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Obama EPA Rushes to Impose New Ethanol Mandate
breitbart.com/Big-Government ^ | 4/25/12 | Jeff Steir

Posted on 04/25/2012 4:30:55 PM PDT by ColdOne

Oral arguments began last week on another controversial Obama Administration policy. It's not Obamacare in the Supreme Court, but the outcome will affect a major sector of the economy: energy. In particular, the fuel most Americans use daily.

At issue is the administration's continued abuse of science at the agency level in an effort to dictate what type of energy we use.

The Environmental Protection Agency has fast-tracked the approval of a 50 percent increase in the amount of ethanol that can be mixed into the fuels we use in our cars and other engine-run vehicles, such as boats and snowmobiles. There's nothing necessarily wrong with such a major increase in ethanol, (from 10% to 15% total,) but the law requires and common sense dictates that the EPA test the new fuel mix in all engines in which it would be used, to make sure it works properly and doesn't damage the engines. The lawsuit alleges that EPA failed to properly do so in approving use of so called E15 fuel.

For example the EPA only evaluated E15's impact on automobiles' emissions systems, rather than how it affects the entire car, "bumper to bumper," as Charles Drevna, President of the National Petrochemical and Refiners Association, a lead plaintiff, put it in a recent interview with the trade publication Energy and Environment News.

Perhaps even more troubling, according to Drevna, is that the EPA's "testing didn't come in until the day before they announced, or they published the regulation." There's simply no way the testing could have been fully considered (as required by law) in the next day's rule-making, not even if the bureaucrats stayed up all night before filing the paperwork.

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1 posted on 04/25/2012 4:31:01 PM PDT by ColdOne
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To: ColdOne
the EPA only evaluated E15's impact on automobiles' emissions systems, rather than how it affects the entire car

Y'know, like the mileage which is 3 or 4 mpg less than pure gasoline. That increases the punishment for wanting independent travel.

2 posted on 04/25/2012 4:36:02 PM PDT by BfloGuy (The final outcome of the credit expansion is general impoverishment.)
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To: ColdOne

Ethanol bad
Butanol good


3 posted on 04/25/2012 4:37:27 PM PDT by taxcontrol
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To: ColdOne
E15 fuel dissolves rubber gaskets and seals and has been responsible for damaging and destroying thousands, if not millions, of pieces of home equipment like weed eaters and chain saws.

NO THANKS!

4 posted on 04/25/2012 4:42:11 PM PDT by Timber Rattler (Just say NO! to RINOS and the GOP-E)
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To: Timber Rattler

Where has this been happening? I didn’t know E15 was even available yet.


5 posted on 04/25/2012 4:43:52 PM PDT by nascarnation
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To: ColdOne

If they’re rushing this through, then maybe it’s a good sign that they’re scared of losing their jobs right around January 20, 2013.


6 posted on 04/25/2012 4:44:18 PM PDT by ChocChipCookie
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To: BfloGuy
Y'know, like the mileage which is 3 or 4 mpg less than pure gasoline.

For awhile, a couple of years ago, I could still find real gasoline..My mileage was about 33 mpg in my vehicle. Now, with ethanol in all the gas around here, My mileage is about 28 or 29 mpg.

Ethanol sucks.

7 posted on 04/25/2012 4:45:23 PM PDT by sockmonkey
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To: ColdOne
Most street bikes have high compression engines that require 91 octane fuel. The 15% ethanol crap is going to destroy those engines. We need to fire those incompetent, agenda driven jackasses now.
8 posted on 04/25/2012 4:57:53 PM PDT by Myrddin
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To: ChocChipCookie

“If they’re rushing this through, then maybe it’s a good sign that they’re scared of losing their jobs right around January 20, 2013.”

What makes you say that? If Obamney wins, nothing will change. He is just like Zero and loves Ethanol. They won’t lose their jobs no matter who wins.


9 posted on 04/25/2012 4:57:59 PM PDT by CapnJack
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To: ColdOne

It makes me wonder why Con-gress isn’t putting the brakes on EPA and other BS bureaucracies that think they have the right to impose regulations on the country.


10 posted on 04/25/2012 5:01:42 PM PDT by Sarajevo ( Alcohol does not solve any problems, but then again, neither does milk.)
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To: ColdOne

There is a gas station 18 miles from us on an Indian reservation that sells ethanol free fuel. Nice casino, too.
(western WA)


11 posted on 04/25/2012 5:01:51 PM PDT by dainbramaged (OMG - Obama Must Go)
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To: ColdOne

we are entering the Pol Pot zone where you screw your *subjects* because you can and because your brain is deformed


12 posted on 04/25/2012 5:02:15 PM PDT by dennisw
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To: ColdOne

Ethanol should be reserved to be consumed internally.


13 posted on 04/25/2012 5:02:20 PM PDT by Paladin2
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To: sockmonkey

http://pure-gas.org/index.jsp


14 posted on 04/25/2012 5:08:36 PM PDT by nascarnation
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To: ColdOne
Ethanol is fine in cars that are specifically designed for it. E85 cars can use a 15% gas / 85% ethanol blend. And since we can create ethanol from our abundant coal and natural gas, we already have the technology to become energy independent in motor fuels for many decades.

Toying with E15 with current cars not designed for it is a stupid idea.

15 posted on 04/25/2012 5:13:53 PM PDT by Vince Ferrer
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To: Timber Rattler

Your two stroke engine IS the target.


