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Winter Storm Watch (western NY, central/western PA, WV mtns)
National Weather Service ^ | April 21, 2012 | N/A

Posted on 04/21/2012 6:14:55 PM PDT by palmer

New York: NIAGARA-ORLEANS-MONROE-ONTARIO- INCLUDING THE CITIES OF...NIAGARA FALLS...MEDINA...ROCHESTER... CANANDAIGUA 2-4 inches

New York: NORTHERN ERIE-GENESEE-LIVINGSTON- INCLUDING THE CITIES OF...BUFFALO...BATAVIA...GENESEO 4 TO 8 INCHES

New York: WYOMING-CHAUTAUQUA-CATTARAUGUS-ALLEGANY-SOUTHERN ERIE- INCLUDING THE CITIES OF...WARSAW...JAMESTOWN...OLEAN... WELLSVILLE...ORCHARD PARK...SPRINGVILLE 8 to 16 inches

Penn: WARREN-MCKEAN-POTTER-ELK-CAMERON-CLEARFIELD-CAMBRIA-SOMERSET- TIOGA- INCLUDING THE CITIES OF...WARREN...BRADFORD...COUDERSPORT... ST. MARYS...RIDGWAY...EMPORIUM...DUBOIS...CLEARFIELD... JOHNSTOWN...SOMERSET...MANSFIELD...WELLSBORO IN EXCESS OF 6 INCHES...WITH UP TO ONE FOOT POSSIBLE ACROSS SOME OF THE HIGHER TERRAIN.

WV: POCAHONTAS-RANDOLPH- INCLUDING THE CITIES OF...MARLINTON...ELKINS 2 TO 4 INCHES IN THE VALLEYS WITH 4 TO 8 INCHES IN THE MOUNTAINS

WV, MD: EXTREME WESTERN ALLEGANY-WESTERN GRANT-WESTERN MINERAL- WESTERN PENDLETON- INCLUDING THE CITIES OF...FROSTBURG...BAYARD...MOUNT STORM... ELK GARDEN...CIRCLEVILLE 6 OR MORE INCHES OF SNOW POSSIBLE.

Penn, WV, MD: GARRETT-MERCER- VENANGO-FOREST-LAWRENCE-BUTLER-CLARION- JEFFERSON PA- BEAVER-ALLEGHENY-ARMSTRONG-INDIANA-WESTMORELAND- WESTMORELAND RIDGES-FAYETTE-FAYETTE RIDGES-PRESTON-TUCKER- 6 INCHES OR MORE ARE POSSIBLE


TOPICS: News/Current Events; US: New York; US: Pennsylvania; US: West Virginia
KEYWORDS: globalcooling; globalwarming; snow; springsnowstorm
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To: PA Engineer
Ugh. We had a very mild winter. Was going to put the plants in from the greenhouse this weekend. Everything else is in bloom outside and beginning to fill in. Very weird winter in western PA.

Yeah, I see our leaves have come out and Mom's azaleas have bloomed beautifully. BTW, I might be out in that crap, I'm a delivery driver and we took the studded snow tires off the pickup too. B-P Mother Nature is so screwed up, she needs to be committed and sent to Western Psych in Pittsburgh. B-P
51 posted on 04/21/2012 9:29:03 PM PDT by Nowhere Man (General James Mattoon Scott, where are you when we need you? We need a regime change.)
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To: palmer

Major storm - Florida
http://www.goes.noaa.gov/GSSLOOPS/ecwv.html


52 posted on 04/21/2012 9:52:38 PM PDT by Whenifhow
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To: BuffaloJack

I use the National Weather Service Enhanced Radar Image Loop site. I see nothing on the horizon, nada; zip.


53 posted on 04/21/2012 9:57:11 PM PDT by Colorado Cowgirl (God bless America!)
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To: haircutter

You need a standby generator powered by propane.


54 posted on 04/21/2012 10:49:10 PM PDT by DB
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To: Nowhere Man
Yeah, I see our leaves have come out and Mom's azaleas have bloomed beautifully. BTW, I might be out in that crap, I'm a delivery driver and we took the studded snow tires off the pickup too. B-P Mother Nature is so screwed up, she needs to be committed and sent to Western Psych in Pittsburgh. B-P

Same here. Was admiring our azaleas today and took the studs off of all three cars a little over a week ago. Still have the driveway drift markers up. Taking the studs off must have been the jinx.
55 posted on 04/21/2012 10:52:00 PM PDT by PA Engineer (Time to beat the swords of government tyranny into the plowshares of freedom.)
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To: caww
I’m in Western Pa also..and you’re right “weird winter” says it. I don’t think I cleared the snow off my car more than five times... Not once snowed in as is usual. Very mild winter.

