Posted on 04/21/2012 3:29:09 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
Get ready for the Amish to throw a real snot-slinger.
Since he composed what amounted to an extortion note, I've made the decision not to listen to or believe anything else the man says. He has demonstrated that he has no morals and no brains.
"Now Caiaphas was he, which gave counsel to the Jews, that it was expedient that one man should die for the people."
Seemed like a veiled threat of violence against white jury members if they fail to convict George’s skin to the liking of the racist mob.
The judge should probably gag some of the racist violence inciters starting with the Martins and their attorney. The President and Holder are responsible for letting the racist idiots go this far.
Whoever in the Nation of Islam is responsible for putting a bounty on Zimmerman’s head and calling for racial violence against whites (which has been carried out by black racists dozens of times now in the name of Trayvon) before he was arrested should be dealt with in the justice system. They have violated the civil rights of a lot of people. Obama and Mooochelle are personally responsible for anyone harmed as a result of this communist political game aimed at disarming Americans.
I think this was only a bail hearing.
I've read that under Florida's stand your ground law, Zimmerman is entitled to another hearing before a judge (no jury yet), who will decide if the case should be dismissed on SYG grounds.
If Zimmerman loses in that hearing, he then gets another chance with a trial before a jury. That's my understanding anyway.
I imagine that you’re right. I don’t really know how court proceedings usually go. It seems strange that they would have a bail hearing first when there is the possibility the case could be dismissed. That’s sort of a waste of time and an imposition on the accused when a decision to dismiss would obviate the need for a bail hearing.
For some time I have been predicting a hung jury.
Because of this, no matter how many times the state puts Zimmerman on trial, the outcome will probably be the same: a hung jury. Few, if any, whites in the South are going to want to be forever known as a member of a jury that voted to convict Zimmerman, and conversely, no black is going to care to be known as the person who voted to acquit him. Its a recipe for deadlock.
Talk is already circulating of a change of venue, but a change to where? The moon? Theres no place in the country where potential jurors havent heard about the case, and most folks (black and white, rightly or wrongly) have already formed opinions that by now are virtually intractable.
Get a load of this guy. It's interesting, in a forensically fascinating and simultaneously repugnant sort of way, to see that this 'Rat troll thinks is reason and thought.
It's more like a warm souffle' exploding against a kitchen wall.
Oh, hell, no, FRiend! And spoil the _Resident's political race-drama?
< / smoking sarc >
If they're white, the New Black Panthers will hang 'em. Unless they vote to throw Zimmermann to the wolves.
The Boers will promptly accuse us of genocide against them.
Better idea: Trade the ghetto welfarists for the Boers, twenty-for-one.
Then send the rest of them to Senegal and Sierra Leone and Liberia, to jerk those places up straight.
If he can't get a directed guilty verdict, Obama might go to a Plan "B", of "pardoning" GZ (i.e. offer him something less than complete acquittal) and pressure him to take it, thereby blackening himself. That would be my guess.
If that doesn't work, the _Resident will go to Plan "C", sounding grace notes all over the place and playing Mr. Oil-on-Water and seeking credit for having staged a Super Beer Summit. But that's only as a last, capitulatory resort, if GZ is fully acquitted or no-billed or his case is dismissed, and there is no chance of getting GZ to admit fault -- and the threat of riots becomes too real, and too much a palpable liability to _Resident, to try to slip past any longer.
Before there is any trial there will be a motion to dismiss based on the SYG law providing for IMMUNITY from prosecution for valid self-defense. The same law provides for immunity from civil liability as well.
The depths of idiocy in this article begs for a lawsuit for racial incitement to riot by a writer without a clue.
The arrest affidavit is clinging by a thread - wait til the motion to dismiss. We do have law here in FL that judges must follow.
If Mr. Z can establish he was reasonably in fear of grievous bodily injury or death the judge will dismiss all charges at the hearing.
Motions to dismiss on SYG have been successfully done on paper (exhibits, affidavits, depositions, etc.) or with paper and actual live testimony.
The judge is both the trier of fact and law. Unique for pre-trial motions. Usually if there is question of fact you have to go to trial to establish that.
If the motion to dismiss fails its a toss up as to whether you go to trial or appeal the failure to dismiss. As the Peterson case established on appeal the law provides for an actual IMMUNITY - not just an affirmative defense.
Please note that Zimmerman need only establish his self-defense actions by a preponderance of the evidence - more likely than not (50% + 1) that he feared for his life or serious bodily injury.
That this is unknown to many at this point is truly astounding. Gang bangers having it out with rival gangs have gotten off in late night shoot outs with each other on self-defense grounds.
The only consideration here is to what extent the MSM and race baiters can threaten the area/nation with chaos and rioting if charges are dismissed. That threat is really the only real question here. Trust me. ;-)
I don’t think “Stand your ground” applies. According to Zimmerman, Martin was on top bounding his head on the sidewalk. That’s straight “Self Defense” anywhere in the country.
All white jury and he has a chance for a fair trial...
Ditto with an all-Hispanic jury.
It’s a forgone conclusion, not guilty / hung jury with some of Holders people. Let the fireworks begin.
GZ is presumed innocent. He is entitled to a bond hearing. Are you suggesting he simply rot in jail while it all gets sorted out? Read also about habeas corpus.
No, I was suggesting the opposite. That the hearing that would lead to a dismissal should come before the bond hearing. That way he would spend less time in jail.
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