16 posted on 04/25/2012 5:16:02 PM PDT by Ouderkirk (Democrats...the party of Slavery, Segregation, Sodomy, and Sedition)
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To: nascarnation

Looking at that link, it looks as if all these ethanol free gas stations ( in AZ) are on Indian reservations.


17 posted on 04/25/2012 5:16:28 PM PDT by Irish Eyes
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To: Timber Rattler

Zero’s Administration is like that Lost in Space Robot programmed to destroy all the critical systems in their spaceship. We are headed for a helluva crash landing if we dont get the posers out of DC.


18 posted on 04/25/2012 5:16:44 PM PDT by Gasshog (going to get what all those libs asked for, but its not what they expected.)
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To: Irish Eyes

Don’t have any near my home, the ones I’ve seen on vacation (South Carolina) charge considerably more per gallon vs. E10.


19 posted on 04/25/2012 5:21:52 PM PDT by nascarnation
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To: BfloGuy

FYI — an idea now gaining traction is moving to E30 or higher. Once in that range, the higher octane boost more than compensates for the lower energy density and the ethanol mileage drag disappears, provided your car is properly tuned. I’m told the automakers are beginning to take a serious look at this because it’s another viable pathway to meeting future mileage requirements. Apparently there’s growing concern that battery limitations will keep electrics from doing the job.


20 posted on 04/25/2012 5:28:14 PM PDT by sphinx
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To: ColdOne

Go p**s up a rope, EPA. That would now be 15% ethanol that provides me with less energy than gasoline.


21 posted on 04/25/2012 5:32:24 PM PDT by citizen (Obama blames:arab spring,banks,big oil,bush,ceos,christians,coal,FNC,Jpn tsumani,T Party,wall st,you)
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To: Timber Rattler
responsible for damaging and destroying thousands, if not millions, of pieces of home equipment

That's the plan.

22 posted on 04/25/2012 5:39:39 PM PDT by Right Wing Assault (Dick Obama is more inexperienced now than he was before he was elected.)
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To: ColdOne
and America takes another one in the........

23 posted on 04/25/2012 5:45:42 PM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: BfloGuy
Y'know, like the mileage which is 3 or 4 mpg less than pure gasoline

That's exactly correct. We drove my wife's 2009 Honda Oddyssey minivan to her parent's home in Michigan's Upper Penninsula. Filled up @ home with the 10% ethanol crap that you can't avoid buying here in the People's Socialist RepubliK of Illinois.

Got 24mpg on the trip up keeping the vehicle under 70mph and on cruise control.

On the way home, we stopped at the ONE GAS STATION in Menominee, Michigan that sold PURE GAS. NO ETHANOL. Drove home into a 25-30mph HEADWIND coming up from the South, and still managed to get (drum roll.....) 27.5 MPG on the way home. Kept the vehicle under 70mph and on cruise control.

Any bets I could've gotten another mile or two on the mpg without the headwind? I bet I could've.

The more ethanol they put in the gas, the less MPG we get, and the more Gas we have to buy. Only the dumbasses in Government Central Planning would make such a stupid decision.

24 posted on 04/25/2012 5:56:30 PM PDT by usconservative (When The Ballot Box No Longer Counts, The Ammunition Box Does. (What's In Your Ammo Box?))
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To: Myrddin

I have a better idea, how about just locking them in garages with the engines running for a few hours. Should do the job.


25 posted on 04/25/2012 6:04:47 PM PDT by Mouton (Voting is an opiate of the electorate. Nothing changes no matter who wins..)
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To: Mouton

Related article: EPA Official’s ‘Philosophy’ On Oil Companies: ‘Crucify Them’ - Just As Romans Crucified Conquered Citizens
http://cnsnews.com/blog/craig-bannister/epa-officials-philosophy-oil-companies-crucify-them-just-romans-crucified


26 posted on 04/25/2012 6:20:25 PM PDT by citizen (Obama blames:arab spring,banks,big oil,bush,ceos,christians,coal,FNC,Jpn tsumani,T Party,wall st,you)
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To: Mouton
I have a better idea, how about just locking them in garages with the engines running for a few hours. Should do the job.

As long as you agree to personally supervise the activity from inside the garage. I'll even toss in a nice big fan to keep the engines properly cooled.

27 posted on 04/25/2012 7:07:36 PM PDT by Myrddin
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To: Sarajevo

That was explained by our representative in a recent town hall meeting. The House has tried to cut the EPA’s budget to prevent some of the boarding house reach. When the Senate does nothing, the bureacracy gets funded at their previous levels.


28 posted on 04/25/2012 7:41:23 PM PDT by meatloaf (Support House Bill 1380 to eliminate oil slavery.)
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To: ColdOne

corn futures leap,, poor mexicans frown..


29 posted on 04/25/2012 9:45:04 PM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi)
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To: sockmonkey
For awhile, a couple of years ago, I could still find real gasoline.

Me, too. I bought a used F250 4.6L two years ago when gas was right around $2.00 here in NYS. Used to get non-ethanol at Kwik-Fill and could get 22mpg on the highway.

That was economical enough for me.

Now, I have to buy the ethanol-adulterated crap, I get 17 mpg, and the price has doubled! That's just my puny story -- imagine trying to run a business in an environment where it's impossible to do basic economic calculation.

30 posted on 04/26/2012 3:20:11 PM PDT by BfloGuy (The final outcome of the credit expansion is general impoverishment.)
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