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More details about Zimmerman emerge during bond hearing ("Racist" meme just flew out the window)
CNN ^ | April 20, 2012 | Michael Pearson

Posted on 04/20/2012 5:29:41 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

For nearly two months, George Zimmerman has been largely a cipher, a riddle whose voice has been heard only in 911 calls reporting a young man acting "real suspicious."

On Friday, the world learned more about Zimmerman as he, his wife and parents testified during a hearing in Sanford, Florida, to decide whether he would be released on bond while awaiting trial on a second-degree murder charge in the February 26 death of Trayvon Martin.

Zimmerman's wife depicted him as a man she has never seen angry. His father said he was a truthful man who had long been concerned with helping others. And his mother said he had organized a campaign to "get justice" for a homeless man who had been beaten in Sanford, as well as mentoring a 14-year-old African-American boy from a dangerous Orlando neighborhood.

Zimmerman has acknowledged killing Martin during an encounter in his Sanford neighborhood, saying he shot in self-defense. Critics have depicted the Hispanic neighborhood watch volunteer as a racist who profiled Martin because he was African-American.

His family said nothing could be further from the truth.

"I know that he is very protective of people, very protective of homeless people and also of children" -- regardless of their race, Gladys Zimmerman said in testimony meant to prove to Judge Kenneth Lester Jr. that Zimmerman would not be a threat to the community if allowed to leave jail while awaiting trial.

She said he has been a mentoring the 14-year-old for three years even though the program he had joined shut down after only nine months because of the economy.

She said she begged him not to go because of the danger.

"He said, 'Mom, if I don't go, they don't have nobody,'" Gladys Zimmerman said....

(Excerpt) Read more at cnn.com ...


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KEYWORDS: blackkk; florida; georgezimmerman; trayvonmartin; zimmerman
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To: doug from upland

try this one, it’s even worse!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b55elhYELUo


51 posted on 04/20/2012 7:07:02 PM PDT by ThirstyMan
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To: doug from upland


52 posted on 04/20/2012 7:10:23 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (Ich habe keinen Konig aber Gott)
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To: at bay
There are so many misrepresentations in your Post that I have to wonder if your TV is stuck on MSNBC 24/7.

Did you stop paying attention right after Reverends Al and Jesse had their say without any pertinent factual information?

I thought I was reading a Dummie Funnies thread when I read your Post.

53 posted on 04/20/2012 7:16:56 PM PDT by Kickass Conservative (A day without Obama is like a day without a Tsunami.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
This

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reminded me of THIS

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54 posted on 04/20/2012 7:17:19 PM PDT by digger48
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To: Kazan

“loitering on the streets”

He was on his way home to watch the game. I’ve heard from GZ now and as my tagline quotes him in court today, he can’t keep his story straight for 10 seconds.

What are you going to do about the witness who says there was a chase?

Tell you what the prosecutors are going to do with all GZ’s stories—put him away for a very long time. My guess is he takes his attorney’s advise and takes a plea deal that will let him out in less than 10.


55 posted on 04/20/2012 7:23:23 PM PDT by at bay (Did you say you're sorry to the police? "No sir.(then) I don't remember...(then) I believe I did.")
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To: Ramius

As far as I’m concerned, in this case the “lesser included” should be littering.


56 posted on 04/20/2012 7:26:04 PM PDT by ArmstedFragg (hoaxy dopey changey)
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To: at bay

I think a jury is going to have something to say about it. I have been predicting hung jury and I am sticking with it. It may well break down on racial lines.


57 posted on 04/20/2012 7:28:26 PM PDT by doug from upland (Just in case, it has been reserved: www.TheBitchIsBack2012.com)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Do you have a link to the complete video of today’s bond hearing? I can’t seem to find one anywhere.


58 posted on 04/20/2012 7:29:50 PM PDT by Third Person
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To: digger48

He had recently lost weight. That’s why his weight was not taken from his out of date ID.
Friends called him TB for TugBoat.


59 posted on 04/20/2012 7:34:21 PM PDT by hoosiermama
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

ABC, NBC & CNN are all in CYA mode after the “outright lies” they stated about Zimmerman.

