morning.
http://www.chron.com/news/article/7-arrested-in-deadly-Valley-crash-3480630.php#photo-2806780
Yes? And keep in mind that I'm talking about the underclass.
I basically agree with you.
The defining characteristic of the underclass, as distinct from the working poor (that I grew up as a member of), is that the underclass isn’t trying. They don’t see themselves as becoming productive members of society. It must gnaw at them as they realize that they have no value whatsoever to the productive middle class. It’s not surprising that they hate us.
There is no more work for the urban underclass with mothers but an absent baby daddy. They need to be dispersed to the countryside where they can eek out a living off the land. When I was young there was useful factory work for the urban underclass. My father owned such a factory and I worked there during summers. But now there is only burger flipping left and retail and other lo pay jobs.
The bigger issue is that the current system provides incentives for the underclass to have children, which perpetuates the underclass problem. Remove incentives to have children, by drastically curtailing welfare, and the underclass would have no choice but to do something useful.
I’m not leaving this country - and have no intent to go to Mexico - unlike those illegals here - I’m staying to fix this country - not run over to some other nation - work - violate sovereignty laws and think I can do what ever - and then leave...death and the cause of it is a reality of the choice they made. Mexican gangs and illegals here just working have done far worst than what I’ve said here. Drop a tear for an accident for people here doing what ever they want - yeah - I can assure you they don’t think highly of us - and if you ever been to Mexico - you won’t be treated well unless you have a lot of money to dump on people to take care of you - but once it runs out - there’s no ethics about beating you and leaving you out stranded...I’ve seen it personally -— so no tears from me...choices are made daily - they made theirs - and it was the wrong one...
I stated exactly what I meant. No “macho-ism” here. They made a choice to enter and violate a sovereign nation and it cost them their lives. A choice to disregard and operate in the fashion that was the wrong way of going about it. Unlike you, I have seen the dramatic effects that illegal entry has caused - not only to the southern and northern part so the US - but the ceaseless lives lost of US CITIZENS in both the US and also in foreign countries that we either did operate in or are still operating in. The 15 yr old driving - be it for drug runners, out on a student permit, joy riding, or with another adult to learn to drive doesn’t mean he couldn’t have gone on down the road and killed a valid citizen(s) - or a bus load of citizens - but the choices made by illegals doesn’t require sorrow from me. What do even know about those that were even killed...what if they were henchmen going back to Mexico to drag in a bunch more sex slaves into the US? Part of a criminal enterprise to spread illegal drugs around the country - money laundering - which since they are not citizens and aren’t paying taxes - is the same thing...Yeah - I found long ago to appreciate life as one that has put it on the line - as I have multiple times in the War on Drugs (LE) and the War on Terrorism - I’ve gone to places where the “indifference of life” is defined daily and where I throw my support is where those illegals threw theirs...my is in doing what is best for my family in a country I swore an oath to protect - and not crying over a bunch of people who made the wrong choice doesn’t make me some “keyboard macho” or some thug with the mentality of “depraved indifference” to human life! Make a choice you little coward - that’s the problem with the current administration and the general US Public - not doing what is right despite the lives that will be ultimately changed. Sit around and complain without doing anything! Either we, as a nation, get it TOGETHER - or more stupid events like this van load of illegals will turn more deadly for those that have the right or earned the right to be in the US. When your life is put on the line - when your family is effected - I’m sure your general respect for life will be tested. I’m not proud of my feelings - but after 4 tours in that little sewer of a sand box we call Iraq - I saw a bunch of lives wasted over boarder crossings - been to Ft Hauchuca AO lately? The Nogales Area - a complete mess down there...I’m for preserving the US - not worrying about illegals who think nothing about you or me - or anyone else but what they can get - that’s their choice - and if I care not - that’s mine....morality and unlawful has a tenacity to spawn greater infliction into societies. Wars usually happen when feel good decisions are trusted forward rather than paying attention to the indicators of what eventually happens! It’s a historical approach that has repeated itself all too often...
Do you know now?
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“If someone is here ILLEGALLY - then it doesn’t count!”
Was this removed? Apparently - you have it in your comment to my comment...but yet here it is...what ever happened to Freedom of Speech...I mean the ) supporters stated that it was perfectly fine to issue a bounty on that Zimmerman guy down in Florida - stated it was their Freedom of expression or something like that -— then I say illegal is illegal - so what — it’s a statement...and they delete it!?!
Yes, I had forgotten about that angle.
A lot of people are suffering: including our own jobless young-male citizens, whose employability is relentlessly undercut by illegals; including sweating men who die in overcrowded, overturned vans; including weary hungry people who are raped and beaten, starved and dehydrated to death in the Sonoran desert.
Some of them are victims and victimizers at the same time, some of them are just needy and naively misled, and some are as bone-ugly-wicked as they come. --- and yes, sometimes they die pursuant to their own stupid, unlawful choices: but it’s horrifying and pathetic nevertheless.
I’m not looking for freebies and justifications for the lawbreakers, but there’s no satisfaction in seeing their bones smashed. A decent person has a decent regard for the living and the dead.
But you know that.
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