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To: Kenny Bunk
Our system was not set up as a party system. In fact, George Washington spoke out strongly against such a thing - as he was going out the door, as a final warning to the country he loved.

"I have already intimated to you the danger of parties in the state, with particular reference to the founding of them on geographical discriminations. Let me now take a more comprehensive view, and warn you in the most solemn manner against the baneful effects of the spirit of party, generally.

This spirit, unfortunately, is inseparable from our nature, having its root in the strongest passions of the human mind. It exists under different shapes in all governments, more or less stifled, controlled, or repressed; but, in those of the popular form, it is seen in its greatest rankness, and is truly their worst enemy.

The alternate domination of one faction over another, sharpened by the spirit of revenge, natural to party dissension, which in different ages and countries has perpetrated the most horrid enormities, is itself a frightful despotism. But this leads at length to a more formal and permanent despotism. The disorders and miseries, which result, gradually incline the minds of men to seek security and repose in the absolute power of an individual; and sooner or later the chief of some prevailing faction, more able or more fortunate than his competitors, turns this disposition to the purposes of his own elevation, on the ruins of Public Liberty.

Without looking forward to an extremity of this kind, (which nevertheless ought not to be entirely out of sight,) the common and continual mischiefs of the spirit of party are sufficient to make it the interest and duty of a wise people to discourage and restrain it.

It serves always to distract the Public Councils, and enfeeble the Public Administration. It agitates the Community with ill-founded jealousies and false alarms; kindles the animosity of one part against another, foments occasionally riot and insurrection. It opens the door to foreign influence and corruption, which find a facilitated access to the government itself through the channels of party passions. Thus the policy and the will of one country are subjected to the policy and will of another.

There is an opinion, that parties in free countries are useful checks upon the administration of the Government, and serve to keep alive the spirit of Liberty. This within certain limits is probably true; and in Governments of a Monarchical cast, Patriotism may look with indulgence, if not with favor, upon the spirit of party. But in those of the popular character, in Governments purely elective, it is a spirit not to be encouraged. From their natural tendency, it is certain there will always be enough of that spirit for every salutary purpose. And, there being constant danger of excess, the effort ought to be, by force of public opinion, to mitigate and assuage it. A fire not to be quenched, it demands a uniform vigilance to prevent its bursting into a flame, lest, instead of warming, it should consume."


196 posted on 04/27/2012 2:09:34 PM PDT by EternalVigilance (Romney Republicanism. Even Jimmy Carter can be comfortable with it.)
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To: EternalVigilance
Our system was not set up as a party system. In fact, George Washington spoke out strongly against such a thing - as he was going out the door, as a final warning to the country he loved.

This of course, has become a truism; a cliché. No matter what Washington said then, we live in a Two-Party System now, and indeed have since 1860 and earlier. How do you propose to end it?

The "independent" voters have been chanting the mantra for years. "I vote for the man, not the party!" Of course, those who are elected by taking the "independent" vote immediately join with, support, and vote with a political party ... usually the Democrat Party!

Washington's Constitution has been amended. For instance the runner-up in national elections no longer becomes VP. Senators are popularly elected (One of the great tragedies of the Constitutional History of the country, IMNSVHO)

I think also that it is too easy for the anti-Obama camps to merely tell us how bad Obama is, w/o offering their own tactical PROGRAM, and the PLAN to IMPLEMENT IT, and the LEADERSHIP necessary to get agreement to it. This is true of EVERY candidate so far, and you are no exception.

So, while I may agree with your ideological platform, I find it far from pragmatic. You are nobly seeking Leadership by offering systemic reform in one election. But the first challenge is getting elected without a Program and Plan. In fact, this is one election removed from the 53% victory of the Democrats with Obama, and they still hold the Senate.

250 posted on 04/28/2012 5:14:27 AM PDT by Kenny Bunk (So, Scalia, Alito, Thomas, and Roberts can't figure out if Obama is a Natural Born Citizen?)
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