They will eventually all 3 be sued for damages.


60 posted on 04/20/2012 7:41:43 PM PDT by Texas Fossil (Government, even in its best state is but a necessary evil; in its worst state an intolerable one)
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To: FortWorthPatriot

According to Sharpton Martin had I.T. and Skillets.

I swear I laughed out loud more than once at that video clip.

What a buffoon.


61 posted on 04/20/2012 7:42:58 PM PDT by RummyChick (It's a Satan Sandwich with Satan Fries on the side - perfect for Obama 666)
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To: at bay

I guess this means you won’t be contributing any money to the George Zimmerman White Hispanic, Racist, Bashed Head, Broken Nose, Hoodie Hating, Iced Tea, Skittles, Innocent Child Killer Defense Fund. #:^)


62 posted on 04/20/2012 7:43:53 PM PDT by Kickass Conservative (A day without Obama is like a day without a Tsunami.)
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To: Third Person

Here’s a link to the complete transcript given to me earlier. Hope it helps

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2874479/posts?page=31#31


63 posted on 04/20/2012 7:44:49 PM PDT by hoosiermama
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To: ArmstedFragg

Oh, I quite agree.


64 posted on 04/20/2012 7:53:31 PM PDT by Ramius (Personally, I give us one chance in three. More tea anyone?)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Critics have depicted the Hispanic neighborhood watch volunteer...

Ah, so now that it's coming out that he's a real nice guy who helps the homeless and mentors 14-year-olds, he's Hispanic!

65 posted on 04/20/2012 7:57:58 PM PDT by Nea Wood (When life gets too hard to stand, kneel.)
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To: Enterprise

“The word must be circulating on the street in the “hispanic” community that one of their brothers is being railroaded. Maybe Rivers has picked up on something.”

Yes, the case is all over Spanish radio. Barry might be able to get his black base all wee weed up on this issue but this lynching of Zim will cost him a bunch of Hispanic votes in FL.


66 posted on 04/20/2012 7:58:45 PM PDT by lodi90
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To: at bay
Fax me some of whatever you're smoking: Mr. Zimmerman was responsible for several burglars being caught, which was why he was the captain of the neighborhood watch. He was never convicted of a crime of any kind. Arrest does not equal conviction. Were you aware of that? He did not “confront” young Mr. Zimmerman, he was merely keeping track of him for the police dispatcher. Also, Mr. Martin was (at the time of the incident) suspended from school for drug possession and striking a bus driver, among other things. Did you know that?
67 posted on 04/20/2012 8:02:46 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (Ich habe keinen Konig aber Gott)
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To: hoosiermama

The other thing they are trying to discourage is the neighborhood watch programs that citizens use to protect their property. If neighborhood watch is eliminated, the illegal drug element will have easy pickings to finance the cost of drugs. I suspect that Trayvon Martin was checking the layout of the gated community. He probably figured that those living in it had a false sense of security and would provide an easy opportunity to rob.

If more neighborhood watch programs were set up, it would break the back of the illegal drug industry. The pushers need the capitol to finance their inventory of drugs. The way they get that capitol is through the fencing of stolen property. With the huge unemployment of the black community, they have turned to the drug industry as a means to earn a living. With the rise of that industry our nation is suffering from the collateral damage of violence, lawlessness and gang activity.

I might remind people, that never did hard economic times cause the rise of lawlessness and violence like we see today. This is because of the breakdown of the family in these communities. It is a result of moral decay. Women are regarded as sex outlets and not wives. Seventy-two percent of black mothers are unmarried. Marriage is a thing of the past and cohabitation has replaced it (17.3% black women are cohabitating). As a example, look at Trayvon Martin’s parents who divorced in 1999. The sexual revolution has made of mess of things.

Only Jesus Christ—not social justice—will fix the United States.


