Posted on 04/19/2012 2:35:46 PM PDT by neverdem
Regarding your last point, the real sign to watch as we get closer to November is the number of Dem politicans avoiding being seen with Obama. This will tell the tale better than any polls.
VDH is one of the last of what have sometimes been called Zell Miller Democrats.
I knew a lot of people who had no clue what kind of person Obama was, where he was lacking, or what he would do as President. They knew a few things:
1. They wanted to vote for the first black President.
2. The believed the tripe about the economy being the worst in 50 years.
3. They believed the tripe about Gitmo.
4. They believed that Obama would be the first post racial President.
The last reason is very important since anyone who believed that has to be pretty disappointed.
Yeah, I guess you're right. GOP-E types like Karl Rove fell in behind Christine O'Donnell when she beat the RINO in the primary.
Oops, wait, they didn't, instead they sandbagged Tea Party candidates left and right.
So tell me again where I am wrong.
Yeah, sure. The GOP-E runs against socialism as they embrace their own version of such.
And Romney is basically a doomed candidate, IMO. He doesn't inspire the base. He takes Obamacare off the table as a significant campaign topic. He can't run against Wall Street's backing of Dems. He can't run against TARP. In other words, he is the worst possible candidate for this election cycle, but he had the money to destroy the other candidates. Now, against Obama, he will not have a money advantage, so he's toast.
THAT is a rational assessment of the situation. It isn't that he isn't conservative enough. It's that we have no idea if he means a word he says, other than when he says he wants to be president.
Please lose that tagline.
Our primary objective in 2012 is to defeat Obama and as many of his LIEberal/Socialist/Marxist/Fascist hangers-on as we can.
Lets get that done, then we can remake the Republican Party into a Real Conservative party!
This is why we have a "jobless recovery." There has been no real economic growth, and the reported increase in GDP is nothing more than a false positive.
The press may not report it this way, but the people instinctively feel it, even if they know nothing about economics.
For general edification - what is wrong with that tagline? I can’t say I understand what it means, but what is the problem with it?
Romney's ONLY advantage in the GOP primary was money. He won't have that advantage in the general. He will get creamed.
Best area for conservatives to get involved in are to increase Tea Party representation in the House and Senate.
The establishment actually started down this road even before the election. Hence, we have insiders like Rove attacking TEA party candidates.
The only thing I would take issue with is I don't think the establishment believes they will lose with Romney. IMHO, they think they will win and become even more entrenched and marginalize the conservative element of the GOP.
We may well be headed toward a break up of the GOP.
It’s flame-bait and a bit vulgar as well. Jim and the mods take a very dim view of someone who insinuates that long-term FReepers are actually closet Obama supporters if they are “Romney doubters” for conservative reasons. The GOP-E wore out its welcome here in 2010.
I didn't say that, just that they would rather lose running a RINO than win running a conservative. We saw that manifested in 2010 - if they didn't get their RINO in the primary, they stabbed the Tea Party candidate in the back repeatedly - after years of telling us we should support the winner of the GOP primary even if that winner was a RINO.
And now the same GOP-E cheerleaders are coming out on FR telling us that the GOP-E socialist is a vast improvement over the Dem socialist, when both were for bailouts and both were for government-mandates for health care. And both are political chameleons whose primary reason for seeking the presidency is their own rank narcissism. A pretty tough sell.
One advantage on Ronney’s side. He is known as a millionairre businessman. People I’m talking with (who are not political news junkies) seem to think he is a sensible man who can get our economy back on track. I think the country needs to cool down on both side of the track and Romney with his middle of the road - who knows what he believes - style may be attractive to the huge chunk of the population who’d rather pull a blanket over their head and say, “don’t rock the boat!” Obama has given them 3 years of a lot of boat rocking and Romney may be a steadying hand.
I don’t like him. But in the end I know ABO will be my vote.
I still believe Palin would be a better president.
Watching how the establishment through TEA party candidates under the bus in 2010 makes it especially insulting that they are back again telling us we must support their left wing candidate.
Interesting. Because, it’s one 98’er (citizen) posting to another 98’er (dirtboy).
The inference that opposition to Romney is support for Romney may be hard to hear. But, in a two man race, it’s a fair statement, when it comes to counting votes. Every vote that Romney does not get is one less that Obama needs.
We can debate the strategic wisdom of how we cast our vote -and everyone has to live with themselves based on their decision.
I just wish the conversation here could be more civil and respectful. I hold that removing Obama from office via the ballot box is the first thing that must happen.
Perhaps the Conservative Movement (if such a thinhg even exists) has learned a hard lesson this time and will do away with the circular firing squads going forward.
One can debate the merits of voting for Mitt as an anti-Obama without insinuating that the other long-term Freepers who disagree are actually Obama supporters. That is a sure-fire way to make sure the debate gets uncivil in a hurry.
Good point, but a bad example. O’Donnell is an idiot and was a “clown candidate.”
Rove should have just shut his piehole. Instead, he knifed her every chance he got.
“The recovery is anemic,”
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With all respect to Mr. Hanson, to me it is NOT anemic, it is nonexistent.
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