I had the snow blower out only once. We live in that snow belt area in Murrysville. Normally we get two weeks of 3-5" of snow a day until the lakes freeze over. Then maybe a couple arctic clippers and of course the occasional nor'easter. This year we have almost nothing. In fact it has been very dry with less than 3" of rain all winter. Very weird and unusual.
56 posted on 04/21/2012 10:58:53 PM PDT by PA Engineer (Time to beat the swords of government tyranny into the plowshares of freedom.)
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To: PA Engineer

I had to check where that is....you’re not far from Pittsburgh...in fact isn’t that like a sub community on the fringes of?

I’m North of Pittsburgh....in Butler County. We sit right on the Jet stream here, so no matter what the weather says we never know what we’re going to get! I’ve seen it with a foot and more on my car roof...to travel then five miles south and nothing on the ground all the way to Pittsburgh....and vice-versa.

I can go North three miles and likewise difference. It’s crazy weather patterns here under “normal” conditions!

Well looks like you’ll be needing that blower maybe. Who knows


57 posted on 04/21/2012 11:19:13 PM PDT by caww
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To: caww
I had to check where that is....you’re not far from Pittsburgh...in fact isn’t that like a sub community on the fringes of?

We are literally on the edge of suburban and rural. One mile from the recent safe zone on the posted zombie map. Our weather is never what is happening in the burg.

It is kind of the same here. We will have 6 inches, Plum will have 3 inches and Pittsburgh nothing. Then again 20 miles further east of us is generally armageddon.
58 posted on 04/21/2012 11:33:50 PM PDT by PA Engineer (Time to beat the swords of government tyranny into the plowshares of freedom.)
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To: brityank

I work in Canandaigua which is Ontario County but I used to live in Wayne County (Sodus Village) I actually MISS Sodus but not because of the weather.

Time to bring in some wood b/c “hubby” has a head cold and that’s all we heat with (no furnace)


59 posted on 04/22/2012 3:12:46 AM PDT by AbolishCSEU (Percentage of Income in CS is inversely proportionate to Mother's parenting of children)
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To: palmer
From my local NWS: EXPANDED WINTER STORM WATCH EWD TO INCLUDE ALL OF POTOMAC HIGHLANDS. A FEW INCHES OF HEAVY WET SNOW ON LEAFY TREES AND POWER LINES XPCD TO HAVE SGFNT IMPACT THRU ALL OF THE POTOMAC HIGHLANDS. DESPITE SNOW TOTALS NOT XPCD TO MEET CRITERION... IMPACT WARRANTS EXPANSION OF WATCH.

The Blue Ridge near me is predicted to have 1-3 inches where the people live (e.g. Blue Mountain, Chester Gap) and more higher in the park along the Skyline Drive. The trees are mostly leafed out at 2k feet and there will be a lot of limbs pruned from trees. Ironically the last big storm this season (and really for the whole winter) was in October although that one caused more damage in NJ and CT than down here.

60 posted on 04/22/2012 4:10:17 AM PDT by palmer (Before reading this post, please send me $2.50)
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To: PA Engineer

This is the warning for our area....between Erie and Pittsburgh..Butler County:

WINTER STORM WATCH REMAINS IN EFFECT FROM LATE TONIGHT THROUGH MONDAY EVENING...

* HAZARD TYPES...HEAVY WET SNOW.

* ACCUMULATIONS...6 INCHES OR MORE ARE POSSIBLE. SNOWFALL AMOUNTS MAY BE HIGHLY DEPENDENT ON ELEVATION.

* TIMING...RAIN WILL CHANGE TO SNOW AFTER MIDNIGHT TONIGHT AND CONTINUE THROUGH MONDAY NIGHT.

* IMPACTS...THE COMBINATION OF STRONG WINDS AND A HEAVY WET SNOW WILL BRING DOWN TREE LIMBS AND POWER LINES.

* WINDS...NORTHWEST 10 TO 20 MPH WITH GUSTS UP TO 35 MPH.

* TEMPERATURES...IN THE MID 30S.

* VISIBILITIES...MAY BE REDUCED BELOW ONE QUARTER OF A MILE IN THE HEAVIEST SNOWFALL MONDAY MORNING.