68 posted on 04/20/2012 8:03:04 PM PDT by jonrick46 (Countdown to 11-06-2012)
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To: smokingfrog

Link to video of Zimmerman in court today - several video’s @ the site.

http://thepoliticalcarnival.net/2012/04/20/video-trayvon-martin-killer-george-zimmerman-in-court/


69 posted on 04/20/2012 8:04:41 PM PDT by imemyself
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To: FortWorthPatriot

“I read somewhere on another website how Martin made the mistake of “bringing Skittles to a gun fight.” “

Did innocent lil trey bring his screwdriver and dope to the gun fight?


70 posted on 04/20/2012 8:04:57 PM PDT by lodi90
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To: TigerClaws

yes, I am afraid so - the mighty Breitbart predicted it (hey, where is that autopsy report???)


71 posted on 04/20/2012 8:13:38 PM PDT by Sioux-san
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To: at bay

Have you been a Soros troll/mole on this site for 11 years or did you forget the “/sarc” tag?

I am hoping for the latter. If it’s the former, things are becoming clearer to me on a lot of topics discussed on this forum.


72 posted on 04/20/2012 8:16:03 PM PDT by neocon1984
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To: GeronL

Great catch - didn’t notice that.


73 posted on 04/20/2012 8:17:35 PM PDT by TexasNative2000 (Jimmy Carter's incompetence + Richard Nixon's paranoia = Barack Obama)
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To: at bay

It’s neither insane nor uncalled for to “get out of your car to confront someone”, although I believe you are misinformed of all the facts surrounding this incident considering your statement.

Plenty of people on this site feel just like you do concerning this incident. It doesn’t mean you’re correct in your assessment, but it is your right. Considering all the known facts, your assessment is off center, IMO. More facts may eventually come to light that may prove Mr. Zimmerman should be incarcerated, but that remains to be seen.

As far as I’m concerned, more people need to get involved in their neighborhoods if it is necessary to deter crime, and the recent events in that neighborhood indicate he was doing the right thing as far as I’m concerned.

From the known facts at this point, that “child” was far from innocent, and he got exactly what was coming to him if the story that is known is true.


74 posted on 04/20/2012 8:19:40 PM PDT by Pox (Good Night. I expect more respect tomorrow.)
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To: at bay

I don’t know where you are getting your information about Zimmerman and Martin, but you are wrong. If young innocent Trayvon was going to any other school in Florida rather than one in Miami, he would have had a well-earned criminal rap sheet. There is so much crime and thuggery in Miami schools, especially the one Trayvon attended, the “authorities” are just numb to it. By not dealing with young innocent Martin’s transgressions, he was greenlighted to move up the chain of stupidity and now he is dead. It’s his fault, not Zimmerman’s.


75 posted on 04/20/2012 8:24:53 PM PDT by Sioux-san
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To: Sioux-san

If you want to help George Zimmerman with defense funds go here: http://www.therealgeorgezimmerman.com/Home_Page.php

The website had about 1,700 visitors before today’s hearing and just now had more than 4,000.


76 posted on 04/20/2012 8:29:43 PM PDT by varina davis (A real American patriot -- Gov. Rick Perry)
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To: varina davis

He needs $15,000 to post bond for the $150,000 set in court. His parents will need to surrender their home to the $150,000 bond if he can’t raise the $15,000.


77 posted on 04/20/2012 8:32:29 PM PDT by varina davis (A real American patriot -- Gov. Rick Perry)
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To: at bay
How have you managed to fly under the radar since 2001?
And you're giving up being a "covert liberal" for this?!
78 posted on 04/20/2012 8:35:43 PM PDT by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty, and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
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To: at bay

The kid was doing nothing wrong?

How do you know?

Do you know what Zimmerman thought was suspicious? The “kid” was between the homes- on private property, not on public property,- as if he were casing them.


79 posted on 04/20/2012 8:38:30 PM PDT by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Pursue Happiness)
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To: varina davis; Sioux-san

Just gave them $15 that I really can’t afford to let go of. I will not see a man railroaded by this administration.


80 posted on 04/20/2012 8:42:34 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (Ich habe keinen Konig aber Gott)
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To: neocon1984
If it’s the former, things are becoming clearer to me on a lot of topics discussed on this forum.
Retrospect is a bitch without the rose colored glasses, isn't it.
Simple PSYOPS, dude.

