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To: rlmorel
The document is clearly, undeniably and unarguably faked. And an amateurishly faked one, too.

People say things like that that and then it turns out they don't understand manual typewriters or fountain pens or rubber stamps or binding documents in books or anything about office procedure fifty years ago.

Maybe a little less bravado is in order. If birth certificate 2.0 is a forgery, why not admit that one isn't an expert and that it's a pretty good one, as far as it goes? If there is a forger, and you give him his due rather than insult him, maybe more people will go for these theories.

142 posted on 04/23/2012 1:47:20 PM PDT by x
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To: x
Maybe a little less bravado is in order. If birth certificate 2.0 is a forgery, why not admit that one isn't an expert and that it's a pretty good one, as far as it goes? If there is a forger, and you give him his due rather than insult him, maybe more people will go for these theories.

I think you are familiar with my theory. Any further thoughts on it?

143 posted on 04/23/2012 2:25:46 PM PDT by DiogenesLamp (Partus Sequitur Patrem)
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Nothing personal (and I mean it, because I really don’t know you) but I think that anyone with even a smidgen of abilty who has ever had the curiousity to take the time to see how things work in general, could fail to view that document and come to any other conclusion.

It isn’t even close.

I used to be a jet mechanic, and now work in imaging and have done so for a couple of decades, and while I have my faults, I can look at something and figure out how it was put together, and for the most part, how it works.

I have used Photoshop since 1992 and Illustrator since 1988, so I understand those technologies well enough to be conversant in them and create content from them as needed.

This is not bravado on my part. It is certainty, or as certain as I can get about anything like this. I am old enough to have struggled to repair malfunctioning typewriters, and have disassembled them, so I have a pretty good idea how THOSE work.

It is a fine document if you are going to flash it to get past a checkpoint or to use to get a job as a cook, if they needed a birth certificate.

Once one knows the problems with that particular document, is is impossible NOT to see them sticking out of the page.

Really. I am pretty angry because this guy now sits in the White House and is dismantling sectors of our economy and our society right in front of our eyes, and there isn’t a thing we can do about it. When I see this crappy forgery, and that is exactly what it is, it makes me even angrier, because if certain parties had done their damned job, we might be in the same place, but it wouldn’t be that terrorist-loving SOB doing the deliberate dirty work.

Again, if I seem angry, and I AM, it is directed at the parties that LET this happen and do nothing about it now.

I don’t know everything, and I am just as capable of being intellectually lazy and susceptible to incorrect information as anyone else. But because I accept up front that those are weaknesses, it helps me avoid falling into that pit, even though I still occasionally do.

But I take my responsibility as a citizen seriously, because if I don’t want to accept a spoon-fed conclusion from the likes of Dan Rather, I have to spend the time myself to view things critically, everything. That is what I have to do to stay informed without watching CBS or reading the Boston Globe. It is MY responsibility to do so, and I take it seriously.

It is one of the reasons I donate a monthy to FR, and when the money-raising is lax, I will kick in more. And then more.

Because, the truth is, there are all types on here. Some are sharp, some aren’t. Some are lazy, some aren’t. But we help each other view the issues of the day, and this issue is one of them.

I didn’t jump into a thread, read it and jump on the wagon. I have spent the better part of two years remaining impartial about certain issues as this forgery and viewing them on my own, coming to my own conclusions.

You either don’t think it is a forgery, or you don’t think that if it is, that it is important.

May I ask which it is?


145 posted on 04/23/2012 3:00:33 PM PDT by rlmorel (A knife in the chest from a unapologetic liberal is preferable to a knife in the back from a RINO.)
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