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Glenn Beck, National Decline And The Story Of The Roman Empire
Townhall.com ^ | April 28, 2012 | Jerry Bowyer

Posted on 04/28/2012 8:08:07 AM PDT by Kaslin

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To: greyfoxx39

Well, I have only seen one episode of the Oval and it is odd, to say the least.

As for Romney, I heard Beck support Santorum and shrug about his expectations for Romney. And, to be honest, endorsements mean little to me. I don’t have any enthusiasm for Romney, but he isn’t Obama, he isn’t a Marxist, he isn’t out to subjugate the USA to the Muslim and totalitarian world. I will vote ABO.

Code words, white horses, prophecies: I really don’t care. I hear people all the time saying that there are code words and prophecies belonging to the Christians or the Jews and then using that to denigrate political candidates. I have read about Mormonism. It isn’t anything I believe in, but I have seen Mormons IRL and they are good, stable people, for the most part.

The culture is not dependent upon Beck or Romney. It might be less malignant if it were. It is epitomized by the present administration and the media and anything that undermines or at least blocks them is a better choice, at least for now.


41 posted on 04/28/2012 11:21:05 AM PDT by reformedliberal
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To: GBA

Yep, his predictions are coming to fruition. I never heard him say that they would happen tomorrow. He keeps saying prepare... It’s amazing how people fail to comprehend and understand the English language—must be that fine government education, so when does dumbing down just go to stupid?


42 posted on 04/28/2012 12:12:34 PM PDT by foundedonpurpose (Be strong in truth!)
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To: Kaslin

Dont kid yourself. Be prepared no matter what. Rome didn’t have satellite dependency, electricity dependency, oil dependency, digital money, digital voting, EPA, wmd’s, emp’s, suitcase nukes, weaponized viruses, muslim jihadists, Nancy pelosi, spook presidents, fake mass media etc etc.


43 posted on 04/28/2012 2:09:00 PM PDT by rwoodward ("god, guns and more ammo")
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To: Kaslin

Rome could have collapsed in one second if the barbarians had nuclear weapons.


44 posted on 04/28/2012 2:34:50 PM PDT by justa-hairyape
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To: Mamzelle

I was quoting from the article.


45 posted on 04/28/2012 2:48:49 PM PDT by svcw (If one living cell on another planet is life, why isn't it life in the womb?)
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To: SuzyQue

We aren’t an Empire, yet. We still have an elected form of government. But each year we get closer and closer to the final end of the Republic.


46 posted on 04/28/2012 4:10:18 PM PDT by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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To: Joe 6-pack

It started well before that. All they way to the founding of the country. Read deeply, and of all sides. The warnings of the philosphers of the 18th century have beome the reality of today.


47 posted on 04/28/2012 4:16:24 PM PDT by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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To: Kaslin

So what Jesus was saying is that I owe taxes to George Washington, Andrew Jacskon, and Thomas Jefferson. Right?


48 posted on 04/28/2012 4:19:57 PM PDT by Lurker (The avalanche has begun. The pebbles no longer have a vote.)
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To: Kaslin

The Roman coinage went up occasionally. Emperor Domitian debased it more than usual, then complained that prices were raised to compensate. Emperor Jovian (the last pagan emperor) issued a new coin with more silver, and the empire responded wonderfully. A friend of mine reminded me that the world grades on a curve. We don’t have to have a perfect money, but just better than the alternatives. We have a chance to take over the world again, through an orgasm of good government. I look forward to a growth moment like the US post reconstruction and before Teddy Roosevelt.


49 posted on 04/28/2012 5:38:23 PM PDT by donmeaker (Blunderbuss: A short weapon, ... now superceded in civilized countries by more advanced weaponry.)
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To: PGR88
Interesting chart, no doubt acquired by nondestructive assay methods on sample coins.

Some of the data points are interesting in that the persons tied to them were ephemeral, like Didius Julianus, who "ruled" as "emperor" for three short months after the infamous forced "sale of the Empire" by the Praetorian Guards. Julianus himself was done away with, and the Guards subjected to military punishment of some sort, on the arrival of Septimius Severus and the armies of the East.

Elagabalus was a Severan transvestite homosexual who shocked Roman sensibilities when he arrived from Syria (Septimius Severus had aquired family contacts and a wife when he commanded in the East; he himself was Punic, from Leptis Magna in North Africa, and had a Semitic accent, as did all Carthaginians and other overseas Phoenicians). He was one of the later Severans and singularly lackluster as a ruler. He built a huge temple in the Forum whose foundations remain today. Philippus "the Arab" was known for two things: being a poisoner (how he came to power) and for celebrating the huge games of Rome's millennium.

Pupienus and Balbinus were mayfly dual emperors -- their duality modeled on the consulate, and prefiguring the later division of the Empire -- imbued with power by the Senate for the purpose of disposing of the tyrannical Thracian (or German) giant and military emperor Maximinus Thrax, whom they besieged in the city of Aquileia (near Venice) until Maximinus's own troops killed him.

Valerian ended his life in Persian captivity; the Persian Great King Shapur I used him, in full imperial regalia, as an equestrian footstool until Valerian died of abuse and exposure to the elements. Shapur then had Valerian's corpse stuffed (why does this sound familiar?), dressed in his garments and armor, and displayed with his imperial emblems in Shapur's family fire-temple. It was after this disaster that Valerian's son Gallienus substantially reorganized the Roman army from an infantry to a heavy-cavalry (cataphractary) army with a large, mobile field force, the pattern of the next 200 years followed by, among others, the sub-Roman Briton chieftain, Arthur, and for even longer under the Byzantine Empire.

Claudius II Gothicus was emperor for two years until killed by his troops -- a common occurrence. But he is numbered among the "good" military emperors.

50 posted on 04/28/2012 7:22:23 PM PDT by lentulusgracchus
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To: lentulusgracchus

I don’t know who created the chart, but I found it very interesting. It was part of an article about how Roman “money printing,” to cover the cost of their hugely complex Empire eventually created serfdom in Europe. I have been trying to find more information on this.

Perhaps they chose the Emperors they did specifically because they were weak, corrupt and ineffectual?


51 posted on 04/29/2012 9:07:22 PM PDT by PGR88
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