&&


61 posted on 04/22/2012 8:43:41 AM PDT by caww
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To: caww

This is all weird....here in the Kali desert we hit 107 yesterday, and likely will be right around there again today.


62 posted on 04/22/2012 8:56:36 AM PDT by ErnBatavia (A conservative, a liberal and a moderate walked into a bar; barkeep said "Hi Mitt")
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To: ErnBatavia

Jet stream has to do with and we are off the Erie Lake affects as well.....time will tell as this area very difficult to pin down weather wise.

If you hit 107 I’m sure you’re in air conditioning. I learned when living in Florida.. the difference between the North and the South is only a matter of what season they are homebound...here it’s winter snow storms.....there it’s too hot to be outdoors. Both end up homebound when it gets too extreme.


63 posted on 04/22/2012 9:19:03 AM PDT by caww
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To: PA Engineer
Same here. Was admiring our azaleas today and took the studs off of all three cars a little over a week ago. Still have the driveway drift markers up. Taking the studs off must have been the jinx.

Yeah, I think ti could be. I hope the snow will not hurt the flowers. B-( It is the first time they bloomed so well too. B-( At least the rear tires on my (rear wheel drive) company truck are new. B-P
64 posted on 04/22/2012 9:24:14 AM PDT by Nowhere Man (General James Mattoon Scott, where are you when we need you? We need a regime change.)
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To: caww; PA Engineer

I live near Greater Pitt Airport. BTW, I notice wild variations in the weather too. There are times I go from Sewickley, it is raining there and when I get up into Moon or Alliquippa/Hopewell, it is snowing. In summer, when I go to Neville Island on a hot day, it seems like it is so much hotter there.


65 posted on 04/22/2012 9:29:09 AM PDT by Nowhere Man (General James Mattoon Scott, where are you when we need you? We need a regime change.)
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To: sneakers; prisoner6

Thanks for the pingy sneaks!

I have been watching this too. Power loss risk will be the big problem. Kids had NO snow days and NO delays this year. Looking for fun times the next couple of days!

Do I get props for NOT prepping (sort of)? Usually I go grocery shopping at Wally World Sunday evenings...I’m just getting a few non perishables (but hitting the deli) things we can use of no microwave or electric stove
And if propane grill becomes hard to get too.

So its kind of non prepping prepping.

We lose power when a a squirrel runs across a power line outside of Jeanette, so I’m expecting the worst :(

Yinz stay safe!


66 posted on 04/22/2012 10:16:32 AM PDT by PennsylvaniaMom (Just because you are paranoid it doesn't mean they aren't out to get you.)
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To: PA Engineer

Hi neighbor! As the crow flies, im not that far from you...east end of Irwin zip code. Fun days in store for us :(


67 posted on 04/22/2012 10:22:34 AM PDT by PennsylvaniaMom (Just because you are paranoid it doesn't mean they aren't out to get you.)
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To: DB

your right we do and have discussed it often...will be making a purchase..


68 posted on 04/22/2012 11:18:47 AM PDT by haircutter
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To: PennsylvaniaMom

Well the Watch has turned into A Warning...

TWC SVR New:
Winter Storm Warning #748400 for Westmoreland, PA until Apr 24 02:00 AM EDT.

*Safety first with Michelin http://bit.ly/GVuJV2


69 posted on 04/22/2012 11:34:55 AM PDT by PennsylvaniaMom (Just because you are paranoid it doesn't mean they aren't out to get you.)
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To: PennsylvaniaMom
Well the Watch has turned into A Warning...

Ugh. Just saw that. They are calling for 5.9 inches. That means we will get 8+. I also noticed they downgraded the temperatures. That is not good for the trees. Stay safe.
70 posted on 04/22/2012 11:52:40 AM PDT by PA Engineer (Time to beat the swords of government tyranny into the plowshares of freedom.)
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To: PA Engineer

Just came back to post more....Drudge has it up as his banner. SNOWPRIL! On his links (National Weather Service and The Weather Channel) shows metro of the Burgh in high snow accumulations, high wind warnings, and dense foliage growth areas. We. Are. Doomed.

I’m beginning to wonder now...how many days til power comes back on.


71 posted on 04/22/2012 12:12:17 PM PDT by PennsylvaniaMom (Just because you are paranoid it doesn't mean they aren't out to get you.)
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To: palmer

I’ve learned from watching television that every hot day in summer is evidence of global warming so I’m a little confused. Does this mean the Earth is now cooling?


