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To: Anitius Severinus Boethius; C. Edmund Wright; Jacquerie; Publius; All
Upon reflection, this discussion is an extremely important one for all conservatives to have today. Does not the "limited government" our Constitution was intended to secure rely on the very idea of "virtue," as articulated by the Founders?

We must not naively trust "parchment barriers" (Madison) as our limits on those we elect. That is why we check their records, their associations, their lives, as indicators of the likelihood that they will exhibit fidelity to the Constitution's limitations. In other words, we want to know that they will be "virtuous" protectors of "the People's" Constitution.

186 posted on 04/23/2012 11:33:29 AM PDT by loveliberty2
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To: loveliberty2

See 188 AND 139 - and get a clue about the conversation, and get off your high horse.


222 posted on 04/23/2012 12:35:22 PM PDT by C. Edmund Wright
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To: loveliberty2; Suz in AZ; Houghton M.; Talisker; aruanan; jimfree
Isn’t it a shame that you all are about the only ones on this thread to “get it?” It appears John Dewey and the Progressives more than achieved their goals.

I sat up and listened intently when Mary started the show with virtue as the topic. It is something I would expect to hear on Mark Levin’s show, not Rush’s. I was only able to listen to the first few minutes, but gathered the gist.

As luck would have it, I’ve been reading Gordon S. Wood’s 1969 classic, Creation of the American Republic. The quotes below are his. He isn’t alone of course. The Constitutional Convention, Federalist Papers, Anti-Federalist Papers . . . all touched on the value of virtue.

“The very greatness of republicanism, its utter dependence on the people, was simultaneously its source of weakness. In a republic, each man must somehow be persuaded to submerge his personal wants into the greater good of the whole. This was termed “public virtue.” A republic was such a delicate polity precisely because it demanded an extraordinary moral character in the people. Every state in which the people participated needed a degree of virtue; but a republic which rested solely on the people absolutely required it. “

“Without some portion of this generous principle, anarchy and confusion would immediately ensue, the jarring interests of individuals, regarding themselves only, and indifferent to the welfare of others . . . would end in ruin and subversion of the State.”

In less eloquent terms, a people that sends enough Sheila Jackson-Lees to Congress cannot expect to keep a government designed by the likes of James Madison and Benjamin Franklin.

256 posted on 04/23/2012 4:19:06 PM PDT by Jacquerie (No court will save us from ourselves.)
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