@WAR.COM: THE INTERNET AND PSYCHOLOGICAL OPERATIONS 5 February 2001

14. ABSTRACT As an information medium and vehicle of influence, the Internet is a powerful tool, in both open societies as well as in those whose only glimpse of the outside world is increasingly viewed and shaped through webpages, E-mail, and electronic chat rooms. Moreover, the sword cuts both ways, as unconstrained (legally, socially, politically) adversaries find the Internet an effective vehicle for influencing popular support for their cause or inciting the opposite against the U.S. or its interests. Consequently, the realm of military psychological operations (PSYOP) must be expanded to include the Internet. Just as obvious is the need for action to remove or update current policy and legal constraints on the use of the Internet by military PSYOP forces, allowing them to embrace the full range of media, so that the U.S. will not be placed at a disadvantage. Although current international law restricts many aspects of PSYOP either through ambiguity or non-currency, there is ample legal room for both the U.S. and others to conduct PSYOP using modern technology and media such as the Internet. Existing policy and legal restrictions, however, must be changed, allowing military PSYOP forces to both defend and counter adversarial disinformation and propaganda attacks which impact on the achievement of military objectives. By examining this issue, I hope to highlight the importance of the Internet for PSYOP and foment further discussion.
81 posted on 04/20/2012 8:45:35 PM PDT by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty, and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
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To: at bay

>>What are you going to do about the witness who says there was a chase?<<

And if you think that George could have caught up to Trayvon, I’ve got a nice bridge to sell you.


82 posted on 04/20/2012 8:54:21 PM PDT by Aunt Polgara
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To: hoosiermama

Thank you!


83 posted on 04/20/2012 8:55:01 PM PDT by Third Person
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To: neocon1984
Remember the year in which this was written... The recent Defense Science Board report on PSYOP also suggested some less obvious potential tools using emerging media technologies, such as chat rooms and instant messaging services that could be used for “guided discussions” to influence how citizens thinks about certain topics,” and even noted that both U.S. presidential candidates and the Chinese government have used similar Internet technologies for information dissemination.

@Free your mind and the rest will follow.

84 posted on 04/20/2012 8:57:52 PM PDT by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty, and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
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To: lodi90
Thank you for that information. I don't have concrete information that the Hispanics are paying close attention to this, but I suspect it is much wider than the race baiters care to admit.

I understand of course the value of having a defendant look presentable on the stand. That being said, Zimmermman does not come off as a stalker or racial profiler. There is enough hard information coming out now that people can give an educated opinion about the validity of the affidavit and the lack of legal evidence to charge him with 2nd degree murder. And because of that, Corey's ethics are now in question where they might not have been in prior cases. It really is beginning to look like the Duke LaCrosse case again. I wonder of attorneys for past defendants tried by Corey are wondering if their cases need a closer review at this time.

85 posted on 04/20/2012 8:58:09 PM PDT by Enterprise ("Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities." Voltaire)
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To: at bay
"An innocent child is dead."

I think the innocent child named Trayvon wrote just the cutest things on Twitter. "Fu.k a bitch. Any bitch. Who you want?" They're just so cute at that age.

86 posted on 04/20/2012 9:07:38 PM PDT by Enterprise ("Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities." Voltaire)
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To: doug from upland

Permission to steal?


87 posted on 04/20/2012 9:12:20 PM PDT by kanawa
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To: at bay
Lessee, GZ has called the 911 46 times for nothing.

46 times in 8 years = 5.75 calls to the police (not all 911) per year. Big whoop. See the call log yourself before spouting off about things you know nothing about.

George Zimmerman 911 call history

He has a violent past, unlike the child he killed, charged with assault on a police officer, etc....

Not a police officer, charges were dropped. You're here to spread propaganda.

George Zimmerman arrested for assaulting officer, charges dropped

On March 29, 2012, ABC Action News obtained documents regarding George Zimmerman’s application to join Seminole County Sheriff’s Office Citizens Law Enforcement Academy (click here to read the document) that contains information regarding a 2005 arrest for assault on a law enforcement officer.