72 posted on 04/22/2012 12:17:28 PM PDT by BinaryBoy (Anyone But Romney)
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To: PennsylvaniaMom
Snowfall rates may exceed 1" per hour Sunday night into early Monday, accompanied by thunder and lightning!

Only thing missing is cats and dogs sleeping together.
73 posted on 04/22/2012 12:34:56 PM PDT by PA Engineer (Time to beat the swords of government tyranny into the plowshares of freedom.)
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To: PA Engineer

Oh noes!?! Been nice knowing ya!


74 posted on 04/22/2012 12:39:41 PM PDT by PennsylvaniaMom (Just because you are paranoid it doesn't mean they aren't out to get you.)
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To: PennsylvaniaMom

I will be walking Monday morning. Oh joy, LOL!

Hopefully it will be light rain and no snow. Not even going to try doing it in less than 45 minutes.


75 posted on 04/22/2012 1:37:54 PM PDT by prisoner6 (Right Wing Nuts bolt the Constitution togethegr as the loose screws of the Left fall out!)
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To: PennsylvaniaMom

HiiPaMom! We stopped for propane at Lowes this afternoon. Took the canister from the propane grill. It was almost empty anyway. At least we’ll have heat. I have a gas stove so can still cook. And, MOST importantly, we have a Coleman coffeemaker that brews a really decent cup of coffee. We’re good to go!


76 posted on 04/22/2012 3:06:01 PM PDT by sneakers (Go Sheriff Joe!)
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To: prisoner6

Oh no! Wear warm, waterproof boots! It won’t be fun trudging home through heavy, wet snow! And wear a hat!


77 posted on 04/22/2012 3:09:08 PM PDT by sneakers (Go Sheriff Joe!)
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To: sneakers; PennsylvaniaMom; prisoner6; A. Morgan

A. Morgan sent me the radar to your area - P6, sounds like you need snowshoes more than anything! Stay safe and warm, yinz’ll.


78 posted on 04/22/2012 3:14:39 PM PDT by Ladysmith (The evil that's happening in this country is the cancer of socialism...It kills the human spirit.)
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To: sneakers; prisoner6
.. and you're NOT leaving this table til you eat those vegetables !   ;-)
79 posted on 04/22/2012 3:18:10 PM PDT by tomkat
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To: PennsylvaniaMom
We lose power when a a squirrel runs across a power line...

LOL! I don't want you to lose power but that was just funny as he**!

80 posted on 04/22/2012 3:19:20 PM PDT by Ladysmith (The evil that's happening in this country is the cancer of socialism...It kills the human spirit.)
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To: sneakers

What is ticking me off is that the change should start around 8 tonight. Weather channel has some stupid lufeguard program on. WPXI is running sports even though it’s supposed to be news.

Internet is not updating.

My weather station is showing low but steady pressure at 6:30pm. I’m thinking the east coast low has moved north. Maybe enough to keep snowfall to...where yunz are to the east. I might not be in bad shape when I start walking at 6am. Later in the day?????

Considering all that has happened to my family in the past few days I’m happy.

Thank You Lord!


81 posted on 04/22/2012 3:23:30 PM PDT by prisoner6 (Right Wing Nuts bolt the Constitution togethegr as the loose screws of the Left fall out!)
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To: tomkat

LOL!!


82 posted on 04/22/2012 3:26:43 PM PDT by sneakers (Go Sheriff Joe!)
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To: prisoner6

Mr S just heard that Pittsburgh now has an advisory while points east (Armstrong, Indiana, Fayette, etc) all have a warning. Glad to have the 4-wheel drive!


83 posted on 04/22/2012 3:36:23 PM PDT by sneakers (Go Sheriff Joe!)
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To: tomkat; sneakers; PennsylvaniaMom

QVC is supposed to have a recipe for bacon wrapped asparagus soon. Can’t wait!

Mitch Daniels just on Fox...not great but why don’t I like him? I can’t recall , LOL.

Just found out our kids already planted cukes, tomatoes and more. We’re scrambling to get things covered!


84 posted on 04/22/2012 3:40:05 PM PDT by prisoner6 (Right Wing Nuts bolt the Constitution togethegr as the loose screws of the Left fall out!)
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To: prisoner6
I’m thinking the east coast low has moved north

The surface low passed Virginia Beach shortly after 6PM (pressure started rising). It is still moving north about 30 mph (just guessing from the 500 mb map), but should slow down quite a bit as it turns to the NW. I think some of the projected snowfall is from upslope (the usual spots that get lake effect with NW winds) and some is from the trowal which should set up from western NY down into NW PA. My thinking is that the trowal will have the most cold and snow. Upslope is still likely but I'm not sure there will be as much of that.

