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To: Kenny Bunk
FYI, the HDOH NEVER released a Certified Copy of the LFBC. What they gave Obama's Lawyer was a Digital File ABSTRACTED from data allegedly "on file" in their archives.

Yes, that is exactly my argument. The PDF came from Hawaii.

It was the WH that took this digital file and turned it into a digitally produced "copy" of what they thought a BC should look like, complete with "official" stationery background and stamps. There is no "document," was no document," and never will be a "document."

This I do not believe. It is a felony, and Officials in Hawaii would be aware of it. To remain silent during the perpetration of a felony is itself another felony. People in Hawaii could face prison, and as much as they may love Obama, they love themselves more. I do not believe any of them would risk such a thing. Obama's own lawyer would also be complicit in it, and if discovered, his career would be over.

Again, the third party forgery theory makes absolutely no sense. What makes sense is that Hawaii's DOH produced it, and as far as they are concerned it is a valid legal document.

The 50 states create 120,000 fake birth certificates every year. (There are 120,000 adoptions every year in the U.S.) *I* have a fake but legal birth certificate because *I* was adopted too.

133 posted on 04/23/2012 8:25:40 AM PDT by DiogenesLamp (Partus Sequitur Patrem)
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To: DiogenesLamp

You are spot on, it seems to me.

And the bottom line is that the courts are no more likely to view original intent in regards to NBC than they are to view original intent in regards to the ‘general welfare’ clause or the ‘interstate commerce’ clause.

Fighting for a general restoration of the Constitution can be successful, trying to unseat a sitting president based on an original intent theory that is in practice for no other part of the Constitution is not going to be successful.


134 posted on 04/23/2012 8:34:14 AM PDT by jjotto ("Ya could look it up!")
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To: DiogenesLamp
This I do not believe.

And I do not wish to believe it, either. However, as each round of evidence surfaces, I am forced to confront it.

It is painfully obvious at this point that the WH used digital data from the abstract to create a new digital document. The only way that could be in any way mitigated is if they were to claim that the data they put in their "document" was 100% complete and 100% accurate.

Since what they originally received from HDOH is an "ABSTRACT," that cannot be legally maintained, nor indeed is it possible.

I also am coming rapidly to believe that because of the enormity of the issue, they believed they could get away with it forever.

Start with the basic fact of the matter. There is no legally certified copy of a Birth Certificate that is on file in Hawaii in anyone's possession, including the WH. Is that because there is no original? A reasonable fellow could easily be led to that conclusion.

144 posted on 04/23/2012 2:45:57 PM PDT by Kenny Bunk (So, Scalia, Alito, Thomas, and Roberts can't figure out if Obama is a Natural Born Citizen?)
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