In the application statement, George Zimmerman described the 2005 incident as follows.

“I was arrested in July of 2005 for assault on a law enforcement officer and resisting arrest with violence. Both charges were immediately dropped to resisting arrest without violence, and then dropped all together.

“I was in an altercation with an undercover officer that was taking part in an ATF sting for underage drinking in UCF. He never told me he was an officer and assaulted me first. Shortly after that, in September 2005, the same unit was conducting a sting at UCF and an officer was killed by an OPD officer because he discharged his weapon and did not identify himself.

“My father is a retired Magistrate Judge for the Supreme Court of Virginia and my mother was a deputy clerk of court for over 20 years. I hold law enforcement officers in the highest regaurd (sic) as I hope to one day become one. I would never have touched a police officer. Prior to and since that I have not been arrested.

Thank you and I hope to join you in January.

George M. Zimmerman.


88 posted on 04/20/2012 9:14:49 PM PDT by TigersEye (Life is about choices. Your choices. Make good ones.)
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To: at bay

When do we find out about the THUGG’s beat down on the bus driver.
Why did you pick this subject for you to come out of the LIBcloset?


89 posted on 04/20/2012 9:14:54 PM PDT by GOYAKLA (Recall/ Impeachment Day, November 6, 2012. FUBO)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

90 posted on 04/20/2012 9:16:00 PM PDT by Theophilus (Not merely prolife, but prolific)
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To: kanawa

Absolutely. Hope it brings lots of smiles.


91 posted on 04/20/2012 9:16:14 PM PDT by doug from upland (Just in case, it has been reserved: www.TheBitchIsBack2012.com)
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To: at bay
What are you going to do about the witness who says there was a chase?

Link please. That's the first time I've heard that.

92 posted on 04/20/2012 9:19:10 PM PDT by TigersEye (Life is about choices. Your choices. Make good ones.)
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To: GOYAKLA

Telefon (1977)

Nicolai Dalchimsky: The woods are lovely, dark, and deep, but I have promises to keep. And miles to go before I sleep, and miles to go before I sleep. Remember. Miles to go before I sleep.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0076804/quotes


93 posted on 04/20/2012 9:28:48 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (Ich habe keinen Konig aber Gott)
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To: TigersEye

I have Police Dispatch #’s from 4 counties in my phone. I call them sometimes a dozen times a month.

Doesn’t mean I’m a holster sniffer, and it has absolutely nothing to do with crime.

just part of my job to alert the proper authorities when certain activites in the execution of our work makes it necessary.


94 posted on 04/20/2012 9:29:04 PM PDT by digger48
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To: SaraJohnson

O’Reilly had two men on to discuss the case. The black man was someone I have seen on Fox before but I don’t recall his name. He alleged that Zimmerman initiated the confrontation. The white man described what Zimmerman did as an “execution.” So much for “fair and balanced.” O’Reilly at times seems to try to state things in a neutral fashion but he allows a lot of questionable statements against Zimmerman to go unchallenged.


95 posted on 04/20/2012 9:34:54 PM PDT by Verginius Rufus
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96 posted on 04/20/2012 10:10:34 PM PDT by kanawa
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To: at bay

He did not confront anyone.The kid came back and confronted and attacked him.Where have you been for the past weeks listening only to the MSM?


97 posted on 04/20/2012 10:25:43 PM PDT by chris_bdba
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To: digger48

NO he did not say that! The dispatcher asked him if he was black and he said he looked black.Trayvon was not a light skinned kid he was very black and was 17yo 250# kid.You are not very well informed.


98 posted on 04/20/2012 10:27:48 PM PDT by chris_bdba
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To: at bay

NO he was on hi way to his Dad’s girlfriends home and was looking into the yards of all of the homes that has just had a break in in the past weeks and is why 911 was called.I don’t know where you got your info but it is very wrong.


99 posted on 04/20/2012 10:31:15 PM PDT by chris_bdba
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To: lodi90

That is good to know.I am sure the WH picked this because of the last name begin Zimmerman and they thought they had a white guy.....


100 posted on 04/20/2012 10:33:35 PM PDT by chris_bdba
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