85 posted on 04/22/2012 5:09:19 PM PDT by palmer (Before reading this post, please send me $2.50)
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To: palmer

Local forecast here said snow starting by 8pm. 8:30 now and very light rain, mostly a mist. From our family farm 90 miles north they say similar.

I think it will depend on where the east coast low stalls.


86 posted on 04/22/2012 5:21:38 PM PDT by prisoner6 (Right Wing Nuts bolt the Constitution togethegr as the loose screws of the Left fall out!)
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To: prisoner6; sneakers; PennsylvaniaMom
It's been rainin' all day here along the Susquehanna (just above the fork), and is to continue same thru Tuesday.

Weather guessers are sayin' it'll stay just warm enough overnight to keep it as rain, though a bunch of it.

Hope y'all to the west/north come thru with power and trees and roofs intact !

87 posted on 04/22/2012 6:29:21 PM PDT by tomkat
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To: palmer
well here in Somerset County, PA. our temps are down to 30 degrees and snow and winds heading our way...

such stupid weather and Spring trees are in bloom and we were so hopeful to get garden underway...

off to turn on those electric blankets and hunker down..
nite from here

carole
haircutter.

88 posted on 04/22/2012 8:32:06 PM PDT by haircutter
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To: sneakers

OMGosh! Mrs p6 drove me to work....I FORGOT TO BRING MY POCKET RADIO!!!! No Q&R on the way home! Rain, Snow, Whatever I bet I make walking home in record time even going the long way around, LOL!


89 posted on 04/22/2012 9:53:33 PM PDT by prisoner6 (Right Wing Nuts bolt the Constitution togethegr as the loose screws of the Left fall out!)
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To: prisoner6

2 am. took our pup out to do her business!! she seemed like ‘what the he!!’ is going on here’ our snow has begun!!!

so guess this doesn’t plan to pass us by..strong winds are predicted for later in the day...ugh


90 posted on 04/22/2012 11:10:29 PM PDT by haircutter
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To: prisoner6

Looks like the surface low is further east than they thought it would go. Not sure of the consequences since it is a monster and there still is upslope to deal with, but the trowal which will create the main cold air funnel will be further east and further north.


91 posted on 04/23/2012 1:41:31 AM PDT by palmer (Before reading this post, please send me $2.50)
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To: palmer

You people and your global warming. It never ends.


92 posted on 04/23/2012 1:43:02 AM PDT by eyedigress ((zOld storm chaser from the west)/?)
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To: palmer

Looks like both NWS Pitts and NWS State College are dialing back their snow amounts. Pitt is stressing upslope and SC is saying the storm is moving north faster and will be over the Catskills at 18Z (2 pm). Once the storm is north of PA the remaining effects will be upslope and some remanent band like we currently have in NW Virginia. It has a few wet flake mixed in and you guys in PA will have all wet snow, but just a quick inch or two most places as the band moves through (maybe 2-4 if t lingers). Otherwise the effects will be upslope and mostly higher upslope during midday warming.


93 posted on 04/23/2012 1:51:55 AM PDT by palmer (Before reading this post, please send me $2.50)
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To: palmer
This picture shows approx where the storm is headed (highest pressure falls): http://weather.unisys.com/surface/sfc_con.php?image=3p&inv=0&t=cur
94 posted on 04/23/2012 2:13:42 AM PDT by palmer (Before reading this post, please send me $2.50)
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To: palmer
So far nothing but light rain in Pittsburgh. Some areas had a few flurries mixed in. Forecasters are all over the place. The one my company uses first said 4-8 inches in the city, then 2-4 inches but on his graphic he shows 0.0 inches for the city. It's a CYA thing!

Temps are in the mid 30's now so it's actually not too bad.

95 posted on 04/23/2012 2:21:34 AM PDT by prisoner6 (Right Wing Nuts bolt the Constitution togethegr as the loose screws of the Left fall out!)
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To: prisoner6
There seem to be some bands moving down from the NE. Not sure how far west those will go. I suspect Latrobe and eastward will have the most snow. http://radar.weather.gov/radar.php?rid=pbz&product=N0R&overlay=11101111&loop=yes
96 posted on 04/23/2012 2:34:53 AM PDT by palmer (Before reading this post, please send me $2.50)
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To: palmer
It's just been sittin' there for a few hours now . . .



97 posted on 04/23/2012 5:50:25 AM PDT by tomkat
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